Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... 22:01 - Jan 22 with 4502 views | monytowbray | And I bet somehow luck will still be on their side in some freak point deduction. | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 22:05 - Jan 22 with 3886 views | SitfcB | They are down down down. Now we have to stick to our side of the bargain ffs. Apparently they’re not playing badly either but still losing, ha. | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 22:10 - Jan 22 with 3851 views | Nthsuffolkblue | They have chosen not to throw money at trying to stay up. They will go down with parachute payments for 5 years (or whatever it is) and so have that timescale to get back up again and take the cash once more. That is their model and it has worked well for them so far in recent years, albeit that one more season down last time and the playing field would have rapidly evened out. | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 22:16 - Jan 22 with 3801 views | Pinewoodblue | Six points adrift with 14 games to go and with the biggest negative goal difference. Hard to see them not finishing bottom., never mind avoid relegation. | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 22:18 - Jan 22 with 3779 views | PJH |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 22:10 - Jan 22 by Nthsuffolkblue | They have chosen not to throw money at trying to stay up. They will go down with parachute payments for 5 years (or whatever it is) and so have that timescale to get back up again and take the cash once more. That is their model and it has worked well for them so far in recent years, albeit that one more season down last time and the playing field would have rapidly evened out. |
I think the parachute money is just for two years if they go straight back down but it is safe to say that although we will very likely be in the same division as them next season they will be slightly richer than us. | | | |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 22:22 - Jan 22 with 3761 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 22:18 - Jan 22 by PJH | I think the parachute money is just for two years if they go straight back down but it is safe to say that although we will very likely be in the same division as them next season they will be slightly richer than us. |
Money isn't everything fortunately and if it is only for 2 years, if they make a right mess of the next couple of transfer windows and sign a few more Rip Van Wolfswinkels they could soon become also-rans in the Championship once again. If only they could stop unearthing Maddisons and the likes. | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 22:23 - Jan 22 with 3757 views | vapour_trail | There’s a bunch of mini leagues in the Pl 1st 2nd-4th 5th -14th 15th-19th 20th. Norwich will finish top of their one. | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 22:25 - Jan 22 with 3749 views | rgp1 |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 22:18 - Jan 22 by PJH | I think the parachute money is just for two years if they go straight back down but it is safe to say that although we will very likely be in the same division as them next season they will be slightly richer than us. |
I don't buy the parachute money argument. Look at the likes of boro and stoke it hasn't worked for them, and Derby have been spunking money for years and look where they are. | | | |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 23:45 - Jan 22 with 3571 views | bournemouthblue |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 22:10 - Jan 22 by Nthsuffolkblue | They have chosen not to throw money at trying to stay up. They will go down with parachute payments for 5 years (or whatever it is) and so have that timescale to get back up again and take the cash once more. That is their model and it has worked well for them so far in recent years, albeit that one more season down last time and the playing field would have rapidly evened out. |
It's puzzling why they chose not to buy anyone in the summer I believe they didn't want to do a 'Fulham' but sensible investments as Sheffield United have done would have given them a better chance of staying up, surely? The madness of parachute payments will mean they'll probably be able to throw £20 million at the best attacking players knocking around in the Championship and they'll look to bounce back as quickly as possible In contrast, if we do get back to the Championship we are going to be searching in the bargain bucket yet again [Post edited 23 Jan 2020 8:14]
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 23:53 - Jan 22 with 3547 views | ITFCBlues |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 23:45 - Jan 22 by bournemouthblue | It's puzzling why they chose not to buy anyone in the summer I believe they didn't want to do a 'Fulham' but sensible investments as Sheffield United have done would have given them a better chance of staying up, surely? The madness of parachute payments will mean they'll probably be able to throw £20 million at the best attacking players knocking around in the Championship and they'll look to bounce back as quickly as possible In contrast, if we do get back to the Championship we are going to be searching in the bargain bucket yet again [Post edited 23 Jan 2020 8:14]
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They'll probably lose a fair amount of their players. Buendia, Pukki, Aaron's and Godfrey will surely get Prem moves if they want them? | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 23:56 - Jan 22 with 3539 views | BlueinBrum |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 23:53 - Jan 22 by ITFCBlues | They'll probably lose a fair amount of their players. Buendia, Pukki, Aaron's and Godfrey will surely get Prem moves if they want them? |
Cantwell too | | | |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 01:13 - Jan 23 with 3467 views | linhdi |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 23:53 - Jan 22 by ITFCBlues | They'll probably lose a fair amount of their players. Buendia, Pukki, Aaron's and Godfrey will surely get Prem moves if they want them? |
Not sure about Pukki - championship player at best. Cantrell might be ok, but is 2 years from being really effective. Aarons is probably the pick of the bunch. | | | |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 05:53 - Jan 23 with 3360 views | Chondzoresk |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 23:53 - Jan 22 by ITFCBlues | They'll probably lose a fair amount of their players. Buendia, Pukki, Aaron's and Godfrey will surely get Prem moves if they want them? |
My thoughts exactly. Their best and their young decent players will be sold. It may not be a given that they will get an immediate return. Let’s face it, some teams have been in serious trouble getting relegated from the Prem. | | | |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 06:29 - Jan 23 with 3309 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 23:53 - Jan 22 by ITFCBlues | They'll probably lose a fair amount of their players. Buendia, Pukki, Aaron's and Godfrey will surely get Prem moves if they want them? |
I never normally jump on the bandwagon of assuming the relegated teams will bounce back but unfortunately I suspect they’ll be in pretty good shape Given their lack of recruitment they won’t have a pressing need to sell, and realistically selling one or two of those will bring in more than enough to balance the books in the short term and allow them to reinforce The trouble will come if several of them kick up a stink and demand moves, or make the same mistake they did last time and start panic buying this month to try and stay up, but I suspect the gap now will remove that temptation Next season will be big for them though - fail to bounce straight back and there will be more upheaval. Here’s hoping | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 06:53 - Jan 23 with 3269 views | Kieran_Knows |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 23:45 - Jan 22 by bournemouthblue | It's puzzling why they chose not to buy anyone in the summer I believe they didn't want to do a 'Fulham' but sensible investments as Sheffield United have done would have given them a better chance of staying up, surely? The madness of parachute payments will mean they'll probably be able to throw £20 million at the best attacking players knocking around in the Championship and they'll look to bounce back as quickly as possible In contrast, if we do get back to the Championship we are going to be searching in the bargain bucket yet again [Post edited 23 Jan 2020 8:14]
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If you’re heading in to a Prem season with Grant Hanley as one of your first choice centre halves (and captain), you know you’re asking for trouble. | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 07:33 - Jan 23 with 3181 views | Chrisd |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 22:18 - Jan 22 by PJH | I think the parachute money is just for two years if they go straight back down but it is safe to say that although we will very likely be in the same division as them next season they will be slightly richer than us. |
Think you're right here PJH, there is definitely a difference if you come straight down rather than being in the EPL for a good few seasons, but not entirely sure what the difference is? Nevertheless, I quite like how Norwich City have approached it and not bankrupt themselves just to survive. Lets be honest, they are going to be a millions miles ahead of us if we meet next season, I doubt if the gulf between them and us has ever been wider financially? [Post edited 23 Jan 2020 8:14]
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 07:35 - Jan 23 with 3181 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 06:53 - Jan 23 by Kieran_Knows | If you’re heading in to a Prem season with Grant Hanley as one of your first choice centre halves (and captain), you know you’re asking for trouble. |
It's not puzzling at all. Norwich have to fund themselves and there was at best a 1 in 3 chance of staying up. Sheff U, like Villa have dubious offshore money to throw away on the off chance of winning the lottery. Despite that, Villa look like doing a Fulham - and Sheff U will come down next year. Nprwich cannot throw money away-and any signings HAVE to work or the fate of Boro, Stoke, Charlton, Wimbledon, Portsmouth, Blackpool.... and er Ipswich awaits | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 07:43 - Jan 23 with 3167 views | Chrisd |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 01:13 - Jan 23 by linhdi | Not sure about Pukki - championship player at best. Cantrell might be ok, but is 2 years from being really effective. Aarons is probably the pick of the bunch. |
I like how we are digging out NC's players and questioning their level of ability. When in comparison, it's likely we'll lose out best young players this summer and we'll be left with a squad with a huge question mark over whether they are even good enough or have the ability themselves to compete in the Championship. Lets concentrate on us, rather than that lot up the road. | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 08:16 - Jan 23 with 3041 views | bournemouthblue |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 23:53 - Jan 22 by ITFCBlues | They'll probably lose a fair amount of their players. Buendia, Pukki, Aaron's and Godfrey will surely get Prem moves if they want them? |
Parachute payments mean you don't really have to sell any more Yes they may cash in on their saleable assets but you don't see the fire sales for players like you would have done in the past I can remember seeing the line ups from Stoke and West Brom last year and they both still had Premier League line ups | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 08:33 - Jan 23 with 3006 views | LeoMuff |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 06:53 - Jan 23 by Kieran_Knows | If you’re heading in to a Prem season with Grant Hanley as one of your first choice centre halves (and captain), you know you’re asking for trouble. |
Pretty sure they expected to go down, but they will be super strong next season and it’s all about building, if you can manage to stay up then you are set for years. You can also poach the best youngsters and gamble on landing the next Maddison, all of which may lead to a few longer prem stints. All seems very sensible tome unfortunately | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 08:33 - Jan 23 with 3015 views | itfcjoe | No chance, they are down. They almost accepted relegation before the season started with their recruitment - they have ultimate faith in their project but I think they may come to regret that, very few teams bounce straight back. A poor start to the season and they'll be calling for Farke's head again. They have lots of saleable assets, and are very well run - but getting out of the Championship is never, ever easy and I hope they live to regret last summer's approach | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 09:27 - Jan 23 with 2908 views | PrideOfTheEast |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 08:33 - Jan 23 by itfcjoe | No chance, they are down. They almost accepted relegation before the season started with their recruitment - they have ultimate faith in their project but I think they may come to regret that, very few teams bounce straight back. A poor start to the season and they'll be calling for Farke's head again. They have lots of saleable assets, and are very well run - but getting out of the Championship is never, ever easy and I hope they live to regret last summer's approach |
Will be interesting to see who goes. I'm not convinced anybody will take Pukki (he's 29 isn't he) - perhaps one of the promoted sides. Full backs, Cantwell and Godfrey? | | | |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 09:31 - Jan 23 with 2883 views | hype313 |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 09:27 - Jan 23 by PrideOfTheEast | Will be interesting to see who goes. I'm not convinced anybody will take Pukki (he's 29 isn't he) - perhaps one of the promoted sides. Full backs, Cantwell and Godfrey? |
Max Aarons will be the first out the door, probably to Spurs. | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 09:34 - Jan 23 with 2877 views | itfcjoe |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 09:27 - Jan 23 by PrideOfTheEast | Will be interesting to see who goes. I'm not convinced anybody will take Pukki (he's 29 isn't he) - perhaps one of the promoted sides. Full backs, Cantwell and Godfrey? |
Buendia and Aarons are the ones who will be in most demand - I don' think Godfrey is that good, certainly not for the fee they'd want for him. | |
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Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 09:53 - Jan 23 with 2781 views | PrideOfTheEast |
Scum pretty much 9 points off safety now... on 09:34 - Jan 23 by itfcjoe | Buendia and Aarons are the ones who will be in most demand - I don' think Godfrey is that good, certainly not for the fee they'd want for him. |
Ah yes, forgot about Buendia. He's decent. | | | |
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