That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter 21:09 - Feb 13 with 3574 views | Illinoisblue | Beginning to think he’s a troll, such is his limited grasp on economics. Wonder if the protest will actually happen. | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:11 - Feb 13 with 3542 views | Bluefish | Same for all ME out people might as well demand Messi on loan. Thick fooooks | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:14 - Feb 13 with 3514 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:11 - Feb 13 by Bluefish | Same for all ME out people might as well demand Messi on loan. Thick fooooks |
Don’t think that’s fair. I think problem during ME tenure actually are deeper than ‘we want more money’. | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:15 - Feb 13 with 3506 views | Coco |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:11 - Feb 13 by Bluefish | Same for all ME out people might as well demand Messi on loan. Thick fooooks |
seems overly harsh. It may at least stop him believing the fans think everything is great now and start seeing Lambert for the silver tongued charlatan he really is. | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:19 - Feb 13 with 3492 views | textbackup |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:11 - Feb 13 by Bluefish | Same for all ME out people might as well demand Messi on loan. Thick fooooks |
Aren’t you out on the piss? | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:19 - Feb 13 with 3488 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:14 - Feb 13 by TheTrueBlue1878 | Don’t think that’s fair. I think problem during ME tenure actually are deeper than ‘we want more money’. |
The problems are deeper but the solution involves finding someone who can buy him out who is any better … or ME changing his ability to make good decisions. | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:31 - Feb 13 with 3430 views | BloomBlue | The silly thing is Mike Ashley will be looking for a new club soon after selling Newcastle we just need to wait for him to be available protesting against ME will probably result in him deciding not to buy us, fans shooting themselves in the foot. | | | |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:32 - Feb 13 with 3429 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:19 - Feb 13 by Nthsuffolkblue | The problems are deeper but the solution involves finding someone who can buy him out who is any better … or ME changing his ability to make good decisions. |
Much deeper. Building a better recruitment infrastructure would be the number 1 priority for me. But it would mean slight loosening of purse strings, but there is a market for us to buy shall we say ‘gems’ without spending fortunes, such as KVY for 500k When you look at P’boro who bought Frankie Kent and Sirki Dembele respectively for 350k and 200k it suggests there is a market to build an exciting team. If Evans can’t stretch to them ‘limits’ we may as well close the gates as there is very little hope. But it has to be done properly, not £1.6m on Jackson and £2m on Nsiala and Nolan. | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:37 - Feb 13 with 3399 views | Bluefish |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:19 - Feb 13 by textbackup | Aren’t you out on the piss? |
Wrote it while having a piss | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:39 - Feb 13 with 3391 views | textbackup |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:37 - Feb 13 by Bluefish | Wrote it while having a piss |
Sit down wees are for girls | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:41 - Feb 13 with 3379 views | PJH |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:39 - Feb 13 by textbackup | Sit down wees are for girls |
I was going to ask which hand he types with. | | | |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:49 - Feb 13 with 3352 views | Mullet | Thought it was pretty clear in fairness. What are people protesting exactly? This is just the reckoning of Evans bowing to their will and it going south isn't it? | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 22:18 - Feb 13 with 3256 views | Illinoisblue |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:32 - Feb 13 by TheTrueBlue1878 | Much deeper. Building a better recruitment infrastructure would be the number 1 priority for me. But it would mean slight loosening of purse strings, but there is a market for us to buy shall we say ‘gems’ without spending fortunes, such as KVY for 500k When you look at P’boro who bought Frankie Kent and Sirki Dembele respectively for 350k and 200k it suggests there is a market to build an exciting team. If Evans can’t stretch to them ‘limits’ we may as well close the gates as there is very little hope. But it has to be done properly, not £1.6m on Jackson and £2m on Nsiala and Nolan. |
This x 100. It was very telling that a couple months ago Lee O’Neill was proudly talking about how we now have a proper scouting network in place. Think about that. The year 2020, Evans in charge for a decade and only now we’ve figured out it’s worth putting time and effort into scouting. Absolute clown show of a football club | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 22:29 - Feb 13 with 3217 views | Metal_Hacker |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 22:18 - Feb 13 by Illinoisblue | This x 100. It was very telling that a couple months ago Lee O’Neill was proudly talking about how we now have a proper scouting network in place. Think about that. The year 2020, Evans in charge for a decade and only now we’ve figured out it’s worth putting time and effort into scouting. Absolute clown show of a football club |
If they’re kicking off and protesting about mis-management and bad business decisions at board level ie The Owner I agree it should go ahead. If it’s merely kicking off due to not spending enough I’d struggle to back that to be fair As already stated ...a clown running a clown show | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 22:54 - Feb 13 with 3143 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 22:18 - Feb 13 by Illinoisblue | This x 100. It was very telling that a couple months ago Lee O’Neill was proudly talking about how we now have a proper scouting network in place. Think about that. The year 2020, Evans in charge for a decade and only now we’ve figured out it’s worth putting time and effort into scouting. Absolute clown show of a football club |
I will reserve judgement on our 'new found’ scouting network that Lee O’Neill is talking about. It’s very easy to say the right things in front of a microphone, however as we know all to often with anything Ipswich related, very little is followed through with meaningful action. It is very hard to trust any sort of scouting network when the like of Sammie Szmodics and Frenkie Kent were on your doorstep for 4 years, and Kane Vincent-Young was turned away from his initial trial. [Post edited 14 Feb 2020 9:19]
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 07:49 - Feb 14 with 2870 views | Guthrum | Most of these things are expressions of frustrated rage over the descent of Ipswich from its glorious, if now distant, history to where we are now, directed at whatever targets are closest to hand (owner, manager, players). By no means is all of that unjustified, tho it can be poorly thought out. However, it also ignores all the environmental changes in English football over the last two or three decades. The separation of the top tier in the Prem, leveraging their weight to exert influence and get richer. The vast inflation which has happened in transfer fees and wages as a result. The wealthy but sometimes dodgy owners coming in. The clubs risking bankruptcy in the often vain hope of success. A lot of those things were lauded by the English fanbase, who revelled in the big spending, for example. But have proven to be very damaging, except right at the top of the pyramid. It's a bit like people not wanting to crack down on dubious get rich quick scams because they one day hope to succeed at it themselves. Meanwhile we continue to blame the closest targets while ignoring the underlying causes. [Post edited 14 Feb 2020 7:53]
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 07:55 - Feb 14 with 2853 views | RegencyBlue | I wish him well. At least those involved are trying to do something rather than just sitting back and watching Evans continued ineptitude slowly destroy the club without a murmur! | | | |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 08:31 - Feb 14 with 2803 views | Churchman |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 07:49 - Feb 14 by Guthrum | Most of these things are expressions of frustrated rage over the descent of Ipswich from its glorious, if now distant, history to where we are now, directed at whatever targets are closest to hand (owner, manager, players). By no means is all of that unjustified, tho it can be poorly thought out. However, it also ignores all the environmental changes in English football over the last two or three decades. The separation of the top tier in the Prem, leveraging their weight to exert influence and get richer. The vast inflation which has happened in transfer fees and wages as a result. The wealthy but sometimes dodgy owners coming in. The clubs risking bankruptcy in the often vain hope of success. A lot of those things were lauded by the English fanbase, who revelled in the big spending, for example. But have proven to be very damaging, except right at the top of the pyramid. It's a bit like people not wanting to crack down on dubious get rich quick scams because they one day hope to succeed at it themselves. Meanwhile we continue to blame the closest targets while ignoring the underlying causes. [Post edited 14 Feb 2020 7:53]
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While I fully agree about how football has changed, that should not mask ITFCs descent from being one of the best run clubs in English football to one of the worst. There is no excuse for it. If others with less can do so much better, why shouldn’t the relatively large fan base for Division 3 expect more? Should we just sit back and accept mediocrity at best season after season and that we are not in the same league as the big boys like Peterborough and Wycombe? Evans seems to have done, but I don’t see why the 21000 that witnessed the hiding the other week or the point scraped from mighty Gillingham at Christmas should. | | | |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 08:55 - Feb 14 with 2761 views | itfcjoe | People are just grumpy because we are doing badly in the league, ironically it is the manager who is at fault for that rather than the owner. When Mick was massively overpeforming in the Championship and Evans had both of Mick's hands tied behind his back they picked the wrong target then as well | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 09:22 - Feb 14 with 2676 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 08:55 - Feb 14 by itfcjoe | People are just grumpy because we are doing badly in the league, ironically it is the manager who is at fault for that rather than the owner. When Mick was massively overpeforming in the Championship and Evans had both of Mick's hands tied behind his back they picked the wrong target then as well |
I personally feel that right now its a cocktail of failure, whilst you could argue Lambert is the main ingredient, there is certainly another angle that would suggest Evans and the players are just as much to blame. Although I agree on Mick McCarthy, did a fantastic job at Ipswich whilst constantly being blind-folded and hands tied behind his back. Fans certainly picked the wrong target then. | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 09:37 - Feb 14 with 2646 views | itfcjoe |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 09:22 - Feb 14 by TheTrueBlue1878 | I personally feel that right now its a cocktail of failure, whilst you could argue Lambert is the main ingredient, there is certainly another angle that would suggest Evans and the players are just as much to blame. Although I agree on Mick McCarthy, did a fantastic job at Ipswich whilst constantly being blind-folded and hands tied behind his back. Fans certainly picked the wrong target then. |
The problem is if it is the players then that is the managers responsibility to shape them up or ship them out - and ultimately you can't sack a playing squad so manager will carry the can, rightly or wrongly | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 09:42 - Feb 14 with 2625 views | r2d2 |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 21:11 - Feb 13 by Bluefish | Same for all ME out people might as well demand Messi on loan. Thick fooooks |
Big girls blouse. | | | |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 13:09 - Feb 14 with 2510 views | Guthrum |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 08:31 - Feb 14 by Churchman | While I fully agree about how football has changed, that should not mask ITFCs descent from being one of the best run clubs in English football to one of the worst. There is no excuse for it. If others with less can do so much better, why shouldn’t the relatively large fan base for Division 3 expect more? Should we just sit back and accept mediocrity at best season after season and that we are not in the same league as the big boys like Peterborough and Wycombe? Evans seems to have done, but I don’t see why the 21000 that witnessed the hiding the other week or the point scraped from mighty Gillingham at Christmas should. |
Only a very few teams have done better with less, mostly by a fortinate signing of manager or players (who then don't get injured). The wider changes in football are important context for Evans' "underinvestment", which, in a previous era would have been more than adequate. | |
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That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 14:53 - Feb 14 with 2437 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
That wake up or sell up fella on Twitter on 09:37 - Feb 14 by itfcjoe | The problem is if it is the players then that is the managers responsibility to shape them up or ship them out - and ultimately you can't sack a playing squad so manager will carry the can, rightly or wrongly |
Oh I don't disagree in terms of it will be the manager that receives the bullet. It is the managers job to shape up the team, and implement his style per say, and over 12 months on it is hard to say we have built any form of identity. But there have been moments this year the manager cannot control, Chambers V Sunderland (H) and Norris V P'boro (H) that spring to mind. I just believe there are other angles that are just as influential. Recruitment being one of the key factors. | |
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