| Dear National Media 16:03 - Feb 27 with 5812 views | WarkTheWarkITFC |
You are no doubt already in the process of finding the most fitting words for the imminent obituary of Ipswich Town.
An historic and wonderful football club, one that has tasted European and domestic glory, is amongst a handful of clubs that have been ever presents in the top half of the English league pyramid over the last half century.
Even the European powerhouse that is Manchester City were recently of the third tier, as were Nottingham Forest, a continental giant themselves once upon a time. Look at the list of those eight or so clubs that have failed to drop down into what is now League One over that time and you will see that we are by far and away the smallest club in there.
Instead of celebrating our achievements such as punching well above our weight consistently for so long, we will instead be taunted with the same five words that have lazily been bandied about by the media this season. Careful What You Wish For.
I’ve thought long and hard on these words and the thought of relegation that once scared the life out of me, now oddly excites me. I’m starting to think that relegation just might be the closest thing to what I actually wished for.
You see, the football that I grew up and loved is unrecognisable from the game nowadays, summed up poetically by Chelsea goalkeeper Kepa refusing to be substituted in the Carabao Cup Final on Sunday. The thing about supporting a club whose greatest days are behind them is that you have a far greater affinity for days gone by than perhaps fans of clubs like Bournemouth, whose memories are filled with terrible players letting their team down at terrible stadiums, rather than the wonderful times they are currently enjoying.
Ipswich Town had some of the finest players in the world in the 1970’s, players that still tell stories about going into Bobby Robson’s office for a pay rise after being one of the standout players in a successful season, only to come out thinking they were lucky to remain on their current wage. We’ve gone from that to players paid ten times what the manager is, able to undermine their own managers with ease.
You see the thing that Ipswich fans are nostalgic about and the things we remember most fondly are the likes of George Burley, Kevin Beattie, John Wark and Alan Brazil developing from mere children at the club to world class performers. Passing football, goals, entertainment, trophies, dreams of success and developing our own. Those are the things of which we are rightly proud of and those are the things that we, well at least I anyway, dream of.
There is no doubt at all that Mick McCarthy did a phenomenal job in the first half of his near six year reign at Portman Road. It was never pretty, but we were hard to beat, had an incredible team spirit and rose from relegation certainties to Premier League hopefuls. In the space of a couple of years we had gone from staring into the abyss of the third tier to hammering promotion rivals Brentford away at Christmas to rise to the top of the table.
Anyone who suggests Mick did not work wonders in those early days is allowing the events that followed to corrupt the facts. But there can equally be no denying that in the second half of his time in charge of Town that many things deteriorated both on and off the pitch, a large proportion of which was his doing.
Almost every manager receives criticism from a small minority of fans, a lot of it unjustified. Almost every manager reacts with professionalism and dignity and gets on with the job in hand. During the most dire, turgid and uninspiring football that I have ever seen Mick continued to get let off very easy on the basis that we all understood that resources were few and far between and that we were operating on one of the smaller Championship budgets.
When results were arriving there were few that could argue with the style of play being something of ‘needs must’ given our inability to go out and pay the sort of big bucks that ‘bums off seats’ players command. But once the results started to dry up, the tension between the fans and Mick grew and this evolved into not only shutting up shop at home to the top teams in the division, but playing eight defence minded players at home to teams in the relegation zone, who had not picked up an away point all season.
With poor results and football that was almost unwatchable, including multiple runs of home matches without scoring and waiting until the 60th or 70th minute to have an effort on goal becoming a frequent occurrence, the patience of some supporters finally wore thin. This small fire that had started to burn was regularly exacerbated by McCarthy’s comments and snide digs at the fans. A man whose incredible man management had galvanised the entire club and caused us to fall in love with him, was telling supporters that if we sang for a player to come on he was less likely to involve them, frequently failing to recognise that it was a tiny percentage of supporters acting like ‘numbskulls’ or choosing to use an 87th minute goal at our deadly rivals, which put us in front, as an opportunity to tell his own fans to ‘f*** off’.
The marriage of Mick McCarthy and Ipswich Town can be split into the early years where every day was an adventure, we fell in love, we were constantly excited and hopeful for the future and the latter years, where we felt out of love, constantly fought with each other and stayed together a lot longer than should really have been the case.
Just because we entered into a new relationship, that ended badly and abruptly, doesn’t mean we made the wrong choice to part ways with Mick. The failure to get it right the next time around has no bearing on the validity of the earlier decision to part ways.
Which brings me back to what did I wish for?
The Premier League honestly doesn’t appeal to me. In 1993 Forest went up and finished 3rd and in 2000 we went up and finished 5th. I think that Wolves (in 8th) may become only the third or fourth team in 25 or so years to get promoted and finish in the top 8 — I have a feeling that Blackburn might have done something similar as well.
The most depressing time I had supporting Town was in 2002 when we got relegated with big name players who’d come in on big salaries, in some case double their team mates who got us promoted, helping to rip the soul of the club apart. Fast forward a decade and players like Michael Chopra, Jimmy Bullard (the permanent signing incarnation) and many others came in with big names, took a huge amount of money and added barely anything to the cause.
Everything I hate about modern football is summed up by the Premier League. The same six teams have a chance of winning things and that’s about it, bar a once in a million years occurrence like the Leicester City fairy-tale. I can honestly say that I’m not desperate to see an entire team of players most of us have never heard of come in on eye watering money with no consideration for whether it’s Ipswich, Huddersfield, Brighton or West Brom that they are playing for, as long as the wages are right.
Would I like to stay in the Championship? Absolutely, but you know what. After 18 successive seasons here, with three playoff failures, I am actually looking forward to something new.
Whilst not what I’d have thought I’d have wanted, League One represents a real chance for the club to move forward using its own young players, ridding the books of expensive flops, providing a realistic chance of being able to play attractive winning football, having players that can be real match winners in the division and visiting some new stadiums and teams.
The more I think about it the more I am excited. Of course, I could feel very different in 5 years’ time if the novelty has worn off, but somehow I don’t think I will.
In Mick’s final days we were a mid-table side getting 12,000 into the ground according to ticket sales, with no more than 8,000 being inside the stadium. Despite being on course to be one, if not the worst Championship side ever this season, we are getting 16,000 — 18,000 fans supporting the team now, singing for the entire 90 minutes. That should be what you are focusing on. How can a club almost double its support with the worst team most of its fans have ever witnessed?
Almost everything I value about being a supporter of this fine club seems like it really could happen next year. No guarantees, but for the first time in quite a while I am hopeful about the future of my club, when the lazy, uninformed journalist will assume it to be to complete opposite.
I’m realistic enough to know that Ipswich will likely never win another European title. Maybe we will never win another top flight title. But for me, whether it’s the Premier League, Championship or League One, I just want to turn up to watch players trying to win, giving everything for the shirt and if they are one of our own then even better.
After the darkness comes light. So before you run the usual piece about how we’d have never gone down with Mick, ask yourselves why only 8,000 people could be bothered to watch us when we had an outside chance of the playoffs last season and why 18,000 of us are singing our hearts out in the headlights of our lowest league status in near living memory.
What's the real story here? A plucky little club that has achieved success it had no right to, consistently, finally succumbing to what almost every other club not named Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham or Liverpool has, yet its magnificent supporters back the club superbly home and away.
Almost entirely the opposite of what you'll likely say that we hounded out Mick McCarthy. The truth is that never has a group of supporters been more patient with such poor football for so long and this season, never has a group of supporters defied belief in their support of such an awful team.
We may be going down. But we are a wonderful club, a wounded club, finally learning how to be great again.
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| Dear National Media on 16:35 - Feb 27 with 3745 views | Kropotkin123 |
There are times when 1 upvote seems like a disservice. Well done.
EDIT: Perhaps Phil can get this into a blog for you. [Post edited 27 Feb 2019 16:36]
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| Dear National Media on 16:58 - Feb 27 with 3691 views | Coastalblue |
Great post.
For years I've been waiting for the time when football imploded, looked forward to it despite knowing that there would be a lot of collateral damage.
I think I have to accept now that it won't happen in my lifetime, if anyone it's just going to get worse. |  |
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| Dear National Media on 17:06 - Feb 27 with 3667 views | bluefunk |
Brilliant, thank you |  | | |
| Dear National Media on 17:11 - Feb 27 with 3648 views | tpsontour |
| Dear National Media on 16:35 - Feb 27 by Kropotkin123 |
There are times when 1 upvote seems like a disservice. Well done.
EDIT: Perhaps Phil can get this into a blog for you. [Post edited 27 Feb 2019 16:36]
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An alternative narrative is that in his six seasons, Mick won 15,18, 22, 18, 13 and 16 matches, securing four top half finishes in his five full seasons. He was the longest serving and most experienced manager in the Championship with multiple promotions and international and World Cup management on his CV. He came closer than anyone in years to getting us promoted.
Since Mick left the building, Klug has won us 1 match, Hurst 1 and Lambert 2. This season we have 3 wins from 36, 2 immediate Cup exits to lower league opposition and a 0-3 derby defeat. As our 17 seasons in the Championship end, we will be in League One for the first time since 1957 for an unknown length of time. As it stands, the Budgies will be going two divisions above us for the first time since 1938.
We will have no more than half the current squad that cannot currently win a game next season in League One. We will have £7 million less TV money and only be allowed to spend 75 per cent of our much reduced income, 60 per cent in subsequent seasons.
Those supporters and the local media who glibly campaigned for Evans to 'roll the dice' and bin McCarthy in favour of a 'progressive young manager', ignoring Evans' track record of hiring duds before McCarthy, can, if they like, declare themselves happy despite the catastrophic consequences this season and deride the 'be careful what you wish for brigade' and national media.
League One may even be an enjoyable novelty next season. Or if may not if our downward momentum is not arrested. And if it turns into a prolonged stay like the Championship (it took Sheffield United six seasons to get back up), how much fun will it be then? What will the crowds be? Could Evans reach the point where he pulls the plug financially?
There's a lot at stake in terms of the entire future of the football club by dropping down to the third tier and only time will tell how damaging this chain of events will prove. |  | | |
| Dear National Media on 18:06 - Feb 27 with 3569 views | factual_blue |
Well put, but I doubt we'll even get a mention.
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| Dear National Media on 18:38 - Feb 27 with 3548 views | clive_baker |
Well said that man.
Football is a journey, not a destination. The game never finishes. There's no end point. Next season really could be quite a ride in terms of this clubs journey, and we need to embrace it for what it is.
Outsiders might look at this and think "that's because you're going down, you would say that", but a friend of mine is a Man City fan, born and bred Mancunian and I've often expressed in the past how wonderful it must be for him to see the worlds greatest wearing a City shirt, and he's been quick to tell me to be careful what I wish for. Real fans priced out of watching their side, the sense of realisation that they have a squad of players only there for the pay cheque, an increasingly soulless, global and corporate club that's moving ever further from the community that it was born out of. His favourite city memories are "penniless City". Dickov. Goater. Horlock. 3rd Tier. Proper away days. Gillingham at Wembley.
How refreshing and honest would it be to see an Ipswich side with a strong contingent of academy bred talent wearing the badge for the 1st team, with a proud manager living and breathing what a community club should stand for. No egos, just a group of committed footballers doing their best for the badge on the front. Dozzell, Downes, Bishop, Nydam, Morris. There's 5 names right there that have not only graduated through our academy and been deemed promising enough for professional contracts, but have also been involved in England squads. Dylan Crowe is another. Lankaster has made a great impression this season. Woolfenden, Kenlock, Emmanuel. This squad has enormous potential in the right hands, and I really do believe we owe it to Paul Lambert to give him the chance to hit reset this summer and take real ownership, with a full preseason under his belt. Move on the ridiculous list of loanees we have currently and shape a side we can be really proud of, with a clear strategy and direction. We've got a proper manager in Lambert, I really do believe that, and we need to stand by him.
It's the emotion you capture so perfectly in your post, and outlook for next season that has got my old man asking me when the season ticket information is out for next season, such is his desire to sign up again after a 5 year sabbatical.
Only time will tell, but I sense after years of short-termism, in losing our championship status, we might just be getting back our club.
Bring on Southend away with a 1,500 strong Town contingent singing our hearts out. Jason welling up as Andre bangs in the winner. Up or down, follow the Town.
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| Dear National Media on 20:09 - Feb 27 with 3410 views | ArnieM |
Brilliant post Wark The Wark
As far as I’m concerned , Mick McCarthy lost the ( then huge) respect I once had for him.
Yes he kept us up when we were cut adrift ( 7 points) . He then drsgged us into the play offs. But in truth after the initial two seasons of his tenure , the remaining four were poor. His reign
essentially papered over the cracks at this Club. Cracks that has done been there for some years . Certainly since Evans has taken control financially, if not before.
But there is light at the end of this long dark tunnel. The man holding the torch is Paul Lambert, who in just a few months had done more to unite this Club with its fan base than Mr McCarthy could even dream of achieving. Paul Lambert will redirect this Great Club from the ashes of McCarthy’s reign , by installing the Clubs indentity again with its fan base, facilitating the development and progression of its academy talent into the senior sude( something that would NEVER have happened under McCarthy). ITFC will have its ethos if attractive football restored to ALL levels of the Club’s teams , providing a seamless transition for its Academy talent from junior to senior teams.
None of this would have happened under Mr Mick McCarthy .
ITFC, ARE careful what they wished for. We wished for a Manager that can communicate with the Owner, the staff, the players, the fans, & the media. A Manager that can install confidence in the owner, staff, players, fans & media. A Manager that can bring through the Clubs academy players, play attractive, attacking football. Bring the fans flocking back to Portman Road, and make that crowd vociferous - why? Because they “ believe”!
Yes Town are going down, but In so many ways we are in a far, far better place under Paul Lambert than we ever were under Mick McCarthy, and Ipswich Town FC WILL return , leaner, better, stronger than it ever was under Mr McCarthy.
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| Dear National Media on 20:12 - Feb 27 with 3397 views | Championship |
| Dear National Media on 20:09 - Feb 27 by ArnieM |
Brilliant post Wark The Wark
As far as I’m concerned , Mick McCarthy lost the ( then huge) respect I once had for him.
Yes he kept us up when we were cut adrift ( 7 points) . He then drsgged us into the play offs. But in truth after the initial two seasons of his tenure , the remaining four were poor. His reign
essentially papered over the cracks at this Club. Cracks that has done been there for some years . Certainly since Evans has taken control financially, if not before.
But there is light at the end of this long dark tunnel. The man holding the torch is Paul Lambert, who in just a few months had done more to unite this Club with its fan base than Mr McCarthy could even dream of achieving. Paul Lambert will redirect this Great Club from the ashes of McCarthy’s reign , by installing the Clubs indentity again with its fan base, facilitating the development and progression of its academy talent into the senior sude( something that would NEVER have happened under McCarthy). ITFC will have its ethos if attractive football restored to ALL levels of the Club’s teams , providing a seamless transition for its Academy talent from junior to senior teams.
None of this would have happened under Mr Mick McCarthy .
ITFC, ARE careful what they wished for. We wished for a Manager that can communicate with the Owner, the staff, the players, the fans, & the media. A Manager that can install confidence in the owner, staff, players, fans & media. A Manager that can bring through the Clubs academy players, play attractive, attacking football. Bring the fans flocking back to Portman Road, and make that crowd vociferous - why? Because they “ believe”!
Yes Town are going down, but In so many ways we are in a far, far better place under Paul Lambert than we ever were under Mick McCarthy, and Ipswich Town FC WILL return , leaner, better, stronger than it ever was under Mr McCarthy.
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Agree but if we compare this period of Lambert's reign to Mick's people are saying roughly the same things.
You can't really compare the worst of Mick to the honeymoon period of Lambert. |  | | |
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| Dear National Media on 20:29 - Feb 27 with 3356 views | ArnieM |
| Dear National Media on 20:12 - Feb 27 by Championship |
Agree but if we compare this period of Lambert's reign to Mick's people are saying roughly the same things.
You can't really compare the worst of Mick to the honeymoon period of Lambert. |
All can say is I know which style of football I’d prefer to watch.
Strangely enough I can recall saying to my friends ( when we made the play offs under MM), that I hated the style of football he used and I was actually quite bored by it . There was rarely any finesse and certainly minimal excitement or quality on display . Just “ proper blokes putting in a shift”. There is more to football than this surely ?
McCarthy latest stunt is truly classless . But I not even surprised by this cheap stunt by him, because this is his ale house approach to the game isn’t it. | |
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| Dear National Media on 20:30 - Feb 27 with 3350 views | SpruceMoose |
| Dear National Media on 20:29 - Feb 27 by ArnieM |
All can say is I know which style of football I’d prefer to watch.
Strangely enough I can recall saying to my friends ( when we made the play offs under MM), that I hated the style of football he used and I was actually quite bored by it . There was rarely any finesse and certainly minimal excitement or quality on display . Just “ proper blokes putting in a shift”. There is more to football than this surely ?
McCarthy latest stunt is truly classless . But I not even surprised by this cheap stunt by him, because this is his ale house approach to the game isn’t it. |
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| Dear National Media on 20:31 - Feb 27 with 3347 views | Championship |
| Dear National Media on 20:29 - Feb 27 by ArnieM |
All can say is I know which style of football I’d prefer to watch.
Strangely enough I can recall saying to my friends ( when we made the play offs under MM), that I hated the style of football he used and I was actually quite bored by it . There was rarely any finesse and certainly minimal excitement or quality on display . Just “ proper blokes putting in a shift”. There is more to football than this surely ?
McCarthy latest stunt is truly classless . But I not even surprised by this cheap stunt by him, because this is his ale house approach to the game isn’t it. |
Oh yeah,, there was definitely people who were complaining about the style all along however much Mick denies it.
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| Dear National Media on 20:32 - Feb 27 with 3337 views | SpruceMoose |
| Dear National Media on 20:31 - Feb 27 by Championship |
Oh yeah,, there was definitely people who were complaining about the style all along however much Mick denies it.
What stunt? |
I wonder if it is this...
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| Dear National Media on 20:36 - Feb 27 with 3312 views | Championship |
| Dear National Media on 20:32 - Feb 27 by SpruceMoose |
I wonder if it is this...
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I'm sure Mick doesn't sit and home refreshing TWTD to see the latest Ipswich Town news. He probably hadn't even seen Lambert's comments and just answered a question honestly. I don't believe Mick would seek to do us any harm but on the other hand why should be be bothered about helping us with mind games?
We are probably only as relevant to him as other clubs with a few players who qualify for ROI. | | | |
| Dear National Media on 20:38 - Feb 27 with 3301 views | SpruceMoose |
| Dear National Media on 20:36 - Feb 27 by Championship |
I'm sure Mick doesn't sit and home refreshing TWTD to see the latest Ipswich Town news. He probably hadn't even seen Lambert's comments and just answered a question honestly. I don't believe Mick would seek to do us any harm but on the other hand why should be be bothered about helping us with mind games?
We are probably only as relevant to him as other clubs with a few players who qualify for ROI. |
Well obviously. Some people are still obsessed by him though. They're a cult and will take any opportunity to froth at the gash about him. They're the Town supporting equivalent of those Tea Party members guffing about Benghazi. | |
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| Dear National Media on 21:19 - Feb 27 with 3210 views | ArnieM |
| Dear National Media on 20:32 - Feb 27 by SpruceMoose |
I wonder if it is this...
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Yes exactly that. He’s been in the game long enough to know the importance of this Sat’s game with Reading and that the Club were clearly keeping this injury status info under wraps. So he opens his big trap and gives Reading the heads up and whatever Lambert May have wanted to keep from Reading is now clearly out on the open. Trash it all you may but McVarthy knew exactly what he was doing. He’s vindictive towards ITFC and probably wants us relegated even more than scum fans. | |
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| Dear National Media on 21:29 - Feb 27 with 3195 views | Superblue95 |
| Dear National Media on 21:19 - Feb 27 by ArnieM |
Yes exactly that. He’s been in the game long enough to know the importance of this Sat’s game with Reading and that the Club were clearly keeping this injury status info under wraps. So he opens his big trap and gives Reading the heads up and whatever Lambert May have wanted to keep from Reading is now clearly out on the open. Trash it all you may but McVarthy knew exactly what he was doing. He’s vindictive towards ITFC and probably wants us relegated even more than scum fans. |
I’m no McCarthy lover but your viewpoint is ridiculous |  |
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| Dear National Media on 21:49 - Feb 27 with 3144 views | SpruceMoose |
| Dear National Media on 21:19 - Feb 27 by ArnieM |
Yes exactly that. He’s been in the game long enough to know the importance of this Sat’s game with Reading and that the Club were clearly keeping this injury status info under wraps. So he opens his big trap and gives Reading the heads up and whatever Lambert May have wanted to keep from Reading is now clearly out on the open. Trash it all you may but McVarthy knew exactly what he was doing. He’s vindictive towards ITFC and probably wants us relegated even more than scum fans. |
Lol. Don't be wet. He doesn't give a fook and I bet he'd laugh his bollox off at your post. [Post edited 27 Feb 2019 21:52]
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| Dear National Media on 21:57 - Feb 27 with 3122 views | PJH |
| Dear National Media on 21:29 - Feb 27 by Superblue95 |
I’m no McCarthy lover but your viewpoint is ridiculous |
I don't think it is good enough to call ridiculous. |  | | |
| Dear National Media on 22:06 - Feb 27 with 3086 views | Superblue95 |
| Dear National Media on 21:57 - Feb 27 by PJH |
I don't think it is good enough to call ridiculous. |
Very true. If McCarthy has any ill feelings towards us then I’m sure he’s satisfied enough by seeing us cut miles adrift at the bottom of the league, he wouldn’t need to come out with these sort of things as an attempt at mind games.
He definitely won’t be enjoying seeing us get relegated as much as Norwich fans are though and comments like that make people’s points lose any credibility they may have had | |
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| Dear National Media on 22:09 - Feb 27 with 3071 views | ArnieM |
| Dear National Media on 22:06 - Feb 27 by Superblue95 |
Very true. If McCarthy has any ill feelings towards us then I’m sure he’s satisfied enough by seeing us cut miles adrift at the bottom of the league, he wouldn’t need to come out with these sort of things as an attempt at mind games.
He definitely won’t be enjoying seeing us get relegated as much as Norwich fans are though and comments like that make people’s points lose any credibility they may have had |
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| Dear National Media on 22:12 - Feb 27 with 3063 views | SpruceMoose |
| Dear National Media on 22:09 - Feb 27 by ArnieM |
Whatever |
Pack it up folks. That comeback just destroyed all counter arguments! | |
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| Dear National Media on 22:17 - Feb 27 with 3056 views | Superblue95 |
| Dear National Media on 22:12 - Feb 27 by SpruceMoose |
Pack it up folks. That comeback just destroyed all counter arguments! |
I would have felt more humiliated if they’d said ‘whatevs’ so I think I got off lightly | |
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| Dear National Media on 22:18 - Feb 27 with 3045 views | SpruceMoose |
| Dear National Media on 22:17 - Feb 27 by Superblue95 |
I would have felt more humiliated if they’d said ‘whatevs’ so I think I got off lightly |
And your momma. | |
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| Dear National Media on 22:21 - Feb 27 with 3033 views | Superblue95 |
| Dear National Media on 22:18 - Feb 27 by SpruceMoose |
And your momma. |
Deleting ones account would be the only way of getting over the shame of being destroyed in such a manner | |
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| Dear National Media on 22:22 - Feb 27 with 3023 views | SpruceMoose |
| Dear National Media on 22:21 - Feb 27 by Superblue95 |
Deleting ones account would be the only way of getting over the shame of being destroyed in such a manner |
Then coming back as something like... I dunno... PamSamsDisco | |
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