| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) 16:23 - Jun 25 with 2327 views | Steve_M |
And the longer it goes on, the more voters decide that they will vote Lib Dem or Green regardless at the next election. |  |
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 16:31 - Jun 25 with 2286 views | SpruceMoose |
Still trying to play both sides eh?
Utterly inept opposition. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 16:32 - Jun 25 with 2280 views | ballycastle |
Thus letting in the utterly unfit for government Tories by default, feck he is an incompetent. |  | | |
| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 16:38 - Jun 25 with 2257 views | Guthrum |
Must be hard to abandon political positions held for a lifetime when it looks like someone else will deliver them painlessly for you. Problem is, the rest of the Shadow Cabinet recognise they're now being seen as complicit. |  |
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 17:22 - Jun 25 with 2184 views | lowhouseblue |
as far as corbyn is concerned brexit wasn't an issue in the 1970s and is quite unlikely to have much impact on palestine. therefore it really isn't a priority one way or the other.
edit: and to be frank he finds it very annoying that people keep going on about it. he's had quite enough of these people. [Post edited 25 Jun 2019 17:24]
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| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 17:51 - Jun 25 with 2131 views | BlueBadger |
| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 16:32 - Jun 25 by ballycastle |
Thus letting in the utterly unfit for government Tories by default, feck he is an incompetent. |
You know it's bad if even Abbot has noticed that it's an issue. |  |
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 19:23 - Jun 25 with 2088 views | pickles110564 |
He actually did three things, ruined our economy. |  | | |
| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 19:24 - Jun 25 with 2086 views | wkj |
| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 19:23 - Jun 25 by pickles110564 |
He actually did three things, ruined our economy. |
What are the other two?
Voting for remain and voting for brexit? |  |
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 19:25 - Jun 25 with 2082 views | SpruceMoose |
| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 19:23 - Jun 25 by pickles110564 |
He actually did three things, ruined our economy. |
He correctly called that woman a bigot too. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 19:39 - Jun 25 with 2061 views | Swansea_Blue |
Absolutely useless. What is the point of the Labour Party in its current guise? I’m not surprised supporters are abandoning them. They’re playing exactly the same opportunistic game as the Tories at the time we need a party with clear policy and conviction to tackle the unraveling Tory clusterf*ck.
Lib Dems gain though - the only main party to have a clear position and be led by their principles rather than their campaign managers and spin doctors. I bet they can’t believe their luck. |  |
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 19:42 - Jun 25 with 2059 views | WD19 |
Yeah, but Boris is a buffoon.....or something.
For the many. Glastonbury. New politics..... innit.....yeah.... |  | | |
| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 21:10 - Jun 25 with 1992 views | GlasgowBlue |
The real leader of the Labour party has said no to a second referendum.
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 21:29 - Jun 25 with 1971 views | WeWereZombies |
| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 19:24 - Jun 25 by wkj |
What are the other two?
Voting for remain and voting for brexit? |
pickles was talking about Gordon Brown - that is who my link was about. It is the ten pager we never had, did Brown save the economy but let the banking system off the hook in the process - or did sell off some gold reserves too cheaply and even up the tax regime but fall foul of public opinion because it affected some people's pensions. Actually it is possible to do all those things and still look good compared to what followed. |  |
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 07:06 - Jun 26 with 1860 views | Churchman |
| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 21:29 - Jun 25 by WeWereZombies |
pickles was talking about Gordon Brown - that is who my link was about. It is the ten pager we never had, did Brown save the economy but let the banking system off the hook in the process - or did sell off some gold reserves too cheaply and even up the tax regime but fall foul of public opinion because it affected some people's pensions. Actually it is possible to do all those things and still look good compared to what followed. |
Even people who don’t see a problem in Brown flogging off half the UKs gold assets in the early 2000s agree the timing and way in which he did it was truly awful. The ‘Brown bottom’ as it’s known. I gather he was warned too.
Brown as chancellor inherited an economy in good shape when Blair won. It was hosed up the wall by the time he left as PM, allowing the incompetent unpleasant tories in to do what they’ve done. From uncontrolled public spending to a massive hand in the financial crisis, primarily by splitting responsibilities between BoE and the hapless FSA, leaving regulation practically non-existent, I don’t think Brown’s record is a good one.
He also had a big hand in the destruction of UK pension provision which was about as good as it got when he arrived. Not so when he left. |  | | |
| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 07:53 - Jun 26 with 1825 views | Steve_M |
| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 07:06 - Jun 26 by Churchman |
Even people who don’t see a problem in Brown flogging off half the UKs gold assets in the early 2000s agree the timing and way in which he did it was truly awful. The ‘Brown bottom’ as it’s known. I gather he was warned too.
Brown as chancellor inherited an economy in good shape when Blair won. It was hosed up the wall by the time he left as PM, allowing the incompetent unpleasant tories in to do what they’ve done. From uncontrolled public spending to a massive hand in the financial crisis, primarily by splitting responsibilities between BoE and the hapless FSA, leaving regulation practically non-existent, I don’t think Brown’s record is a good one.
He also had a big hand in the destruction of UK pension provision which was about as good as it got when he arrived. Not so when he left. |
You see, commentary such as this which ignores the global nature of the financial crisis can only ever be seen as biased. Osborne's spending plans in opposition matched Labour's, why was that if Brown was so obviously wrong? | |
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 07:58 - Jun 26 with 1819 views | clive_baker |
Could it be that he’s playing a blinder? Let the conservatives conclude their leader voting, at which point there is a suggestion that BoJo would then call a general election. The more of a basket case Labour look, the less threatening they are and the more likely that is to happen. Then they go big with a firm remain stance and promise of a 2nd ref, clearing up at the election and getting into power? |  |
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 08:20 - Jun 26 with 1792 views | Steve_M |
| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 07:58 - Jun 26 by clive_baker |
Could it be that he’s playing a blinder? Let the conservatives conclude their leader voting, at which point there is a suggestion that BoJo would then call a general election. The more of a basket case Labour look, the less threatening they are and the more likely that is to happen. Then they go big with a firm remain stance and promise of a 2nd ref, clearing up at the election and getting into power? |
The problem with that theory is that is ascribes a degree of competence to Corbyn that has been hitherto invisible. And the longer his evident faults are visible then the more people who won't vote Labour until he is replaced. | |
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| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 08:30 - Jun 26 with 1785 views | hampstead_blue |
| Labour Brexit Policy (pt 632) on 21:10 - Jun 25 by GlasgowBlue |
The real leader of the Labour party has said no to a second referendum.
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Len's influence is huge.
His ex-partner is one of JC's key advisers. |  |
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