Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? 10:49 - May 18 with 10322 views | HarryWright | I'm talking about a youngster who had all the hype coming through but wasn't actually very good. I'll start with Ronan Murray, although special mention to Teddy Bishop. | | | | |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 10:52 - May 18 with 5030 views | Swailsey | There was a bit of buzz around Richard Logan wasn't there? I suppose Bowditch or Billy Clarke (1) - I know they both have had strong careers, but much more was hoped for them wasn't it. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 10:52 - May 18 with 5029 views | Steve_M | Josh Carson. A couple of goals, loads of hype but he wasn't quite that good enough. Maybe Richard Logan. Murray was fine, decent technically but lightweight. Never overly hyped either. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 10:58 - May 18 with 4980 views | King_of_Portman_Rd | Byron Lawrence. Never really played for us but was always considered to be something special (Even rumours of Arsenal being interested) But then he left, and has fallen through the leagues | | | |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 10:59 - May 18 with 4969 views | hype313 | Josh Carson, can't remember there being much furor around Logan. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:10 - May 18 with 4927 views | Steve_M |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 10:58 - May 18 by King_of_Portman_Rd | Byron Lawrence. Never really played for us but was always considered to be something special (Even rumours of Arsenal being interested) But then he left, and has fallen through the leagues |
I nearly mentioned him but i would be a little unfair; Jewell stuck him in the squad as a futile piece of tokenism. I'm not sure he was that highly rated for any other reason. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:17 - May 18 with 4880 views | unbelievablue | Bowditch all day. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:18 - May 18 with 4875 views | hoppy |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 10:52 - May 18 by Swailsey | There was a bit of buzz around Richard Logan wasn't there? I suppose Bowditch or Billy Clarke (1) - I know they both have had strong careers, but much more was hoped for them wasn't it. |
Bowditch was supposedly on Liverpool's radar, wasn't he? And then we gave him about 27 million contracts in the hope that his potential would realise itself, but never quite happened. He's done ok for himself, but not had his name in the bright lights that were expected really. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:19 - May 18 with 4871 views | The_Romford_Blue | Marriott and Dozzell for fan hype The more they didn't/don't play, the more people are convincing themselves that they should be weekly starters who would change us into a top team. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:22 - May 18 with 4848 views | JakeITFC |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:10 - May 18 by Steve_M | I nearly mentioned him but i would be a little unfair; Jewell stuck him in the squad as a futile piece of tokenism. I'm not sure he was that highly rated for any other reason. |
Think there was a real buzz around him at academy level - I remember one dad saying he was as good as any kid they'd seen. I don't think Teddy Bishop has been overrated, he was/id genuinely very good at this level. | | | |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:22 - May 18 with 4838 views | Swailsey |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:18 - May 18 by hoppy | Bowditch was supposedly on Liverpool's radar, wasn't he? And then we gave him about 27 million contracts in the hope that his potential would realise itself, but never quite happened. He's done ok for himself, but not had his name in the bright lights that were expected really. |
Yeah. He's still made a good career, but he really did seem like he was going to be a star. Carson (as others have said) was another. The goals in his first few games made him look like he had real promise. In terms of being overrated though...I don't think any of our young players have played enough to be overrated have they? That isn't a dig at Mick, but I can't think of any managers over the last 15 years who have persisted with youngsters when they weren't performing? | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:25 - May 18 with 4813 views | RoyKeanesDog | I think overhyped is more accurate a word. Bowditch definitely had the biggest hype since Wright. His first impressions also made it look as if the hype was true. He's had a decent career, but his reported potential was much greater than any of the other names mentioned in this thread. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:26 - May 18 with 4804 views | PJH |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:17 - May 18 by unbelievablue | Bowditch all day. |
I don't think Bowditch was overrated, he just did not develop into the very good player that it seemed he would become when he arrived on the scene at age 16/17. | | | |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:34 - May 18 with 4772 views | ITFC_Forever |
Clarke was excellent until he got injured (away to Southend I think), he never quite got it back for us after that. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:35 - May 18 with 4771 views | monty_radio | The whole issue is a tough call really. "Overhyped" is certainly a fair description of a two page spread in the Star before you've made an impression at first team level. On the other hand, these lads were simply doing what they were good at, but, the occasional waster apart, merely discovered that "what they were good at" got found out at the true professional level. Probably increasingly true of goalscorers - many will have played against the lad who could score half-a-dozen goals a game at 15, but settled down to become a good, reliable S.I.L. 20-goal-per-season centre forward. I think it's the same at higher levels when defensive stategies get better because adults are better at organising than kids. Then your Ronan Murrays, who don't develop new coping strategies, get found out. Nevertheless, the hype is a good measure of Portman Rd starvation - as this season's Goals For tally indicates. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 12:08 - May 18 with 4703 views | GrahamHarbey | Can''t say that about Teddy, he was awesome for a decent period in 14-15, agree on Murray as he was as good as Antonio Murray eg not very good! | | | |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 12:12 - May 18 with 4674 views | TractorWood |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:19 - May 18 by The_Romford_Blue | Marriott and Dozzell for fan hype The more they didn't/don't play, the more people are convincing themselves that they should be weekly starters who would change us into a top team. |
Not sure there was much hype about Marriott's ability just frustration that he wasn't getting a chance. Bowditch or Carson for me. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 12:15 - May 18 with 4655 views | PhilTWTD |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:22 - May 18 by JakeITFC | Think there was a real buzz around him at academy level - I remember one dad saying he was as good as any kid they'd seen. I don't think Teddy Bishop has been overrated, he was/id genuinely very good at this level. |
Indeed, I think part of Byron's early inclusion was down to interest and trying to make sure the tribunal figure was significant if that was firmed up. Like plenty of others, ultimately didn't fulfil the potential. Good luck to him though as he seems to be making progress. Really decent lad. Carson was similarly seen as a big talent - Town beat a lot of big clubs to get him - and a lot of surprise at the club that he was one who lost his way in the manner that he did as seemed an unlikely character to go that way. | | | |
Richard Logan? (n/t) on 12:19 - May 18 with 4625 views | Menton | | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 12:20 - May 18 with 4621 views | CaptainObvious | Harry Wright | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 12:23 - May 18 with 4591 views | King_of_Portman_Rd | Westlake? I remember watching him and thinking he was destined to go onto better things than us, but disappeared down the leagues after his move to Leeds | | | |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 12:31 - May 18 with 4523 views | theblueginger | Josh Wight, academy left-back from a few years ago was linked with Liverpool i think. He then just vanished into thin air. | | | |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 12:32 - May 18 with 4512 views | GlasgowBlue | Jordan Rhodes. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 12:54 - May 18 with 4425 views | itfcjoe |
Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 11:22 - May 18 by JakeITFC | Think there was a real buzz around him at academy level - I remember one dad saying he was as good as any kid they'd seen. I don't think Teddy Bishop has been overrated, he was/id genuinely very good at this level. |
He was excellent at that level - but was used as a pawn by Jewell to show we were looking to the future and just hyped up. Although part of that was to get him to sign here rather than leave. | |
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Most Overrated ITFC youngster ever? on 12:57 - May 18 with 4414 views | itfcjoe | I'd say Darryl Knights, I think partly because he was local but he was really hyped up but just didn't do enough once we had a few Irish boys come in but kept that reputation. Bar a forgettable only appearance at the Stadium of Light he just drifted further and further behind likes of Billy Clarke | |
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