| Well done TWTD 22:14 - Oct 29 with 11327 views | Dyland |
It was written in the stars that Hurst would turn out to be a spectacular failure, be fired, and we could then have a mass debate about who was worse, Keane, Jewell or Hurst.
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| Well done TWTD on 22:17 - Oct 29 with 6377 views | PJH |
Well at least that makes it a three way race.
I don't think there can be a definitive answer until we know exactly how much damage Hurst did and that may not be until next May. |  | | |
| Well done TWTD on 22:18 - Oct 29 with 6366 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Well done TWTD on 22:17 - Oct 29 by PJH |
Well at least that makes it a three way race.
I don't think there can be a definitive answer until we know exactly how much damage Hurst did and that may not be until next May. |
It’s clearly Hurst.
At least Keane & Jewell provided us some good players & decent runs of form. |  |
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| Well done TWTD on 22:20 - Oct 29 with 6352 views | Dubtractor |
| Well done TWTD on 22:18 - Oct 29 by Reuser_is_God |
It’s clearly Hurst.
At least Keane & Jewell provided us some good players & decent runs of form. |
Yep, Hurst has at least saved any further debate on the Keane vs Jewell theme by inexplicably being worse than either of them.
Miles worse.
Utter disaster. |  |
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| Well done TWTD on 22:20 - Oct 29 with 6353 views | J2BLUE |
After the excitement of the summer when we got a young manager who was scouring the lower leagues there's now plenty of people sticking the boot into Evans for getting it wrong. It's a joke. Then they wonder why Evans won't put millions in to satisfy their 'ambition'. Cretins. |  |
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| Well done TWTD on 22:22 - Oct 29 with 6331 views | PJH |
| Well done TWTD on 22:18 - Oct 29 by Reuser_is_God |
It’s clearly Hurst.
At least Keane & Jewell provided us some good players & decent runs of form. |
My vote goes to Hurst too but if we do survive this season the damage that he did might not be as long term as that done by Keane and Jewell. | | | |
| Well done TWTD on 22:26 - Oct 29 with 6289 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Well done TWTD on 22:22 - Oct 29 by PJH |
My vote goes to Hurst too but if we do survive this season the damage that he did might not be as long term as that done by Keane and Jewell. |
It that’s only because he was SO bad that he had to be sacked so soon.
Get your point though. | |
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| totes, same old innit (n/t) on 22:27 - Oct 29 with 6282 views | Dyland |
| Well done TWTD on 22:20 - Oct 29 by J2BLUE |
After the excitement of the summer when we got a young manager who was scouring the lower leagues there's now plenty of people sticking the boot into Evans for getting it wrong. It's a joke. Then they wonder why Evans won't put millions in to satisfy their 'ambition'. Cretins. |
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| Well done TWTD on 22:27 - Oct 29 with 6282 views | Guthrum |
| Well done TWTD on 22:18 - Oct 29 by Reuser_is_God |
It’s clearly Hurst.
At least Keane & Jewell provided us some good players & decent runs of form. |
Hurst may yet turn out to have hired some decent players. But in overall terms, he probably is still the worst of those three. |  |
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| Well done TWTD on 23:05 - Oct 29 with 6136 views | factual_blue |
| Well done TWTD on 22:20 - Oct 29 by J2BLUE |
After the excitement of the summer when we got a young manager who was scouring the lower leagues there's now plenty of people sticking the boot into Evans for getting it wrong. It's a joke. Then they wonder why Evans won't put millions in to satisfy their 'ambition'. Cretins. |
'BCWYWF' |  |
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| Well done TWTD on 23:14 - Oct 29 with 6113 views | Pinewoodblue |
Just need Lambert to sign a striker who is better than Counago and Kuqi. |  |
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| Well done TWTD on 08:00 - Oct 30 with 5835 views | solemio |
No mass debating on here please. |  | | |
| Well done TWTD on 08:05 - Oct 30 with 5813 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Well done TWTD on 22:17 - Oct 29 by PJH |
Well at least that makes it a three way race.
I don't think there can be a definitive answer until we know exactly how much damage Hurst did and that may not be until next May. |
No, it’s Hurst |  |
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| Well done TWTD on 08:07 - Oct 30 with 5803 views | wkj |
Without a shadow of a doubt, it is Hurst. I have no doubt he can be a great manager, but he learnt (at our expense) To be great, one must learn the changes and adapt their solutions- rather than solve bigger problems with the same solutions. |  |
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| Well done TWTD on 08:09 - Oct 30 with 5795 views | Currie10 |
Keane x Jewell = Hurst |  | | |
| Well done TWTD on 08:18 - Oct 30 with 5780 views | OsborneOneNil |
Football is a funny ol game though. I’m convinced that if we’d had a timely slice of good fortune at Rotherham, scored during our good start at Exeter, pinched a deserved win with 10 men at home to Villa, scored a second when 1-0 up and on top against Norwich, held on at Brum....we could/would be lookin at a totally different situation with Hurst as our manager.
He took a massive punt on wholesale changes, and the squad needed some early wins to get the belief. We didn’t, and it went south due to that. |  | | |
| Well done TWTD on 08:39 - Oct 30 with 5720 views | BackToRussia |
| Well done TWTD on 08:18 - Oct 30 by OsborneOneNil |
Football is a funny ol game though. I’m convinced that if we’d had a timely slice of good fortune at Rotherham, scored during our good start at Exeter, pinched a deserved win with 10 men at home to Villa, scored a second when 1-0 up and on top against Norwich, held on at Brum....we could/would be lookin at a totally different situation with Hurst as our manager.
He took a massive punt on wholesale changes, and the squad needed some early wins to get the belief. We didn’t, and it went south due to that. |
That's what Klug said, and apparently Hurst completely ignored Klug, so if anyone had an axe to grind it'd be him |  |
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| Well done TWTD on 08:45 - Oct 30 with 5700 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Well done TWTD on 08:39 - Oct 30 by BackToRussia |
That's what Klug said, and apparently Hurst completely ignored Klug, so if anyone had an axe to grind it'd be him |
True, isn’t it.
Hurst ignored Klug, on what? | | | |
| Well done TWTD on 08:53 - Oct 30 with 5650 views | BackToRussia |
| Well done TWTD on 08:45 - Oct 30 by OsborneOneNil |
True, isn’t it.
Hurst ignored Klug, on what? |
I'd say so. The players needed something early on to inspire them behind Hurst - a manager coming in from a level below, especially. As it was they probably lost all confidence in him after about 6 weeks. I don't think it was that crazy to let Waghorn go, but it was always going to be a defining decision for his reign.
Re Klug - rumour mill is that a la Keane, Hurst didn't take any advice given to him by Klug on the younger players. Probably just one of those things that comes out of the woodwork when things are going badly though. | |
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| Well done TWTD on 08:55 - Oct 30 with 5643 views | jayceee |
----- M ----- W ----- L ----- D ----- %W
PH: 15 ----- 1 ----- 7 ----- 7 ----- 6.7
RK: 81 ---- 28 --- 25 ---- 28 --- 34.6
PJ : 86 ---- 30 --- 18 ---- 38 --- 34.9
PH was a disaster, but the sort order would be different if it was about likeability. |  | | |
| Well done TWTD on 10:26 - Oct 30 with 5551 views | chicoazul |
| Well done TWTD on 22:20 - Oct 29 by Dubtractor |
Yep, Hurst has at least saved any further debate on the Keane vs Jewell theme by inexplicably being worse than either of them.
Miles worse.
Utter disaster. |
This is the correct opinion. |  |
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| Well done TWTD on 11:23 - Oct 30 with 5459 views | SamWhiteUK |
The BCWYWF clan are most certainly having a mass debate |  | | |
| I totally agree on 13:48 - Oct 30 with 5330 views | Dyland |
| Well done TWTD on 08:18 - Oct 30 by OsborneOneNil |
Football is a funny ol game though. I’m convinced that if we’d had a timely slice of good fortune at Rotherham, scored during our good start at Exeter, pinched a deserved win with 10 men at home to Villa, scored a second when 1-0 up and on top against Norwich, held on at Brum....we could/would be lookin at a totally different situation with Hurst as our manager.
He took a massive punt on wholesale changes, and the squad needed some early wins to get the belief. We didn’t, and it went south due to that. |
Nonetheless, football is littered with the what ifs across every club and manager. Though some are obviously crap and simply not cut out for management, e.g. Tony Adams. Goes without saying that Hurst is not in that group, and I reckon he'll have some success still. Whether that can be consistently in the second or even top division will depend on what he takes from the ITFC experience.
Without knowing the bloke, he deserves the benefit of the doubt that inside he knows precisely what he needs to do different in the future. He should be under no illusions however as to the extent of the failure of him and Doig at ITFC, and that it's his failure when all is said and done, whatever mitigating factors can be pointed at. | |
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| Well done TWTD on 13:49 - Oct 30 with 5321 views | jjblue84 |
We’ll never know! |  | | |
| On the contrary, we do know (n/t) on 13:51 - Oct 30 with 5313 views | Dyland |
| Well done TWTD on 13:49 - Oct 30 by jjblue84 |
We’ll never know! |
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| I'm still voting for Keane, as ridiculous as that sounds on 13:59 - Oct 30 with 5291 views | Dyland |
| Well done TWTD on 10:26 - Oct 30 by chicoazul |
This is the correct opinion. |
what with all the other factors.
It's actually very, very hard to separate any of the three.
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