| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 15:27 - Jul 30 with 4942 views | SheffordBlue |
Interested in people's constructive criticism on Town TV so far. My two penn'orth:
The Good:
Match day show with James Tzanoudakis and Matt Holland was very good and a big improvement on iFollow. The issues with the interrupted stream weren't TownTV's fault.
The additional content - A day in the life of, Three Words, in-depth interviews has been a good mix even if not all of it has been to my taste.
The Bad:
Not really clear going forward what will be 'Freemium' content and what will be 'Subscriber Only'. Maybe they haven't worked it out yet but some comms on this would be good.
No edited segments from the matchday show e.g. I couldn't watch it live but wanted to watch the Sam Morsy interview. Would be good to have this sort of things as standalone clip or have bookmarks to easily find it rather than have to search for it in a long show.
The Ugly:
Having to log into the app/website EVERY SINGLE TIME despite accepting cookies.
T&Cs for subscription weren't clear on sign up. I.e Wasn't made clear that they'd be taking recurring payments.
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 15:46 - Jul 30 with 4127 views | SitfcB |
Not had any of those log in issues, have been logged in since I subscribed last week and not had to log in again. |  |
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 15:55 - Jul 30 with 4089 views | LankHenners |
Agree that JT and Holland did a good job and sure the ex-Soccer AM guy who will do some hosting spots will be similarly slick and professional.
Range of content is good but obviously all that stuff was on there waiting for when it was open to subscription and going forwards there, presumably, won't be as much of a 'content dump' so to speak. Added to, as you say, a lot of interviews etc. being 'freemium', tough to know exactly what your subscription will get you in terms of extra stuff.
Think it's fair not to stick too many things that have been free to view behind a paywall so guess we'll get things like extended highlights and the occasional behind the scenes vid.
Not a personal issue for me but clearly people are getting log-in issues and for international viewers it seems there's a bit of a price hike from the previous offering. |  |
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 16:52 - Jul 30 with 3968 views | Illinoisblue |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 15:55 - Jul 30 by LankHenners |
Agree that JT and Holland did a good job and sure the ex-Soccer AM guy who will do some hosting spots will be similarly slick and professional.
Range of content is good but obviously all that stuff was on there waiting for when it was open to subscription and going forwards there, presumably, won't be as much of a 'content dump' so to speak. Added to, as you say, a lot of interviews etc. being 'freemium', tough to know exactly what your subscription will get you in terms of extra stuff.
Think it's fair not to stick too many things that have been free to view behind a paywall so guess we'll get things like extended highlights and the occasional behind the scenes vid.
Not a personal issue for me but clearly people are getting log-in issues and for international viewers it seems there's a bit of a price hike from the previous offering. |
Haven’t subscribed yet mostly because Sunderland game will be on ESPN+ here and also annoyed at the lack of a season pass option. The club’s reasoning for not offering a season pass is because they’ll be offering content all year round. Literally defies all logic for the club to say that. The club haven’t got much wrong the last 18 months but on this they have. |  |
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 16:57 - Jul 30 with 3949 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 16:52 - Jul 30 by Illinoisblue |
Haven’t subscribed yet mostly because Sunderland game will be on ESPN+ here and also annoyed at the lack of a season pass option. The club’s reasoning for not offering a season pass is because they’ll be offering content all year round. Literally defies all logic for the club to say that. The club haven’t got much wrong the last 18 months but on this they have. |
Maybe I misread it. I thought they were doing a season pass for foreign subscribers?
£20 a month I thought? |  |
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 17:09 - Jul 30 with 3876 views | Skip_Intro |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 16:57 - Jul 30 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Maybe I misread it. I thought they were doing a season pass for foreign subscribers?
£20 a month I thought? |
I think that's for 12 months rather than the season - so you'd be paying top dollar for the close season too - which seems like a rip-off tbh |  | | |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 17:12 - Jul 30 with 3862 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
there isn't an "app". It's just a website. I have bought a Firestick for my elderly Dad, and if they can launch it via an app then I can install the app on his Firestick and tell him to just hold down the voice button and say "Town TV". But without an app, it is much more difficult, so I don't see him being able to use it. He would happily pay the £10 per match for midweek games, but he won't be able to launch it and then enter payment details. There should be a simpler more accessible way to do it for people like him. |  |
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 17:16 - Jul 30 with 3834 views | Skip_Intro |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 17:12 - Jul 30 by LegendofthePhoenix |
there isn't an "app". It's just a website. I have bought a Firestick for my elderly Dad, and if they can launch it via an app then I can install the app on his Firestick and tell him to just hold down the voice button and say "Town TV". But without an app, it is much more difficult, so I don't see him being able to use it. He would happily pay the £10 per match for midweek games, but he won't be able to launch it and then enter payment details. There should be a simpler more accessible way to do it for people like him. |
there is an app for android and iphones - not sure whether it works for a firestick | | | |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 18:10 - Jul 30 with 3743 views | Illinoisblue |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 16:57 - Jul 30 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Maybe I misread it. I thought they were doing a season pass for foreign subscribers?
£20 a month I thought? |
Yes you can pay monthly but there is no option to pay for the season upfront. Whereas with IFollow you could pay for the entire season in advance and save a few $$$ doing so. The club are making a big deal about year-round content but if they think I’m paying 20 quid in July for bland pre-season fluff they can think again. [Post edited 30 Jul 2023 18:11]
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 18:21 - Jul 30 with 3697 views | mrfixit426 |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 18:10 - Jul 30 by Illinoisblue |
Yes you can pay monthly but there is no option to pay for the season upfront. Whereas with IFollow you could pay for the entire season in advance and save a few $$$ doing so. The club are making a big deal about year-round content but if they think I’m paying 20 quid in July for bland pre-season fluff they can think again. [Post edited 30 Jul 2023 18:11]
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Sound was all over the place. It's the difference between a production having a professional presentation, or coming over as a bit amateurish. |  | | |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 18:42 - Jul 30 with 3634 views | GlasgowBlue |
Never had this issue with iFollow. VPN worked a treat. They’ll lose a lot of subscribers if it’s not VPN compatible. [Post edited 30 Jul 2023 19:52]
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 18:44 - Jul 30 with 3616 views | Mullet |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 17:09 - Jul 30 by Skip_Intro |
I think that's for 12 months rather than the season - so you'd be paying top dollar for the close season too - which seems like a rip-off tbh |
iFollow used to do "season" and I subscribed in March once for radio comms. Had to pay again in August and was furious - so can see the 12 month logic.
Have to say I've not heard much positivity about Town TV yet which surprised me. |  |
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 18:47 - Jul 30 with 3582 views | 2-5-7 |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 15:55 - Jul 30 by LankHenners |
Agree that JT and Holland did a good job and sure the ex-Soccer AM guy who will do some hosting spots will be similarly slick and professional.
Range of content is good but obviously all that stuff was on there waiting for when it was open to subscription and going forwards there, presumably, won't be as much of a 'content dump' so to speak. Added to, as you say, a lot of interviews etc. being 'freemium', tough to know exactly what your subscription will get you in terms of extra stuff.
Think it's fair not to stick too many things that have been free to view behind a paywall so guess we'll get things like extended highlights and the occasional behind the scenes vid.
Not a personal issue for me but clearly people are getting log-in issues and for international viewers it seems there's a bit of a price hike from the previous offering. |
Commentary still not radio-friendly if the TV stream from the friendlies is being used. |  | | |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 18:50 - Jul 30 with 3576 views | itfcjoe |
No highlights of the last 3 friendlies available
No YouTube uploads since Hirst signing interview (how do we keep young/new fans engaged?)
And you can watch back the full broadcast from Innsbruck, but it includes the first hourish of just the holding screen - surely someone can cut that out, or put some edit points of when games are starting etc as it’s not easily scrollable like YT is. So hard to watch a 5 hour broadcast, with massive dead airs, without ability to jump back and forward 10 seconds or so - having to use the scroll bar is painful as when watching games you want to jump back 10-20 seconds every now and again
If you are going to have the coverage, you need someone sharp on editing to just get stuff sorted quickly. |  |
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 19:11 - Jul 30 with 3486 views | pennyfathersleg |
I can login on my ipad, Mac and phone fine. I can’t login on my TV browser. It’s a pretty new TV, so pretty up to date (it asks to confirm I’m human, but the ‘captcha’ doesn’t come up). I could login to iFollow on the TV and watched games fine, so it’s annoying I can’t with TownTV. I can plug my Mac into the TV, so it’s not a major issue, just an inconvenience. |  | | |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 19:36 - Jul 30 with 3428 views | SitfcB |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 18:50 - Jul 30 by itfcjoe |
No highlights of the last 3 friendlies available
No YouTube uploads since Hirst signing interview (how do we keep young/new fans engaged?)
And you can watch back the full broadcast from Innsbruck, but it includes the first hourish of just the holding screen - surely someone can cut that out, or put some edit points of when games are starting etc as it’s not easily scrollable like YT is. So hard to watch a 5 hour broadcast, with massive dead airs, without ability to jump back and forward 10 seconds or so - having to use the scroll bar is painful as when watching games you want to jump back 10-20 seconds every now and again
If you are going to have the coverage, you need someone sharp on editing to just get stuff sorted quickly. |
I don’t think the Luton, Cambridge and Stevenage games were filmed in their entirety, the goal clips got posted on social media though.
Yeah I think it was a bit of a rush job getting that full broadcast up, some people may not have known there was 35 mins of nothing, there is a 15 second skip button (forward and back) though, I watched it back but not the games so knew when to scroll through etc.
They want the hits to an ITFC site and not YouTube so suppose hardly anything will get uploaded directly to YT now. [Post edited 30 Jul 2023 19:37]
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 20:24 - Jul 30 with 3283 views | J2BLUE |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 16:52 - Jul 30 by Illinoisblue |
Haven’t subscribed yet mostly because Sunderland game will be on ESPN+ here and also annoyed at the lack of a season pass option. The club’s reasoning for not offering a season pass is because they’ll be offering content all year round. Literally defies all logic for the club to say that. The club haven’t got much wrong the last 18 months but on this they have. |
This regime has taken us off life support. If you subscribe after Sunderland it would be a 9 month subscription. Not being able to pay upfront is not really a big deal.
As for some of the other comments there was always going to be issues with it when it's first rolled out. I'm sure by Christmas it will be a lot better. |  |
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 21:11 - Jul 30 with 3169 views | LankHenners |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 18:47 - Jul 30 by 2-5-7 |
Commentary still not radio-friendly if the TV stream from the friendlies is being used. |
Yes the whole commentary issue is, and likely will continue to be, a source of contention for a lot of people. Said many times I don't rate it for a number of reasons. | |
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 21:14 - Jul 30 with 3153 views | itfcjoe |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 19:36 - Jul 30 by SitfcB |
I don’t think the Luton, Cambridge and Stevenage games were filmed in their entirety, the goal clips got posted on social media though.
Yeah I think it was a bit of a rush job getting that full broadcast up, some people may not have known there was 35 mins of nothing, there is a 15 second skip button (forward and back) though, I watched it back but not the games so knew when to scroll through etc.
They want the hits to an ITFC site and not YouTube so suppose hardly anything will get uploaded directly to YT now. [Post edited 30 Jul 2023 19:37]
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I didn't have the 15 second skip on desktop - may have been on tablet
I get wanting the hits on TownTv rather than YT, but ultimately YT needs to be used to drive content that way, even if it is only going on there after a delay - the YT channel needs the basics on it even if peppered with Town TV ads | |
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 21:18 - Jul 30 with 3128 views | michaeldownunder |
I watched the first game live in Austria at 11pm Oz time then rather than watch all the fluff between the games i switched off and went to bed for a while. It would not let me watch the 2nd game what ever I did. Logging on is no problem but getting onto the match site is a bit hit or miss some times. Cannot the 'live" button do what it says ? rather than send you back to the log in / subscribe page !!
Early days I know but maybe they should get a non tec person to try and use the site rather than someone with a degree in I know it all !!! Haha |  | | |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 21:23 - Jul 30 with 3084 views | wkj |
I do see a lot of talk on price, but is anyone that surprised? The EFL will still want to take their cut as if it was iFollow, plus the additional overhead for town involved. Put it like this, it was never going to be a cheaper consumer product. |  |
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 09:49 - Jul 31 with 2676 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Can you ONLY stream through the app? I.e is there any ability to stream through a browser?
TIA | | | |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 10:17 - Jul 31 with 2626 views | Naylorsrightboot |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 21:14 - Jul 30 by itfcjoe |
I didn't have the 15 second skip on desktop - may have been on tablet
I get wanting the hits on TownTv rather than YT, but ultimately YT needs to be used to drive content that way, even if it is only going on there after a delay - the YT channel needs the basics on it even if peppered with Town TV ads |
l had a fiddle with the app. Cant get it to work on my samsung tv. I wont watch games on a phone or laptop as the quality is rubbish and the screen is just too small, so lm doing without it lm afraid.
So some YT content would be good, like for instance an interview with Hutchinson etc. Not heard a word from him since he arrived, as l expect the interview is on Towntv. At least a delayed release of stuff like that should be released to YT, interviews etc. Even if there is no actual match action released on the YT platform. |  | | |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 10:41 - Jul 31 with 2559 views | mrfixit426 |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 09:49 - Jul 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Can you ONLY stream through the app? I.e is there any ability to stream through a browser?
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I streamed Friday through a browser - laptop - HDMI - tv. Dropped a few frames but worked ok. | | | |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 13:42 - Jul 31 with 2409 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 10:17 - Jul 31 by Naylorsrightboot |
l had a fiddle with the app. Cant get it to work on my samsung tv. I wont watch games on a phone or laptop as the quality is rubbish and the screen is just too small, so lm doing without it lm afraid.
So some YT content would be good, like for instance an interview with Hutchinson etc. Not heard a word from him since he arrived, as l expect the interview is on Towntv. At least a delayed release of stuff like that should be released to YT, interviews etc. Even if there is no actual match action released on the YT platform. |
Hutchinson interview is on Freemium on Town TV. |  |
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| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 15:01 - Jul 31 with 2295 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Town TV - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly on 16:57 - Jul 30 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Maybe I misread it. I thought they were doing a season pass for foreign subscribers?
£20 a month I thought? |
Plus it is 9/12 payments in a foreign currency, not one. Which is a annoying to sort. |  |
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