| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam 10:37 - Jun 5 with 1993 views | SimonCleggsNeck |
Has Flynn shown more promise than Luke did at his stage of his career? |  |
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 10:40 - Jun 5 with 1971 views | BiGDonnie |
I've always thought we held Hyam back trying to get him to play further forward. He's a harrier and that's it. Energy and strong in the tackle, would have done thrice the job Skuse has over the years. |  |
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 10:42 - Jun 5 with 1958 views | TractorCam |
Most definitely. |  |
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 10:45 - Jun 5 with 1943 views | clive_baker |
I think Downes is technically a better football than Hyam. Hyam was an ankle biter and put himself about a bit, and there's always some fans that let him off because he flies in late to a tackle in the centre circle to pick up a yellow. 'He's one of our own' and all that, but he never really looked like a Championship player to me. Didn't create a lot, offered little going forward and defensively he flattered to deceive - positioning wasn't great and nor was his use of the ball. Couple that with his injury record and it's no surprise he couldn't kick on here. I wish him luck but if I were a betting man I wouldn't think he'll ever play at that level again. Downes has more potential, I would really like to see him playing further forward and given licence to get forward because I think he's a pretty smart footballer and could in time be the goal scoring midfielder we've lacked for a long time. |  |
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 11:02 - Jun 5 with 1882 views | ParisBlue |
| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 10:45 - Jun 5 by clive_baker |
I think Downes is technically a better football than Hyam. Hyam was an ankle biter and put himself about a bit, and there's always some fans that let him off because he flies in late to a tackle in the centre circle to pick up a yellow. 'He's one of our own' and all that, but he never really looked like a Championship player to me. Didn't create a lot, offered little going forward and defensively he flattered to deceive - positioning wasn't great and nor was his use of the ball. Couple that with his injury record and it's no surprise he couldn't kick on here. I wish him luck but if I were a betting man I wouldn't think he'll ever play at that level again. Downes has more potential, I would really like to see him playing further forward and given licence to get forward because I think he's a pretty smart footballer and could in time be the goal scoring midfielder we've lacked for a long time. |
He was very good for the first 3-4 months of the 14/15 season before his injury at Charlton at the end of November.
The 1-0 win at home to Watford is one of my favourite memories of the MM era and he was excellent that day. Really tough game, 1-0 win, and sadly the beginning of Jonny Williams injuries after being taken out by a Watford defender. |  |
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 13:07 - Jun 5 with 1710 views | BryanPlug |
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 13:11 - Jun 5 with 1682 views | flimflam |
Downes is superior to Hyam in every way possible. |  |
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 13:40 - Jun 5 with 1641 views | itfcjoe |
He has shown more, evidence by being in the England squads when they are very technical teams.
I think Hyam was a bit underrated here, he had the drive that would often set the standards and pull the team with it - but he wasn't technically good enough to really kick on with it. Great energy, covered the pitch brilliantly and always in position to receive an easy ball and relieve the pressure from a team mate - unfortunately that meant he was then on the ball and not able to use it as well as he needed to |  |
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 13:42 - Jun 5 with 1631 views | unstableblue |
Flynn has only really 'owned' a couple of games... and if I contrast those with Hyam's better performances (which were sporadic, and to be fair to him in a dysfunctional centre mid player selection), e.g. Wigan away some years back - Downes is by far the better player in terms of passing range, vision and technical execution. |  |
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 13:51 - Jun 5 with 1606 views | ActionMan |
Hyam was a classic Ipswich decent average player for us. He could probably feel a touch hard done by in getting released and seeing what was signed to replace him and the inevitable result of those poor decisions. Downes has a way to go, but I like what I see so far/. |  | | |
| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 13:53 - Jun 5 with 1600 views | BigManBlue |
Downes is definitely better from a technical perspective, and I think that (hopefully) being in a team that isn't generally pummeled/overrun in the middle of the park every week he can really start to push on. |  |
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 13:53 - Jun 5 with 1600 views | GlasgowBlue |
I'd say Hyam was ahead of Downes. He had that very good spell under Keane when we started the 2010 season brilliantly before getting injured and when Jewell brought him back he was a very important player for us. I still remember him bossing the midfield when we beat West Ham 5-1.
Downes can eclipse Hyam though if he stays injury free. [Post edited 5 Jun 2019 13:55]
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 13:57 - Jun 5 with 1582 views | ActionMan |
| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 13:53 - Jun 5 by GlasgowBlue |
I'd say Hyam was ahead of Downes. He had that very good spell under Keane when we started the 2010 season brilliantly before getting injured and when Jewell brought him back he was a very important player for us. I still remember him bossing the midfield when we beat West Ham 5-1.
Downes can eclipse Hyam though if he stays injury free. [Post edited 5 Jun 2019 13:55]
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Who remembers Tom Eastman and Shane O'Connor? Two others Keane brought into the first team! | | | |
| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 14:00 - Jun 5 with 1572 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 10:40 - Jun 5 by BiGDonnie |
I've always thought we held Hyam back trying to get him to play further forward. He's a harrier and that's it. Energy and strong in the tackle, would have done thrice the job Skuse has over the years. |
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 14:22 - Jun 5 with 1522 views | BiGDonnie |
Keano was always telling us he could and should play further forward when it was clear he had less technical ability than Mowbray. | |
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| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 15:33 - Jun 5 with 1438 views | ParisBlue |
| Flynn Downes v Luke Hyam on 13:53 - Jun 5 by BigManBlue |
Downes is definitely better from a technical perspective, and I think that (hopefully) being in a team that isn't generally pummeled/overrun in the middle of the park every week he can really start to push on. |
Downes definitely has more potential. Hopefully we see that fulfilled next season. Big year for him.
I recall Alex Ferguson talking about John O'Shea becoming a man (from a boy, not after transgender surgery) over the summer months and at that point becoming a regular first team player. Hopefully we see similar. | |
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