Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument 11:58 - Dec 6 with 9083 views | Hogger | Many of us have had enough contact with certain Millwall fans to know that it's no coincidence they are booing an anti-racist gesture. But some argue that this is about freedom of expression. If you're tempted by that argument please go on Twitter, look at the pages of those using that as a justification for booing. Almost to a man (yup, 95% male) they are Tommy/Farage/Trump fans. Most deny covid too but that's another story... [Post edited 6 Dec 2020 11:58]
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 14:08 - Dec 6 with 2404 views | noggin |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 13:31 - Dec 6 by stewartm | What has that got to do with you? but politics in football does not mix and the booing WILL continue and lets see what snowflakes make of that.... |
What politics are you talking about? Is there political debate as to whether black lives matter or not? | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 14:08 - Dec 6 with 2403 views | factual_blue |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 13:31 - Dec 6 by stewartm | What has that got to do with you? but politics in football does not mix and the booing WILL continue and lets see what snowflakes make of that.... |
Booing the kneeling is, of course, a political statement. | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 14:12 - Dec 6 with 2389 views | leitrimblue |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 13:28 - Dec 6 by stewartm | I remember when this happened https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/fifa-poppy-ban-englan .There is no place for politics in football! Clinton Morrison even said on TV "all lives matter" but to have this total bollox of players down on their knees in support of a 'political' movement is bollox and if the snowflakes do not want trouble because the booing will not stop then the snowflakes need to f,ck off out of football! I do not agree with racism in any form but this kneeling cr.p needs to be removed from football, to do it to show solidarity to anti racism is fine but week in week out for black lives matter? you and all that agree are asking for serious civil strife!! [Post edited 6 Dec 2020 13:29]
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Will you be booing when her allowed back into Portman Road Stu? | | | |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 15:38 - Dec 6 with 2311 views | monytowbray |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 13:31 - Dec 6 by stewartm | What has that got to do with you? but politics in football does not mix and the booing WILL continue and lets see what snowflakes make of that.... |
Oh watch out, the Gammon keyboard warriors are going to BOO us! Oh the humanity! I’m bricking it. | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 15:40 - Dec 6 with 2307 views | wkj | Lets play a game of spot the banned poster... any guesses? | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 15:42 - Dec 6 with 2301 views | monytowbray |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 13:53 - Dec 6 by stewartm | I clapped for the NHS and I support any anti racist support group (my family fought fascists during the war) and I do not consider myself racist and married a mixed raced beautiful woman (I have been happily married for over 25 years) but this week in week out, in support in sport of what has evolved into a very questionable political movement is unacceptable! [Post edited 6 Dec 2020 13:54]
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“I support any anti-racist movement.” *Players take knee* “NO, NOT THAT KIND OF ANTI RACIST MOVEMENT 😡😡😡” Do you see the disconnect yet? | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 15:45 - Dec 6 with 2291 views | jeera |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 15:42 - Dec 6 by monytowbray | “I support any anti-racist movement.” *Players take knee* “NO, NOT THAT KIND OF ANTI RACIST MOVEMENT 😡😡😡” Do you see the disconnect yet? |
I think it was quite clear from his posting on the other thread that he is lying. As for the war reference, doesn't that pretty much go for every single family in the country (and beyond)? [Post edited 6 Dec 2020 15:48]
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 15:47 - Dec 6 with 2285 views | monytowbray |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 15:45 - Dec 6 by jeera | I think it was quite clear from his posting on the other thread that he is lying. As for the war reference, doesn't that pretty much go for every single family in the country (and beyond)? [Post edited 6 Dec 2020 15:48]
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Troll farm poster or banned poster for sure. I always wonder where our boards most prominent “anti-racist” posters go for these threads when “Corbyn” isn’t in the Subject line though. | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 16:03 - Dec 6 with 2275 views | Dyland |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 13:35 - Dec 6 by stewartm | I tell you what is going to happen, fans will boo because we will not be forced onto our knee for a political movement in sport! And as fpr the comment of 'you are racist if you do not bend the knee' that is more of a facist statement really? [Post edited 6 Dec 2020 13:37]
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You aren't being forced to kneel you silly twit. How it bothers anyone is beyond me. What's wrong with taking a stand (or knee) in solidarity against racism? The only reason it's even called a 'political movement' is because the legitimasation of racism that's occurred in the last five years. That's sad, because whilst it is to an extent a political movement it should in my mind be something everyone is in favour of regardless of how you vote. The fact it isn't shows the fight was never really won by the Civil Rights Movement and still continues. | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 16:49 - Dec 6 with 2228 views | J2BLUE |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 13:31 - Dec 6 by stewartm | What has that got to do with you? but politics in football does not mix and the booing WILL continue and lets see what snowflakes make of that.... |
We probably won't be able to hear you as most people will be showing their support. I assume you'd be perfectly happy if BLM references were removed and they just kneeled for equality? | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:10 - Dec 6 with 2209 views | leitrimblue |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 13:31 - Dec 6 by stewartm | What has that got to do with you? but politics in football does not mix and the booing WILL continue and lets see what snowflakes make of that.... |
Don't just boo Stu. (or anyone else considering similar action) If your really not happy you should jump up an down an wave your arms around a bit as well. Would be much appreciated | | | |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:14 - Dec 6 with 2198 views | jeera |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:10 - Dec 6 by leitrimblue | Don't just boo Stu. (or anyone else considering similar action) If your really not happy you should jump up an down an wave your arms around a bit as well. Would be much appreciated |
Especially if it's a cold day, it would be a good way to keep warm. The bloke's gone anyway from here, and hopefully would be in a tiny minority of specialised pricks. | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:21 - Dec 6 with 2193 views | vapour_trail |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 13:54 - Dec 6 by 26_Paz | I would agree it is probably time it ended |
Why? It’s been instigated by the footballers, following a conversation on a WhatsApp group of PL captains. They recognise they have a platform and want to use it. So why is it probably time it ended? | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:26 - Dec 6 with 2184 views | leitrimblue |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:14 - Dec 6 by jeera | Especially if it's a cold day, it would be a good way to keep warm. The bloke's gone anyway from here, and hopefully would be in a tiny minority of specialised pricks. |
I'd be surprised if anyone would boo at Portman Road. Though will be a great way of identifying pricks | | | |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:31 - Dec 6 with 2176 views | jeera |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:21 - Dec 6 by vapour_trail | Why? It’s been instigated by the footballers, following a conversation on a WhatsApp group of PL captains. They recognise they have a platform and want to use it. So why is it probably time it ended? |
Did you see matey's thread earlier [before it was removed] complaining about the whole BLM thing, as well as footballers kneeling? It was actually him saying he would boo players kneeling with pride and to emphasise the point he posted an England flag to accompany the sentiment. Like in some way the England flag is anti black people. That was certainly the context. Our friend Paz there was all about defending his right to do so. Just saying. Paz is not some victim, he holds some very unpleasant views but just holds back enough... [Post edited 6 Dec 2020 19:15]
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:31 - Dec 6 with 2174 views | vapour_trail |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:14 - Dec 6 by jeera | Especially if it's a cold day, it would be a good way to keep warm. The bloke's gone anyway from here, and hopefully would be in a tiny minority of specialised pricks. |
Why’s he gone? | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:33 - Dec 6 with 2167 views | jeera |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:31 - Dec 6 by vapour_trail | Why’s he gone? |
If you missed it I have sort of replied to that in the post above. Assuming you're not one of those thread views heathen types. | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:34 - Dec 6 with 2152 views | 26_Paz |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:21 - Dec 6 by vapour_trail | Why? It’s been instigated by the footballers, following a conversation on a WhatsApp group of PL captains. They recognise they have a platform and want to use it. So why is it probably time it ended? |
As I’ve said I don’t disagree with the sentiment but like clapping the NHS it does have a shelf life. | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:37 - Dec 6 with 2144 views | 26_Paz |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:31 - Dec 6 by jeera | Did you see matey's thread earlier [before it was removed] complaining about the whole BLM thing, as well as footballers kneeling? It was actually him saying he would boo players kneeling with pride and to emphasise the point he posted an England flag to accompany the sentiment. Like in some way the England flag is anti black people. That was certainly the context. Our friend Paz there was all about defending his right to do so. Just saying. Paz is not some victim, he holds some very unpleasant views but just holds back enough... [Post edited 6 Dec 2020 19:15]
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I was not defending his right to boo taking the knee. That is not what I said at all, as you know. Another poster had put some words into his mouth, which was completely unnecessary as the words he put in his own mouth was enough to get him banned. I merely said that the other poster (I can’t remember who it was) should’t put words in his mouth. I made absolutely no comment on his right to boo taking the knee. | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:45 - Dec 6 with 2136 views | vapour_trail |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:34 - Dec 6 by 26_Paz | As I’ve said I don’t disagree with the sentiment but like clapping the NHS it does have a shelf life. |
That’s not up to you or I, it’s down to the people taking the action. I wouldn’t think it’d end in the middle of a season. It might continue in perpetuity. It’s a good gesture, and particularly relevant at football grounds, as we know that audience have been targeted by people on the wrong side of this debate who seek to stoke racial division. | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 18:04 - Dec 6 with 2115 views | monytowbray |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:10 - Dec 6 by leitrimblue | Don't just boo Stu. (or anyone else considering similar action) If your really not happy you should jump up an down an wave your arms around a bit as well. Would be much appreciated |
Run on the pitch, that’ll sort it. In fact I actively encourage it. Go on, stick it to those cultural marxist b*stards. We’ll all cheer you on. | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 18:36 - Dec 6 with 2075 views | NewcyBlue |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 15:47 - Dec 6 by monytowbray | Troll farm poster or banned poster for sure. I always wonder where our boards most prominent “anti-racist” posters go for these threads when “Corbyn” isn’t in the Subject line though. |
There was a deleted thread. | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 18:42 - Dec 6 with 2072 views | monytowbray |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 17:34 - Dec 6 by 26_Paz | As I’ve said I don’t disagree with the sentiment but like clapping the NHS it does have a shelf life. |
Clapping the NHS whilst supporting the Tories? Why not stick the Vs up at nurses and doctors instead? Much easier and those who actually support the idea of paying essential workers properly don’t have to be dragged along into such virtue signalling. | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 18:47 - Dec 6 with 2051 views | 26_Paz |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 18:42 - Dec 6 by monytowbray | Clapping the NHS whilst supporting the Tories? Why not stick the Vs up at nurses and doctors instead? Much easier and those who actually support the idea of paying essential workers properly don’t have to be dragged along into such virtue signalling. |
What? | |
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Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 18:54 - Dec 6 with 2041 views | monytowbray |
Boo boys: don't be fooled by the freedom of speech argument on 18:47 - Dec 6 by 26_Paz | What? |
Clapping is an empty gesture. | |
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