| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? 10:17 - Nov 17 with 15699 views | Mullet |
After those sweaty revelations and the like, is it not yet another indicator that whilst we have had nearly a decade of Tory led impoverishment, that we need to act?
We could easily sort this country this election. Vote in Corbyn, and he can keep us in Europe (a nod to the royals after all) and nationalise all the land, houses, corgis and use the taxes to pay for broadband and hospitals.
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 19:26 - Nov 18 with 1235 views | jeera |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 19:15 - Nov 18 by Dubtractor |
Nah, you forget, HRH was just TOO honourable. It's an admiral fault all things considered. |
When I was growing up he was always in the press for the wrong reasons.
Known as a playboy and a liar from what I recall, and had to be reigned in a few times.
I wasn't being flippant - I sometimes get sick of some of the news floating about I switch off a bit and then find myself playing catch-up.
I've seen Lanners post and can see the fuss and suggestion of further implications. |  |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 19:54 - Nov 18 with 1199 views | Darth_Koont |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 18:50 - Nov 18 by jeera |
I'm not read on the subject.
I can see what people are saying about the black outline though - it's like dark matter has met a Ready Brek advert.
But I'm unsure of the significance of the photo. Has Pr. Andrew denied meeting her, or having sex with her? If she was of age and consenting that's irrelevant anyway.
The matter is one of trafficking isn't it? Exploitation?
If they (he, Epstein and others) were passing girls around for financial incentives then that's a big problem. I realise Epstein was an offender, but that doesn't make Andrew one just by association and being a complete tosser isn't against the law unfortunately.
What is the claim please? I've read too much other stuff recently to be up on this as well. |
Re: the dark matter, it's just the shadow from the flash isn't it?
Here's an example where the guy got rid of it on the right using a flash bounce to make sure the light hit the wall behind too.
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 20:00 - Nov 18 with 1187 views | jeera |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 19:54 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
Re: the dark matter, it's just the shadow from the flash isn't it?
Here's an example where the guy got rid of it on the right using a flash bounce to make sure the light hit the wall behind too.
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Ok that's interesting too. I see what you're saying.
I was keen to know what the significance was but a quick search showed that the world had moved on and I was expected to know what was going on. Which is fair enough, but I've had other things going on so am not up to speed.
I see where people are coming from.
Like I say, you're a similar age group to me so will remember him being a 'partying' type years ago, getting around and making a name for himself, taking advantage of his position. This is coming back to bite eh. | |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 20:18 - Nov 18 with 1160 views | Darth_Koont |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 20:00 - Nov 18 by jeera |
Ok that's interesting too. I see what you're saying.
I was keen to know what the significance was but a quick search showed that the world had moved on and I was expected to know what was going on. Which is fair enough, but I've had other things going on so am not up to speed.
I see where people are coming from.
Like I say, you're a similar age group to me so will remember him being a 'partying' type years ago, getting around and making a name for himself, taking advantage of his position. This is coming back to bite eh. |
Yes, but being in the vicinity of Epstein and his little black book on a few occasions would have put Andrew slap bang in this type of situation. Epstein literally had prostitutes and young hangers-on lined up in every city he regularly visited.
I'd be slightly surprised if he didn't have an idea of what Epstein was like and how he liked to socialise. | |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 20:35 - Nov 18 with 1135 views | Mullet |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 19:14 - Nov 18 by LankHenners |
Andrew claims to have zero knowledge/recollection of the woman in question at all, which contradicts the photographic evidence of him having met her. There is also flight log data confirming the pair of them were at the same places at the same time.
Given she alleges she was groomed and trafficked by Epstein and Maxwell, the issue of 'consent' seems to become rather blurred. I'm not sure what the specific crime is in those circumstances (if there is one), but questions have to be asked about anyone who associated with a sex trafficking paedophile pre and post conviction. |
It would have been easier to say something like "I have my photo taken with loads of people" and more believable than his ambling tosh. He'd have seemed no more arrogant either. | |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:01 - Nov 18 with 1111 views | Ryorry |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 18:24 - Nov 18 by jaykay |
no expert so don't one way or another but the black line running across the windowsill is that not the night. as it looks like a sash window ,a little bit open. |
I think you misunderstood what I meant - I was referring to the line running vertically, not horizontally, down from her left armpit and then between her hand and her hip. |  |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:11 - Nov 18 with 1102 views | Ryorry |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 19:54 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
Re: the dark matter, it's just the shadow from the flash isn't it?
Here's an example where the guy got rid of it on the right using a flash bounce to make sure the light hit the wall behind too.
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No, that just doesn't stack up to me -
1. it doesn't explain the gap between her left hand and her hip
2. the same thick black line is showing around her head - but she's against the background of the window there, and a shadow wouldn't be reflected onto that
3. The shadow in your example shows fuzziness around the top edge, whereas the definition of the black line in the PA photo is absolutely precise - it's a line, not a shadow. Well to my eyes anyway, but as I said, I'm no expert. | |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:32 - Nov 18 with 1076 views | Ryorry |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:11 - Nov 18 by Ryorry |
No, that just doesn't stack up to me -
1. it doesn't explain the gap between her left hand and her hip
2. the same thick black line is showing around her head - but she's against the background of the window there, and a shadow wouldn't be reflected onto that
3. The shadow in your example shows fuzziness around the top edge, whereas the definition of the black line in the PA photo is absolutely precise - it's a line, not a shadow. Well to my eyes anyway, but as I said, I'm no expert. |
Hello vipour trail, your life still so lacking that you need to keep getting your kicks from downvoting me then  | |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:37 - Nov 18 with 1068 views | footers |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:32 - Nov 18 by Ryorry |
Hello vipour trail, your life still so lacking that you need to keep getting your kicks from downvoting me then |
It is a bit odd you trying to discredit the picture on such minutiae instead of just accepting the bloke did it, tbf. |  |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:41 - Nov 18 with 1049 views | Ryorry |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:37 - Nov 18 by footers |
It is a bit odd you trying to discredit the picture on such minutiae instead of just accepting the bloke did it, tbf. |
Funnily enough, I find it a bit odd that you're prepared to be judge, jury & condemn someone on the basis of one dodgy photo. | |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:43 - Nov 18 with 1044 views | Darth_Koont |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:11 - Nov 18 by Ryorry |
No, that just doesn't stack up to me -
1. it doesn't explain the gap between her left hand and her hip
2. the same thick black line is showing around her head - but she's against the background of the window there, and a shadow wouldn't be reflected onto that
3. The shadow in your example shows fuzziness around the top edge, whereas the definition of the black line in the PA photo is absolutely precise - it's a line, not a shadow. Well to my eyes anyway, but as I said, I'm no expert. |
Why would anyone leave a gap if it was photoshopped in?
My 14-year old could have done a better job of hiding a gap. But it’s not a gap, it’s shadow from the flash. | |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:44 - Nov 18 with 1036 views | Ryorry |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:43 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
Why would anyone leave a gap if it was photoshopped in?
My 14-year old could have done a better job of hiding a gap. But it’s not a gap, it’s shadow from the flash. |
We'll have to agree to disagree then! | |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:45 - Nov 18 with 1033 views | Dubtractor |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:41 - Nov 18 by Ryorry |
Funnily enough, I find it a bit odd that you're prepared to be judge, jury & condemn someone on the basis of one dodgy photo. |
You're being a bit odd on this.
It isn't about one dodgy photo. Its about the fact that he has been a long term buddy who regularly stayed at his gaff too, even after he knew that he was a wrongun. All that compounded by that awful interview at the weekend with his piss weak excuses and alibis. |  |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:45 - Nov 18 with 1030 views | lowhouseblue |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:43 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
Why would anyone leave a gap if it was photoshopped in?
My 14-year old could have done a better job of hiding a gap. But it’s not a gap, it’s shadow from the flash. |
would you get that deep a shadow when the flash is coming off the window behind - wouldn't that make the shadow lighter? just asking, i'm not a photographer. |  |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:46 - Nov 18 with 1026 views | vapour_trail |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:32 - Nov 18 by Ryorry |
Hello vipour trail, your life still so lacking that you need to keep getting your kicks from downvoting me then |
Sorry?
No “kicks”. I think you’re talking sh1t. Hence the downvote. |  |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:48 - Nov 18 with 1017 views | footers |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:41 - Nov 18 by Ryorry |
Funnily enough, I find it a bit odd that you're prepared to be judge, jury & condemn someone on the basis of one dodgy photo. |
It's not on the basis of one dodgy photo. The bloke's been known to be into that sort of shenanigans for about 20 years.
Still, Michael Jackson was never done for it either, so I guess there's that too. | |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:51 - Nov 18 with 1002 views | Ryorry |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:45 - Nov 18 by Dubtractor |
You're being a bit odd on this.
It isn't about one dodgy photo. Its about the fact that he has been a long term buddy who regularly stayed at his gaff too, even after he knew that he was a wrongun. All that compounded by that awful interview at the weekend with his piss weak excuses and alibis. |
I was simply looking at the main piece of "evidence" that some people on twitter were using as their basis for finding him guilty, and asked on here what others with experience re photo-shopping thought.
I agree with what Warky (who says he uses it all the time) said, and was not making, nor intended to make, any other reference to what may or may not have been PA's participation in what were pretty disgusting crimes. | |
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| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:54 - Nov 18 with 987 views | vapour_trail |
| Surely time to do away with the Windsors now? on 21:48 - Nov 18 by footers |
It's not on the basis of one dodgy photo. The bloke's been known to be into that sort of shenanigans for about 20 years.
Still, Michael Jackson was never done for it either, so I guess there's that too. |
Next up.
Jimmy Savile. The ultimate conspiracy. | |
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