| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 09:28 - Sep 8 with 919 views | StokieBlue |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 09:11 - Sep 8 by Leaky |
Would be interesting to see what would happen, if an angry SUV owner catches a protester, in the act of fiddling around with his car. Wacked said protester with a baseball bat or other implement. What would happen. Is the car owner allowed to protect his property (he probably wouldn't know the protester was just letting air out of his tyre's) or SUV owner gets arrested. |
Of course you're not allowed to hit someone with a baseball bat if they are fiddling around with your car.
You call the police, this isn't the US.
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| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 09:41 - Sep 8 with 864 views | EdwardStone |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 09:11 - Sep 8 by Leaky |
Would be interesting to see what would happen, if an angry SUV owner catches a protester, in the act of fiddling around with his car. Wacked said protester with a baseball bat or other implement. What would happen. Is the car owner allowed to protect his property (he probably wouldn't know the protester was just letting air out of his tyre's) or SUV owner gets arrested. |
I think if you whack someone around the head with a baseball bat, you would stand a good chance of killing them
And then spending a considerable length of time in prison
Gung-ho vigilatism is not a great idea at any time or in any circumstance |  | | |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 09:59 - Sep 8 with 835 views | Seablu |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 20:52 - Sep 7 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Please link where this action has led to drivers being sacked from their job. What do you do if you have a hospital appointment and your car has a puncture or breaks down? Don't you use an alternative method of getting there?
You seem to be pushing an extreme and unlikely consequence and trying to use it to justify your position on this.
What do you think happens if we collectively continue to do nothing about climate change? |
He’s morphing into that Harry Enfield character that used to create ridiculous imaginary scenarios in his head to get very angry about.
‘If my wife started an affair with that bloke out of Emerson, Lake & Palmer, I’d be round his house like a flash. Oi, Palmer! Whilst I respect your part in the creation of numerous seminal rock classics..’
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| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 10:08 - Sep 8 with 824 views | giant_stow |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 09:59 - Sep 8 by Seablu |
He’s morphing into that Harry Enfield character that used to create ridiculous imaginary scenarios in his head to get very angry about.
‘If my wife started an affair with that bloke out of Emerson, Lake & Palmer, I’d be round his house like a flash. Oi, Palmer! Whilst I respect your part in the creation of numerous seminal rock classics..’
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You can see the guy got upset and is pretty down on life so why continue to stick it to him? Time to tuck away your language skills and be kind. |  |
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| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 10:38 - Sep 8 with 798 views | Leaky |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 09:22 - Sep 8 by leitrimblue |
Just wondering, whereabouts is your car parked at the moment Leaky? |
Sorry I don't own a car. I have a VW Caddy for work which also use for pleasure.
However my point raised about this whole SUV protest is that among my client list are a fair few who own BMW X5 Range Rover & the such like. The reason they own this type of vehicle is because they are rather large blokes, Tyson Fury size. They just don't fit in your average family saloon. Therefore anyone messing around a vehicle and the safety of a vehicle may need reflect who they may encounter. |  | | |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 11:31 - Sep 8 with 770 views | monytowbray |
I see the Guardian's GammonBait piece hooked a rent free room in the heads of a few posters.
Wonder when they'll cotton on there's a reason behind these protests much larger and more pressing than the actions? Hoped the penny would drop after the energy price rises post Insulate Britain during an awful heat wave and weather disasters but apparently not. |  |
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| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 11:33 - Sep 8 with 773 views | leitrimblue |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 10:38 - Sep 8 by Leaky |
Sorry I don't own a car. I have a VW Caddy for work which also use for pleasure.
However my point raised about this whole SUV protest is that among my client list are a fair few who own BMW X5 Range Rover & the such like. The reason they own this type of vehicle is because they are rather large blokes, Tyson Fury size. They just don't fit in your average family saloon. Therefore anyone messing around a vehicle and the safety of a vehicle may need reflect who they may encounter. |
Argh, come on, think we all know their mainly driven by yummy mummies. Obviously I feel their pain of these poor big lads. I'm a rather large bloke myself, but I still manage to squeeze myself into a normal size car so I'm sure they would be OK if they really tried |  | | |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 11:37 - Sep 8 with 766 views | monytowbray |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 10:38 - Sep 8 by Leaky |
Sorry I don't own a car. I have a VW Caddy for work which also use for pleasure.
However my point raised about this whole SUV protest is that among my client list are a fair few who own BMW X5 Range Rover & the such like. The reason they own this type of vehicle is because they are rather large blokes, Tyson Fury size. They just don't fit in your average family saloon. Therefore anyone messing around a vehicle and the safety of a vehicle may need reflect who they may encounter. |
Does your work know you’ve been knobbing the exhaust on their vehicle?! | |
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| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 12:06 - Sep 8 with 722 views | the_toff |
Why has this thread has caused so much backlash? Regardless of the rights and wrongs and people's right to protest, it probably is an arrestable offence. Whether letting someones tyres down is specifically an offence in itself or more broadly it would meet the definition of a public nuisance offence.
There are other ways to make a point that don't involve inconveniencing ordinary people. Some people have even reported having their Hybrid and Electric SUV's targteted which tells you how moronic some of these protestors are.
I wonder how many of the posters jumping up and down on this thread drive gas guzzlers to get them to their favourite steak houses, the hypocrites. |  | | |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 12:56 - Sep 8 with 677 views | MattinLondon |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 12:06 - Sep 8 by the_toff |
Why has this thread has caused so much backlash? Regardless of the rights and wrongs and people's right to protest, it probably is an arrestable offence. Whether letting someones tyres down is specifically an offence in itself or more broadly it would meet the definition of a public nuisance offence.
There are other ways to make a point that don't involve inconveniencing ordinary people. Some people have even reported having their Hybrid and Electric SUV's targteted which tells you how moronic some of these protestors are.
I wonder how many of the posters jumping up and down on this thread drive gas guzzlers to get them to their favourite steak houses, the hypocrites. |
If you don’t inconvenience people then nothing will get done. People have known that the planet is dying for decades but nothing real has been done. ‘Here take a leaflet on climate change’. Yeah, that approach has served the environment well. |  | | |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 13:09 - Sep 8 with 647 views | Mookamoo |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 11:33 - Sep 8 by leitrimblue |
Argh, come on, think we all know their mainly driven by yummy mummies. Obviously I feel their pain of these poor big lads. I'm a rather large bloke myself, but I still manage to squeeze myself into a normal size car so I'm sure they would be OK if they really tried |
Had a fun conversation with a yummy mummy type this morning who started having a go because she couldn't get into her Range Rover Sport while it was parked next to my knackered Renault Scenic. I'm 6 foot and have had far too many biscuits - she was 5' 5" ish.
She didn't take kindly to the suggestion she gets a normal sized car and it would fit just fine.
The argument I often hear is they want their family to be safe and need a Range Rover/Discovery sized car in order to achieve that. I don't think they have ever considered what would happen to someone else's child should they get in their way. |  | | |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 13:20 - Sep 8 with 634 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 13:09 - Sep 8 by Mookamoo |
Had a fun conversation with a yummy mummy type this morning who started having a go because she couldn't get into her Range Rover Sport while it was parked next to my knackered Renault Scenic. I'm 6 foot and have had far too many biscuits - she was 5' 5" ish.
She didn't take kindly to the suggestion she gets a normal sized car and it would fit just fine.
The argument I often hear is they want their family to be safe and need a Range Rover/Discovery sized car in order to achieve that. I don't think they have ever considered what would happen to someone else's child should they get in their way. |
Or for that matter what would happen if they met someone driving as fast as them in the middle of the road coming the other way. |  |
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| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 13:27 - Sep 8 with 618 views | monytowbray |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 21:13 - Sep 7 by BanksterDebtSlave |
"I’m dying on the hill for the right for people to get through a day in this dreadfully sh**ty world that nobody really wants to be on but are just stuck in a life of existence until we eventually get the relief of death without having some tw*t making it worse on purpose."
Rommers, I am genuinely sorry that you are seeing the World like this at the moment...it is a feeling I have been all too familiar with at times in my life. I imagine many of the people carrying out the acts you disapprove off feel the same and are trying to make the World a more appealing place to exist. Hopefully you can find your own way of doing the same.
Hope you are ok fella xox |
Individual choices will make the world a better place. We no longer have a free pass to be ignorant to the future or how we contribute to issues.
We have more power in our wallets than we do the ballot. No politicians near power have answers and no corporations/billionaires are interested in losing money implementing the answers.
The world is rubbish, but plenty of posters have forewarned where the world was heading and were called reactionaries or overruled by mob mentality.
In that regard it's a real shame Rommers feels that way, but some of us have felt it for years and have been trying to explain where the issues are. Instead we carry on getting annoyed by those trying to shake humanity out of a coma towards extinction - one that will be slow and result in endless suffering.
I don't think the short term convenience of materialism and consumption is worth the trade off. On the plus side, looking at these threads, it does appear the wider consensus now agrees. Silver linings. | |
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| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 13:37 - Sep 8 with 608 views | EdwardStone |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 12:06 - Sep 8 by the_toff |
Why has this thread has caused so much backlash? Regardless of the rights and wrongs and people's right to protest, it probably is an arrestable offence. Whether letting someones tyres down is specifically an offence in itself or more broadly it would meet the definition of a public nuisance offence.
There are other ways to make a point that don't involve inconveniencing ordinary people. Some people have even reported having their Hybrid and Electric SUV's targteted which tells you how moronic some of these protestors are.
I wonder how many of the posters jumping up and down on this thread drive gas guzzlers to get them to their favourite steak houses, the hypocrites. |
Top Trolling Mr Toff
"Driving their gas guzzlers to their favourite steak house"
Arf-tastic nonsense | | | |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 13:50 - Sep 8 with 570 views | the_toff |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 13:37 - Sep 8 by EdwardStone |
Top Trolling Mr Toff
"Driving their gas guzzlers to their favourite steak house"
Arf-tastic nonsense |
You keep grilling cows on your summer BBQ’s while denouncing people with big cars.
Arf-tastic | | | |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:14 - Sep 8 with 557 views | Kievthegreat |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 20:20 - Sep 7 by MattinLondon |
Last month there was a segment on ‘Newsnight’ about this. Many of the car owners were angry as their SUV was electric and significantly more environmentally friendly than many other cars. |
Couldn't find the newsnight footage, but there was a C4 report and that had someone complaining as their car was a hybrid. Issue is, Hybrid covers a huge range of options. It can cover an otherwise normal car that has a very small battery to use at low speed (saving a few MPG) to a plug in hybrid that can drive for 50+ miles on electric and never drink any petrol.
The former emissions saving could more easily be gained by just driving a smaller car, so IMO shouldn't be seen as a solution. It's just a stop gap measure until electric becomes the norm. The later is better than a pure petrol car, but still far inferior emissions to a BEV emissions wise, especially once you get into long journeys when you've drained the battery. |  | | |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:25 - Sep 8 with 543 views | monytowbray |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 13:50 - Sep 8 by the_toff |
You keep grilling cows on your summer BBQ’s while denouncing people with big cars.
Arf-tastic |
What about me as a vegan who hasn’t had a car since no longer needing one for work?
Can I personally tell you to shut up and stop being a bellend from a pedestal? Seeing as that appears to be your only argument. | |
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| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:29 - Sep 8 with 533 views | monytowbray |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:14 - Sep 8 by Kievthegreat |
Couldn't find the newsnight footage, but there was a C4 report and that had someone complaining as their car was a hybrid. Issue is, Hybrid covers a huge range of options. It can cover an otherwise normal car that has a very small battery to use at low speed (saving a few MPG) to a plug in hybrid that can drive for 50+ miles on electric and never drink any petrol.
The former emissions saving could more easily be gained by just driving a smaller car, so IMO shouldn't be seen as a solution. It's just a stop gap measure until electric becomes the norm. The later is better than a pure petrol car, but still far inferior emissions to a BEV emissions wise, especially once you get into long journeys when you've drained the battery. |
Hybrid cars and the marketing around them is a form of greenwashing and misleading the consumer.
And also a privilege. You need money to own one. Until they are universally affordable through the second hand market to all car owners, as well as the infrastructure grants at home/in public to charge them on self-sufficient or renewable energy, it’s all a bit of a con. | |
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| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:33 - Sep 8 with 516 views | the_toff |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:25 - Sep 8 by monytowbray |
What about me as a vegan who hasn’t had a car since no longer needing one for work?
Can I personally tell you to shut up and stop being a bellend from a pedestal? Seeing as that appears to be your only argument. |
Nice bit of virtue signalling there fella. Have a sticker. | | | |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:34 - Sep 8 with 515 views | giant_stow |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:29 - Sep 8 by monytowbray |
Hybrid cars and the marketing around them is a form of greenwashing and misleading the consumer.
And also a privilege. You need money to own one. Until they are universally affordable through the second hand market to all car owners, as well as the infrastructure grants at home/in public to charge them on self-sufficient or renewable energy, it’s all a bit of a con. |
I can actually see your point there, until the 'bit of con' bit at the bottom. New tech is always initially expensive and has to start somewhere and then improve. Certainly, as a semi-skint person, I'm fine with my cheap petrol 15 year old car as a next best option: use and re-use and all that... | |
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| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:36 - Sep 8 with 510 views | monytowbray |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:33 - Sep 8 by the_toff |
Nice bit of virtue signalling there fella. Have a sticker. |
Hey, it was your argument and point. You brought it up. You presented it as the GOTCHA moment it really wasn’t.
I’ll take the sticker and raise you a self-awareness gold star. | |
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| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:41 - Sep 8 with 488 views | monytowbray |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:34 - Sep 8 by giant_stow |
I can actually see your point there, until the 'bit of con' bit at the bottom. New tech is always initially expensive and has to start somewhere and then improve. Certainly, as a semi-skint person, I'm fine with my cheap petrol 15 year old car as a next best option: use and re-use and all that... |
Some things are bigger than profit and require urgent action. We should have initiatives and grants to roll out these things faster if they are going to be part of the solution. We also need to then support developing nations in adapting fast and ensure the energy charging them is green (not more fossil fuel burning that is out of sight/mind.
The market cannot innovate when all capital to innovate is in the hands of a select few who prioritise commercial space travel for the rich/themselves and unlikely fantasies of being King of Mars over saving the blue dot we’ll almost certainly be stuck on as it burns. | |
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| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:45 - Sep 8 with 472 views | the_toff |
| ‘The Tyre Extuingishers’ on 14:36 - Sep 8 by monytowbray |
Hey, it was your argument and point. You brought it up. You presented it as the GOTCHA moment it really wasn’t.
I’ll take the sticker and raise you a self-awareness gold star. |
Nope no ‘gotcha’ moment. Just pointing out the hypocrisy in lauding climate change protestors for their actions, defending them targeting innocent civilians in what is almost certainly a criminal act, because of their car (despite not knowing any of the circumstances around why they drive that car). As I said in my first post I dare say many of those being so vocal have no idea of their impact on the planet. They’re probably also driving gas guzzlers and consuming unfriendly products regularly.
Be the change you want to see I say. People are quick to judge but much slower to practice what they preach. | | | |
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