| Ryan Fraser 17:23 - Jun 13 with 4741 views | cressi |
Going out on loan to a championship club wants to move further south not hard from Newcastle aged 29 is he to injury prone back does have ability ? Any would be takers on here. |  | | |  |
| Ryan Fraser on 17:25 - Jun 13 with 4357 views | geg1992 |
I saw an article linking him to nodge earlier, hope not.
I'd love him back. |  |
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| Ryan Fraser on 17:26 - Jun 13 with 4310 views | FrimleyBlue |
Didn't he have a load of off pitch stuff going on. |  |
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| Ryan Fraser on 17:33 - Jun 13 with 4254 views | J2BLUE |
Comes across as a massive bell. Don't think he would fit in. |  |
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| Ryan Fraser on 17:45 - Jun 13 with 4137 views | BigCommon |
Wasn't there loads of noise about him downing tools at Bournemouth , under Howe, when they were struggling, in order to force a move elsewhere?
Consequently, hasn't had a look in, under Howe at Toon.
If there's a modicum of truth in that, then he can jog on.. |  | | |
| Ryan Fraser on 17:49 - Jun 13 with 4093 views | J2BLUE |
| Ryan Fraser on 17:45 - Jun 13 by BigCommon |
Wasn't there loads of noise about him downing tools at Bournemouth , under Howe, when they were struggling, in order to force a move elsewhere?
Consequently, hasn't had a look in, under Howe at Toon.
If there's a modicum of truth in that, then he can jog on.. |
Not sure about that. I think it was pretty low of him not to sign a short term extension to play in their final games though. I'm sure they would have insured him properly. Then he ran his mouth about how he thinks he could have kept them up.
Either help them out or don't and shut up. If I was Howe, he would have been out the door at the earliest opportunity at Newcastle. | |
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| Ryan Fraser on 18:05 - Jun 13 with 3921 views | jayessess |
Really really excellent footballer though. |  |
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| Ryan Fraser on 18:20 - Jun 13 with 3771 views | ArnieM |
Fraser in a McCarthy team of “ real blokes” might have looked the dogs Bollox in the day . I’d say he’s not up to the standard of our current squad . Times move on . He’s older. We’re far better now. |  |
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| Ryan Fraser on 18:40 - Jun 13 with 3648 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
I'm surprised Bournemouth wouldn't want him back.
You'd think Luton, Palace, Fulham etc might all look at him. |  |
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| Ryan Fraser on 19:05 - Jun 13 with 3508 views | jayessess |
| Ryan Fraser on 18:20 - Jun 13 by ArnieM |
Fraser in a McCarthy team of “ real blokes” might have looked the dogs Bollox in the day . I’d say he’s not up to the standard of our current squad . Times move on . He’s older. We’re far better now. |
Much as I'd like this to be true... after he left us he's gone on to have a really good Premier League career (173 games, 53 goals and assists) and played 26 times for Scotland. He's also 29, so still in his peak years.
Unless last season's injury or attitude problems have dramatically affected his level, he should be way too good for the Championship. [Post edited 13 Jun 2023 19:11]
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| Ryan Fraser on 19:12 - Jun 13 with 3439 views | Pinewoodblue |
Read that Norwich were in the hunt, two years still on his contract, looking for a loan. |  |
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| Ryan Fraser on 19:20 - Jun 13 with 3367 views | BlueNomad |
| Ryan Fraser on 17:45 - Jun 13 by BigCommon |
Wasn't there loads of noise about him downing tools at Bournemouth , under Howe, when they were struggling, in order to force a move elsewhere?
Consequently, hasn't had a look in, under Howe at Toon.
If there's a modicum of truth in that, then he can jog on.. |
There is no way he should come here! He has great ability but it is true that he downed tools at Bournemouth, was reportedly out of order at Newcastle and doesn’t sound the sort of bloke we want here. Do we really want a disrupter here? The cons outweigh the pros |  | | |
| Ryan Fraser on 19:26 - Jun 13 with 3328 views | ITFC_Josh |
| Ryan Fraser on 18:20 - Jun 13 by ArnieM |
Fraser in a McCarthy team of “ real blokes” might have looked the dogs Bollox in the day . I’d say he’s not up to the standard of our current squad . Times move on . He’s older. We’re far better now. |
Getting a bit carried away with ‘we’re too good for him’ when mentioned/linked with very good players. |  | | |
| Ryan Fraser on 19:41 - Jun 13 with 3246 views | Oldsmoker |
| Ryan Fraser on 19:26 - Jun 13 by ITFC_Josh |
Getting a bit carried away with ‘we’re too good for him’ when mentioned/linked with very good players. |
That's a fair point.
I think Ashton still has to pull out all the stops on any prospective transfer, and persuade them that the move to Town is the best decision they'll ever make.
That's going to be a hard sell for some players to buy into. |  |
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| Ryan Fraser on 21:34 - Jun 13 with 2911 views | ArnieM |
| Ryan Fraser on 19:05 - Jun 13 by jayessess |
Much as I'd like this to be true... after he left us he's gone on to have a really good Premier League career (173 games, 53 goals and assists) and played 26 times for Scotland. He's also 29, so still in his peak years.
Unless last season's injury or attitude problems have dramatically affected his level, he should be way too good for the Championship. [Post edited 13 Jun 2023 19:11]
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Thing is if his attitude is an underlying but critical influence to his on field demise then he’s not got the attributes that would fit in at this club, so he’s not for us.
He’d be a rotten apple in the barrel,effectively wouldn’t he. You only need one bad character to totally disrupt the whole squad.
Historically, Serine Was one such case I feel, many years ago. Ended up in prison eventually… | |
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| Ryan Fraser on 23:28 - Jun 13 with 2575 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Ryan Fraser on 19:41 - Jun 13 by Oldsmoker |
That's a fair point.
I think Ashton still has to pull out all the stops on any prospective transfer, and persuade them that the move to Town is the best decision they'll ever make.
That's going to be a hard sell for some players to buy into. |
I think it's possibly the easiest time any ceo. Chairman etc has had at selling the club to players in the past 20 odd years.
Finances check
Large crowds home and away check
Ambitious. Yep
Good football. Yep
Project. Yep.
Suffolk.. many players like it so much they never leave.
Pitch.. check
Training ground.. hmmmmm | |
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| Ryan Fraser on 00:18 - Jun 14 with 2484 views | rodney76 |
As a loanee and with a January release clause in case it didn't work out it would be a decent risk for any Championship club.
Clearly he was enticed by the big bucks of Newcastle, but as that has gone sour on him, he might be a bit more compliant and down to size.
I don't recall him upsetting the apple cart at Town, the opposite in fact.
If Norwich lands him then let's hope he doesn't do another Huckerby. The are parallels. [Post edited 14 Jun 2023 0:19]
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| Ryan Fraser on 06:58 - Jun 14 with 2275 views | Churchman |
| Ryan Fraser on 19:41 - Jun 13 by Oldsmoker |
That's a fair point.
I think Ashton still has to pull out all the stops on any prospective transfer, and persuade them that the move to Town is the best decision they'll ever make.
That's going to be a hard sell for some players to buy into. |
Yes, ITFC of course has to sell itself to players. It’s a short career and Ipswich is not London or Manchester.
It does though have its own attractions both as a place and a football club. Ashton has made it clear that they only want people in the club that want to be here and will embrace the club’s ethics and standards (paraphrasing here). If a player doesn’t want to do that, this isn’t the club for them however good they are.
I can’t see the club compromising on this for Fraser or anyone else and nor should they just because we are in a tougher league. The attitude of our players was first class last season from what I could see and were a real contrast to say Leicester, some of whose players didn’t want to know.
I watched Fraser when he was here and thought he was excellent. But that was a long time ago when he was making his way in the game. We had a strong manager and forceful players in Chambers and co then so it’s no surprise he was compliant.
But it’s 2023 and if Fraser is what some people are suggesting, he’s not for us. The days of begging players to come and hoping we can turn round rotten apples like Chopra are gone, thank goodness. |  | | |
| Ryan Fraser on 08:11 - Jun 14 with 2112 views | Bluefields |
| Ryan Fraser on 18:20 - Jun 13 by ArnieM |
Fraser in a McCarthy team of “ real blokes” might have looked the dogs Bollox in the day . I’d say he’s not up to the standard of our current squad . Times move on . He’s older. We’re far better now. |
Ability wise he is far better than most in our squad, its his personality that would be a concern. | | | |
| Ryan Fraser on 08:24 - Jun 14 with 2061 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Ryan Fraser on 23:28 - Jun 13 by FrimleyBlue |
I think it's possibly the easiest time any ceo. Chairman etc has had at selling the club to players in the past 20 odd years.
Finances check
Large crowds home and away check
Ambitious. Yep
Good football. Yep
Project. Yep.
Suffolk.. many players like it so much they never leave.
Pitch.. check
Training ground.. hmmmmm |
I think us being located where we are, tucked away miles from anywhere is one of the reasons some turn us down.
But yeah we tick all other boxes and the training ground is improving. |  |
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| Ryan Fraser on 09:03 - Jun 14 with 1944 views | BlueBlood90 |
Not for me. Happily allowed Bournemouth to get relegated because he didn't want to get injured after turning down a new deal. I loved him here on loan but quite happy to see him linked with Norwich as his attitude clearly stinks. |  |
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| Ryan Fraser on 09:43 - Jun 14 with 1823 views | blueoxford |
| Ryan Fraser on 17:25 - Jun 13 by geg1992 |
I saw an article linking him to nodge earlier, hope not.
I'd love him back. |
Bad apple. Hope he signs for Narwich | | | |
| Ryan Fraser on 09:51 - Jun 14 with 1783 views | itfcjoe |
| Ryan Fraser on 18:20 - Jun 13 by ArnieM |
Fraser in a McCarthy team of “ real blokes” might have looked the dogs Bollox in the day . I’d say he’s not up to the standard of our current squad . Times move on . He’s older. We’re far better now. |
Fraser looked head and shoulders above a team that finished 7th in the Championship and would have been the difference between us being in the top 6 - since then he's played only in the PL.
To suggest he isn't good enough for us now is laughable |  |
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| Ryan Fraser on 10:16 - Jun 14 with 1667 views | Vic |
There is no doubt in my mind that he’s a good deal better than the vast majority, if not all, of our squad. So in terms of ability he’d be a great addition.
But whether he would fit into our teams way of playing I’ve no idea.
Of course his attitude is another issue. Him and Howe clearly don’t get on so how much of his reputation is down to that I don’t know. Would he be different with a different manager? I guess we’ll only know that when he moves to a new club. |  |
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| Ryan Fraser on 10:24 - Jun 14 with 1644 views | Kievthegreat |
Ability wise, he would be a great signing for most teams aiming for the top end of the Championship. There will seemingly be question marks about his attitudes off the pitch, but that is what makes him available to sign. I'll trust McKenna and co to make the decision, but if they can get him knuckled down he'd be a fantastic asset. |  | | |
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