| Boris/Cummins strategy.... 09:10 - Oct 23 with 4918 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
.....looks like it was always a people v Parliament election
....and many of the plebs will be keeping warm under their blankets so won't get out to vote Labour or Farage. |  |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:20 - Oct 23 with 1619 views | itfcjoe |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:13 - Oct 23 by Swansea_Blue |
...is fake news. We're there now with the States - blatant propaganda pumped out for the core support.
For those who haven't been following (why not?), it didn't 'pass', it only went through the second reading - it will have to go through the Lords, potential amendments and then a third reading successfully before it's "passed".
Johnson paused the Withdrawal Agreement Bill. He's delaying it from progressing.
Oh, and it's Boris'. Not Boris's. |
How can any of the Labour Leavers like Flint and Kinnock back the Government on this? The Conservatives are after their seats and compromising with the Tories gets you nowhere |  |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:24 - Oct 23 with 1614 views | solemio |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:13 - Oct 23 by Swansea_Blue |
...is fake news. We're there now with the States - blatant propaganda pumped out for the core support.
For those who haven't been following (why not?), it didn't 'pass', it only went through the second reading - it will have to go through the Lords, potential amendments and then a third reading successfully before it's "passed".
Johnson paused the Withdrawal Agreement Bill. He's delaying it from progressing.
Oh, and it's Boris'. Not Boris's. |
Both are correct. |  | | |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:29 - Oct 23 with 1601 views | Ryorry |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:20 - Oct 23 by itfcjoe |
How can any of the Labour Leavers like Flint and Kinnock back the Government on this? The Conservatives are after their seats and compromising with the Tories gets you nowhere |
Self-interest -
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:32 - Oct 23 with 1591 views | Guthrum |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:20 - Oct 23 by itfcjoe |
How can any of the Labour Leavers like Flint and Kinnock back the Government on this? The Conservatives are after their seats and compromising with the Tories gets you nowhere |
Because in Brexit we have an issue which transcends the old party boundaries. Effectively, it is only inertia and ingrained tribalism which is holding them together at the moment.
I can't think of a time when we've had such constant and large-scale rebellion against party whips on important votes, combined with resignations, defections and expulsions. |  |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:33 - Oct 23 with 1589 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:24 - Oct 23 by solemio |
Both are correct. |
Evidently not, otherwise it couldn't be delayed by Labour. You can't have a Bill enacted into law and not enacted into law simultaneously. |  |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:39 - Oct 23 with 1578 views | Kievthegreat |
Might not be an election just yet....
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:44 - Oct 23 with 1561 views | Kievthegreat |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:39 - Oct 23 by Kievthegreat |
Might not be an election just yet....
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Or maybe no change...
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 12:28 - Oct 23 with 1535 views | manchego |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:24 - Oct 23 by solemio |
Both are correct. |
Turns out not to be true.
It hasn't passed Parliament otherwise it couldn't have been delayed.
someone wrote...
Untrue from the liar's party when the deal hasn't "passed Parliament" by clearing only a Commons 2nd reading(committee, report, 3rd reading and whole process in Lords to come) but 19 Lab MPs must feel silly when they allowed the Cons to put out misleading propaganda. |  | | |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 12:53 - Oct 23 with 1522 views | m14_blue |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 12:28 - Oct 23 by manchego |
Turns out not to be true.
It hasn't passed Parliament otherwise it couldn't have been delayed.
someone wrote...
Untrue from the liar's party when the deal hasn't "passed Parliament" by clearing only a Commons 2nd reading(committee, report, 3rd reading and whole process in Lords to come) but 19 Lab MPs must feel silly when they allowed the Cons to put out misleading propaganda. |
I may be wrong but I think he might just be talking about the apostrophe when he says both are correct... | | | |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 13:48 - Oct 23 with 1478 views | jaykay |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:15 - Oct 23 by StokieBlue |
I didn't say that. I said it will play well to a set of voters - perhaps read more carefully?
It's no different to saying that JC putting renationalisation in his manifesto will play will to a set of voters.
You seem to be looking for offence where there is none.
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i thought appeal to voters would be better . yet when someone says something that is true its ' All pretty irrelevant' .i bid you good day |  |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 14:04 - Oct 23 with 1469 views | StokieBlue |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 13:48 - Oct 23 by jaykay |
i thought appeal to voters would be better . yet when someone says something that is true its ' All pretty irrelevant' .i bid you good day |
You seem to be mixing up the realities of the situation with what I believe. If you want to pretend the realities don't exist then go right ahead.
No idea why, you seem to be intentionally misrepresenting my posts.
Have a good day.
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 19:52 - Oct 23 with 1426 views | LeoMuff |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:18 - Oct 23 by manchego |
Tories love Boris. It doesn't matter about his bluster and lies. He'll keep Tory votes fairly strong. He doesn't do shame or embarrassment and they love that. Tories will find the magic money tree and campaign on cake and jam for everyone.
Corbyn will get humped. The Tories won't campaign anywhere nearly as bad as the last time.
Lib Dems will take a lot of Lab seats by default.
No Tories in Scotland.
Small Tory majority. |
Just because the Tories love Boris doesn’t mean much, I would imagine a large part of the remain 48% will be voting against him for a start, there he always the very real chance he will shoot himself in the foot ala the laptop/wine domestic incident during the leadership campaign, Jennifer Acura, Darius Guppy I’m sure there’s plenty of much to throw which may not be out there yet.
We just need a united front from the opposition.. |  |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 19:58 - Oct 23 with 1420 views | hampstead_blue |
Problem is that they won't give him an election because he will win.
The HoP wants to block Brexit end of. Labour keep moving the goal posts of triggering an election, they will lose.
Nothing will happen until Brexit is stopped. The HoP have really stooped and ignored the vote.
BJ has called Labours bluff and JC is stuck. |  |
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Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 20:11 - Oct 23 with 1401 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 19:58 - Oct 23 by hampstead_blue |
Problem is that they won't give him an election because he will win.
The HoP wants to block Brexit end of. Labour keep moving the goal posts of triggering an election, they will lose.
Nothing will happen until Brexit is stopped. The HoP have really stooped and ignored the vote.
BJ has called Labours bluff and JC is stuck. |
He may well, but there was a fairly damning set of stats floating round this morning that shows how unpopular Boris actually is. It might not be as obvious as some people are saying.
Approval ratings after first 3 months for each of the latest PMs:
https://news.sky.com/story/sky-data-poll-a-nation-discontented-and-divided-11841
I'm not holding out any false hopes on this though; Labour are borderline unelectable. I only say borderline, becasue they did make some good gains in the last GE, so credit where it's due. A lot of water under the bridge since then though and in addition to ripping themselves apart internally, they are alienating remain voters.
My hope of that the LDs make big gains, but PR is probably against them. | |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 21:26 - Oct 23 with 1378 views | Vic |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 09:33 - Oct 23 by BlueinBrum |
An interesting point about the weather. Have we ever had a winter election before? Not in my voting lifetime certainly.
I really don't think the importance of something like the weather should be understated. So many people just don't really give a toss and will only bother if it's not cold/raining. |
So the olds won’t be able to get out to vote, leaving the hoof to win the day.
Or, the olds brave the elements while the snowflake generation stay home in the warm and melt. |  |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 22:18 - Oct 23 with 1363 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 11:18 - Oct 23 by manchego |
Tories love Boris. It doesn't matter about his bluster and lies. He'll keep Tory votes fairly strong. He doesn't do shame or embarrassment and they love that. Tories will find the magic money tree and campaign on cake and jam for everyone.
Corbyn will get humped. The Tories won't campaign anywhere nearly as bad as the last time.
Lib Dems will take a lot of Lab seats by default.
No Tories in Scotland.
Small Tory majority. |
Agree, Tories will win around 330 seats. Labour will be destroyed by Lib Undemocrats in the Remainer areas and by TBP in traditional Labour heartlands. |  |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 22:24 - Oct 23 with 1350 views | Kievthegreat |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 22:18 - Oct 23 by The_Last_Baron |
Agree, Tories will win around 330 seats. Labour will be destroyed by Lib Undemocrats in the Remainer areas and by TBP in traditional Labour heartlands. |
Lib Dems will take more seats from the Tories than Labour.
A list of seats showing the percentage swing required to the Lib Dems, there's lots more blue than red. A lot of the Tory seats in that list are former Lib Dem strongholds, especially in the southwest.
http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground/targets/liberal-democrat | | | |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 23:00 - Oct 23 with 1323 views | The_Last_Baron |
Fair point.
I believe that an electoral pact between The Tories and TBP would produce a majority. I don't think it'll happen officially. | |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 23:03 - Oct 23 with 1318 views | Herbivore |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 23:00 - Oct 23 by The_Last_Baron |
Fair point.
I believe that an electoral pact between The Tories and TBP would produce a majority. I don't think it'll happen officially. |
The Brexit Party are fast becoming an irrelevance. |  |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 23:04 - Oct 23 with 1317 views | vapour_trail |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 23:00 - Oct 23 by The_Last_Baron |
Fair point.
I believe that an electoral pact between The Tories and TBP would produce a majority. I don't think it'll happen officially. |
Believe what you want.
The BTP will not win a seat. They’ll just take votes off Johnson.
You still having a party on 31 Oct? |  |
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| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 07:47 - Oct 24 with 1270 views | Oxford_Blue |
Plebs?
And you are? | | | |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 09:04 - Oct 24 with 1251 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Boris/Cummins strategy.... on 07:47 - Oct 24 by Oxford_Blue |
Plebs?
And you are? |
A pleb who rarely votes whatever the weather. | |
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