| Absolutely ridiculous decision. 21:53 - Mar 6 with 10097 views | Superblue95 |
I don’t particularly like PSG and I actually don’t mind United at all but what a f*cking joke that is to give that penalty |  |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:38 - Mar 6 with 2583 views | TractorCam |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:01 - Mar 6 by Superblue95 |
How can you give a penalty?
Was it deliberate? No
Was the shot going in? No
One of the most ridiculous penalty decisions I’ve seen in a long time. Football is broken |
It really makes a mockery out of the sport when not a single soul appeals for a penalty, but some weapon in a box who's viewing all sorts of replays waves a red flag.
The referee reviews the incident himself, and has watched it at least 7/8 times. Therefore after about 3 views, he is clearly not sure and should not be giving a penalty and just play on as he first signalled for a corner. Instead after 8 views he decides to point to the spot, meaning the referee who made a normal decision has actually watched a replay and now given the wrong decision, all this which takes 4 minutes of players/fans just standing around.
Can't believe any person has backed VAR and wants to see it. |  |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:40 - Mar 6 with 2575 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:11 - Mar 6 by Superblue95 |
Only in football could technology come in and actually make the decision makers make worse decisions |
Actually when the review system first came in for cricket it made the thing a farce.
They quickly refined it, brought in the "umpire's call" option and it is now much better than before. I would suggest it has improved the quality of umpiring too because they are rapidly shown to have made a mistake if they get it wrong. |  |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:43 - Mar 6 with 2565 views | Superblue95 |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:38 - Mar 6 by TractorCam |
It really makes a mockery out of the sport when not a single soul appeals for a penalty, but some weapon in a box who's viewing all sorts of replays waves a red flag.
The referee reviews the incident himself, and has watched it at least 7/8 times. Therefore after about 3 views, he is clearly not sure and should not be giving a penalty and just play on as he first signalled for a corner. Instead after 8 views he decides to point to the spot, meaning the referee who made a normal decision has actually watched a replay and now given the wrong decision, all this which takes 4 minutes of players/fans just standing around.
Can't believe any person has backed VAR and wants to see it. |
This is pretty spot on | |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:53 - Mar 6 with 2542 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
I feel that this thread is going down a bit of a cul-de-sac!...............
............Phil! |  |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 23:24 - Mar 6 with 2514 views | RobTheMonk |
Personally, I think it's very harsh. He's turning away and his arm is going back into his body. There's still some ambiguity as to what is a hand ball. |  | | |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 23:37 - Mar 6 with 2510 views | ReusersTown |
Is nobody looking at the defenders face!. He saw the ball coming and made himself bigger by leaving his arm out! |  | | |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 00:32 - Mar 7 with 2484 views | StirlingArcher |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:38 - Mar 6 by TractorCam |
It really makes a mockery out of the sport when not a single soul appeals for a penalty, but some weapon in a box who's viewing all sorts of replays waves a red flag.
The referee reviews the incident himself, and has watched it at least 7/8 times. Therefore after about 3 views, he is clearly not sure and should not be giving a penalty and just play on as he first signalled for a corner. Instead after 8 views he decides to point to the spot, meaning the referee who made a normal decision has actually watched a replay and now given the wrong decision, all this which takes 4 minutes of players/fans just standing around.
Can't believe any person has backed VAR and wants to see it. |
But the United players ARE appealing for it...
watch the highlights, they are all pointing to their arms
The defender turned his body but left the arm where he knew the ball would be
the ball hit his arm and under the interpretation of the law, penalty.
Final point - doesn't matter a jot if it was going wide or not |  | | |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 02:25 - Mar 7 with 2461 views | MrTown |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:01 - Mar 6 by Superblue95 |
How can you give a penalty?
Was it deliberate? No
Was the shot going in? No
One of the most ridiculous penalty decisions I’ve seen in a long time. Football is broken |
Football is broken...
Tonight a team went out of the tournament that is owned by a state, spends ludicrous amounts of money evidentially not with in the barriers of FFP, paying over £250m on 2 players in a single transfer window competing in a League they win every year by Christmas.
Tonight they played in there special kit because of promotional contract deals to Nike Jordan they have on there logo instead of their home kit.
United have 10 first team players missing through injury and finished the game with 2 academy graduates in Chong and Greenwood who played in one of the greatest European nights in Man Utd history with a 93rd minute goal to win the tie.
That’s not football broke , that’s why we love football! |  |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 06:18 - Mar 7 with 2430 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Amazed some people think that was actually the correct decision. Absolute shocker |  |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 07:52 - Mar 7 with 2364 views | m14_blue |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 06:18 - Mar 7 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Amazed some people think that was actually the correct decision. Absolute shocker |
It’s insane. A nothing incident like that shouldn’t decide the game.
There seems to be some debate about what the rules say but, if that is the rule, then it’s a joke. The whole joy of football is that goals are so hard to come by, a speculative shot, nowhere near on target, that just happens to catch someone’s arm should not be the deciding factor.
Delighted for United though, I actually like them under Ole, which is an odd feeling. | | | |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 08:10 - Mar 7 with 2337 views | chicoazul |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:00 - Mar 6 by Trequartista |
V.A.R. is the final death of football, along with this garbage from the other game
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Pepe should be punished at every opportunity though. |  |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 08:17 - Mar 7 with 2325 views | Herbivore |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:01 - Mar 6 by Superblue95 |
How can you give a penalty?
Was it deliberate? No
Was the shot going in? No
One of the most ridiculous penalty decisions I’ve seen in a long time. Football is broken |
Whether it was going in or not isn't relevant. |  |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 08:33 - Mar 7 with 2307 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 07:52 - Mar 7 by m14_blue |
It’s insane. A nothing incident like that shouldn’t decide the game.
There seems to be some debate about what the rules say but, if that is the rule, then it’s a joke. The whole joy of football is that goals are so hard to come by, a speculative shot, nowhere near on target, that just happens to catch someone’s arm should not be the deciding factor.
Delighted for United though, I actually like them under Ole, which is an odd feeling. |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 08:39 - Mar 7 with 2295 views | itfc48 |
VAR is there to eradicate howlers, therefore, I think the referee/panel should get one replay at full speed. | | | |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 08:47 - Mar 7 with 2284 views | BiGDonnie |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:13 - Mar 6 by Darth_Koont |
Agreed but it was still a penalty given he blocked it with his arm out and far enough away for him to have brought his arm in.
It was turning his back that was the problem for him as it left his arm hanging out when he didn't know where the ball was.
But them's the rules. |
He knew exactly what he was doing IMO. Turn your back and keep your arm high so you can plead innocence if it does hit your arm/hand. Definite penalty. |  |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 08:49 - Mar 7 with 2279 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:01 - Mar 6 by Superblue95 |
How can you give a penalty?
Was it deliberate? No
Was the shot going in? No
One of the most ridiculous penalty decisions I’ve seen in a long time. Football is broken |
Why does it matter if the shot was going in? Makes zero difference. |  |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 08:56 - Mar 7 with 2271 views | No9 |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 22:01 - Mar 6 by Superblue95 |
How can you give a penalty?
Was it deliberate? No
Was the shot going in? No
One of the most ridiculous penalty decisions I’ve seen in a long time. Football is broken |
'Interesting' ref decisons have payed a major part in the revival of MU since Mourino departed
Just as if Ferguson has had a word in someones ear? | | | |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:10 - Mar 7 with 2248 views | Superblue95 |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 08:17 - Mar 7 by Herbivore |
Whether it was going in or not isn't relevant. |
Perhaps not in the official ruling but surely using common sense it should be relevant? It was a desperate, speculative effort that was going to sail into the stand. Defender panicked and thought he better try and block it so jumps in the way, ball brushes off elbow and goes out for a corner. He didn’t block it with his arm deliberately so surely he should only then be penalised if it prevents a goal or a goal scoring opportunity, which it didn’t.
Only my opinion of course but that’s how I think the handball rule should be applied otherwise it’s incredibly harsh | |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:11 - Mar 7 with 2241 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:10 - Mar 7 by Superblue95 |
Perhaps not in the official ruling but surely using common sense it should be relevant? It was a desperate, speculative effort that was going to sail into the stand. Defender panicked and thought he better try and block it so jumps in the way, ball brushes off elbow and goes out for a corner. He didn’t block it with his arm deliberately so surely he should only then be penalised if it prevents a goal or a goal scoring opportunity, which it didn’t.
Only my opinion of course but that’s how I think the handball rule should be applied otherwise it’s incredibly harsh |
Not a single word of that makes sense. A handball is a foul, no matter where on the pitch it is.
If it happens to be in your own penalty box, then it's a penalty. End of story. | |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:13 - Mar 7 with 2240 views | Radlett_blue |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 07:52 - Mar 7 by m14_blue |
It’s insane. A nothing incident like that shouldn’t decide the game.
There seems to be some debate about what the rules say but, if that is the rule, then it’s a joke. The whole joy of football is that goals are so hard to come by, a speculative shot, nowhere near on target, that just happens to catch someone’s arm should not be the deciding factor.
Delighted for United though, I actually like them under Ole, which is an odd feeling. |
The rules makers have been looking at handball & how it is interpreted. No defender "deliberately" handles the ball unless it's about to go into an unguarded goal so I understand why. I also understand the previous protocol whereby a referee should take into account distance from the ball & speed of the ball as to whether he had "allowed" his arm to block a shot or cross. I believe the new interpretation will lead to MORE penalties being given for handball, which I think is a terrible idea, as in most of these cases, it is highly unlikely that a goal would have resulted. If this leads to more games being decided by VAR decisions such as last night, the game will be the loser as a result. |  |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:15 - Mar 7 with 2235 views | itfcjoe |
Thought VAR was supposed to correct 'clear and obvious' mistakes.
That wasn't one, was never a penalty - what was he supposed to do with his arms when he jumped? Tuck them into his shorts? |  |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:18 - Mar 7 with 2229 views | itfcjoe |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:13 - Mar 7 by Radlett_blue |
The rules makers have been looking at handball & how it is interpreted. No defender "deliberately" handles the ball unless it's about to go into an unguarded goal so I understand why. I also understand the previous protocol whereby a referee should take into account distance from the ball & speed of the ball as to whether he had "allowed" his arm to block a shot or cross. I believe the new interpretation will lead to MORE penalties being given for handball, which I think is a terrible idea, as in most of these cases, it is highly unlikely that a goal would have resulted. If this leads to more games being decided by VAR decisions such as last night, the game will be the loser as a result. |
It'll end up like hockey where players play the ball into opponents feet - but in hockey you only get a short corner rather than a penalty flick if it is accidental | |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:23 - Mar 7 with 2206 views | Radlett_blue |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:11 - Mar 7 by ITFC_Forever |
Not a single word of that makes sense. A handball is a foul, no matter where on the pitch it is.
If it happens to be in your own penalty box, then it's a penalty. End of story. |
If every apparent foul in the penalty area was given, there would be 10 penalty kicks or more each game. Referees already apply the laws differently in the penalty areas & last night's decision was a good example of how common sense should have prevailed. Or do you want the VAR to look at footage for 5 minutes after every corner kick & then toss a coin to see if he gives a free kick to the defence (the referee's preferred default option) or a penalty kick? | |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:26 - Mar 7 with 2198 views | Superblue95 |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:11 - Mar 7 by ITFC_Forever |
Not a single word of that makes sense. A handball is a foul, no matter where on the pitch it is.
If it happens to be in your own penalty box, then it's a penalty. End of story. |
It makes sense, you just have a different opinion.
Plenty of handballs aren’t given as fouls if they are deemed to be accidental or not interfering with play. | |
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| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:40 - Mar 7 with 2169 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Absolutely ridiculous decision. on 09:26 - Mar 7 by Superblue95 |
It makes sense, you just have a different opinion.
Plenty of handballs aren’t given as fouls if they are deemed to be accidental or not interfering with play. |
It's not an opinion - it's a fact.
For a handball to be given, it doesn't need to be goal-bound.
That's the point I'm correcting you on. Whether it was intentional or not, who knows... but that's another point entirely. | |
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