| Kenlock 13:37 - Dec 30 with 2551 views | kizaitfc |
Just looked through early games this season.
I'd probably say 2 of our better home performances were Sunderland and Shrewsbury. Kenlock played in both of these games, he surely should be banging on PLs door.
Although I have never been Kenlocks biggest fan, I feel we desperately need to get Garbutt in more advanced positions. |  |
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| Kenlock on 13:41 - Dec 30 with 2282 views | Steve_M |
After the Shrewsbury match, the collective wisdom of many Town fans was that he was our weakest player and urgently needed to be replaced.
Kenlock is what he always has been, a slightly inconsistent player generally comfortable on the ball but prone to some awful defensive lapses. He keeps working even when having a bad game though. |  |
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| Kenlock on 13:45 - Dec 30 with 2260 views | StokieBlue |
We do need Garbutt further forward but we shouldn't rewrite history to justify it. Kenlock was very poor indeed early on the season. By all means we can play him and push Garbutt forward but trying to use a vague stat to justify it is silly.
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| Kenlock on 13:46 - Dec 30 with 2255 views | kizaitfc |
| Kenlock on 13:41 - Dec 30 by Steve_M |
After the Shrewsbury match, the collective wisdom of many Town fans was that he was our weakest player and urgently needed to be replaced.
Kenlock is what he always has been, a slightly inconsistent player generally comfortable on the ball but prone to some awful defensive lapses. He keeps working even when having a bad game though. |
Completely agree he is not the right player but structurally a proper left back and right back make us stronger.
With Jan window coming up I'd like us to sign a old school solid left back but if not I think we should try him for now. Or maybe Clements who I thought was supposed to be an upcoming decent left back | |
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| Kenlock on 13:48 - Dec 30 with 2244 views | kizaitfc |
| Kenlock on 13:45 - Dec 30 by StokieBlue |
We do need Garbutt further forward but we shouldn't rewrite history to justify it. Kenlock was very poor indeed early on the season. By all means we can play him and push Garbutt forward but trying to use a vague stat to justify it is silly.
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Didn't say that, I simply mean it is something youd imagine Kenlock should be annoyed about.
Whether you argue he was or weakest player, we were winning games yet he doesn't seem to be given another chance.
I'm sure there are people that think he played well in those games.
As I previously said I'd prefer it to be a better lb but we do not have one | |
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| Kenlock on 13:53 - Dec 30 with 2232 views | clive_baker |
| Kenlock on 13:41 - Dec 30 by Steve_M |
After the Shrewsbury match, the collective wisdom of many Town fans was that he was our weakest player and urgently needed to be replaced.
Kenlock is what he always has been, a slightly inconsistent player generally comfortable on the ball but prone to some awful defensive lapses. He keeps working even when having a bad game though. |
He seemingly also becomes a better player the longer he's out of the side. |  |
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| Kenlock on 13:56 - Dec 30 with 2217 views | kizaitfc |
| Kenlock on 13:53 - Dec 30 by clive_baker |
He seemingly also becomes a better player the longer he's out of the side. |
Good player, bad player I dont think it matters when he is your best option | |
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| Kenlock on 13:57 - Dec 30 with 2218 views | leftback |
I think Kenlock shows lamberts rotation policy is a complete farce........every position has been rotated except leftback, if lambert as he states doesn’t have preferred starters you would have expected Garbutt to be rested and Kenlock to get the occasional game but it never happens | | | |
| Kenlock on 14:11 - Dec 30 with 2196 views | StokieBlue |
| Kenlock on 13:48 - Dec 30 by kizaitfc |
Didn't say that, I simply mean it is something youd imagine Kenlock should be annoyed about.
Whether you argue he was or weakest player, we were winning games yet he doesn't seem to be given another chance.
I'm sure there are people that think he played well in those games.
As I previously said I'd prefer it to be a better lb but we do not have one |
Correlation doesn't always equal causation.
I don't think you can isolate kenlock as the reason we won games so how can he be annoyed?
Ideally we should be in the market for a left back but I doubt we will be.
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| Kenlock on 14:29 - Dec 30 with 2160 views | sparks |
| Kenlock on 13:45 - Dec 30 by StokieBlue |
We do need Garbutt further forward but we shouldn't rewrite history to justify it. Kenlock was very poor indeed early on the season. By all means we can play him and push Garbutt forward but trying to use a vague stat to justify it is silly.
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And yet- we were a stronger and more effective team with him playing as a proper full back... |  |
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| Kenlock on 14:36 - Dec 30 with 2146 views | GeoffSentence |
| Kenlock on 14:29 - Dec 30 by sparks |
And yet- we were a stronger and more effective team with him playing as a proper full back... |
This is exactly the same point that I always made about ALB.
He may not have been the greatest keeper, but our results were better when he played than when the more glamorous options we had at the same time got a game. |  |
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| Kenlock on 14:39 - Dec 30 with 2137 views | sparks |
| Kenlock on 14:36 - Dec 30 by GeoffSentence |
This is exactly the same point that I always made about ALB.
He may not have been the greatest keeper, but our results were better when he played than when the more glamorous options we had at the same time got a game. |
Clarrity and certainty about roles and positions. Putting Garbutt up as a proper left sided midfielder (not a winger or striker orr full back per se).
As a team i think we were stronger, because it allowed and encouraged some shape and consistency. | |
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| Kenlock on 14:45 - Dec 30 with 2120 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Kenlock on 13:56 - Dec 30 by kizaitfc |
Good player, bad player I dont think it matters when he is your best option |
It's a little like arguing whether we should play Donacien or Edwards/Skuse as right back.
While Donacien has had some very poor performances for us, he is a far better option than the other options. While Garbutt is a decent left back, he would improve us by being LM and playing Kenlock allows that to happen. |  |
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| Kenlock on 15:26 - Dec 30 with 2052 views | billlm |
I'm not a fan of kenlocks, but have been saying this for weeks, well done |  | | |
| Kenlock on 15:43 - Dec 30 with 2023 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Kenlock on 13:46 - Dec 30 by kizaitfc |
Completely agree he is not the right player but structurally a proper left back and right back make us stronger.
With Jan window coming up I'd like us to sign a old school solid left back but if not I think we should try him for now. Or maybe Clements who I thought was supposed to be an upcoming decent left back |
Nydam is also a possibility when he's back from injury.
Having said that, a midfield three of Downes, Dozzell and Nydam might be worth trying. |  | | |
| Kenlock on 16:28 - Dec 30 with 1943 views | Wickets |
11 starts Miles 5 wins 5 draws the only loss was 94 minute at Colchester (EFLC ) when he played left side centre back i seem to remember . I posted this last week. The whole team was playing with more confidence then but could be argued that he is our only natural left back so he should be playing ? |  | | |
| Kenlock on 16:44 - Dec 30 with 1915 views | Wickets |
| Kenlock on 14:39 - Dec 30 by sparks |
Clarrity and certainty about roles and positions. Putting Garbutt up as a proper left sided midfielder (not a winger or striker orr full back per se).
As a team i think we were stronger, because it allowed and encouraged some shape and consistency. |
Yes just that . | | | |
| Kenlock on 17:35 - Dec 30 with 1834 views | BloomBlue |
But the football expert fans said he was the worst LB in the history of the club and demandes PL drop him. |  | | |
| Kenlock on 18:02 - Dec 30 with 1787 views | billlm |
| Kenlock on 17:35 - Dec 30 by BloomBlue |
But the football expert fans said he was the worst LB in the history of the club and demandes PL drop him. |
Then quiet frankly their not experts are they, | | | |
| Kenlock on 18:56 - Dec 30 with 1735 views | bournemouthblue |
| Kenlock on 13:41 - Dec 30 by Steve_M |
After the Shrewsbury match, the collective wisdom of many Town fans was that he was our weakest player and urgently needed to be replaced.
Kenlock is what he always has been, a slightly inconsistent player generally comfortable on the ball but prone to some awful defensive lapses. He keeps working even when having a bad game though. |
The only way he is going to get better is by playing
If you can't develop him in League One, when can you?
I'm sure MM would have developed him into a fairly solid defender |  |
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| Kenlock on 19:08 - Dec 30 with 1715 views | Eireannach_gorm |
What a novel idea, playing a full back in the full back position. |  | | |
| Kenlock on 19:31 - Dec 30 with 1680 views | jas0999 |
Completely agree with you. Give Kenlock a run at LB. | | | |
| Kenlock on 21:25 - Dec 30 with 1570 views | michaeldownunder |
Miles may not be the best fullback but it also depends who was playing in front of him. If it was Alan (I am going to play anywhere) Judge, you can understand why he had problems.
Luke would help him with extra cover when going forwards or when he was trying to cover the runs of a winger and a fullback. |  | | |
| Kenlock on 21:33 - Dec 30 with 1556 views | StokieBlue |
| Kenlock on 14:29 - Dec 30 by sparks |
And yet- we were a stronger and more effective team with him playing as a proper full back... |
You've assumed a correlation there. Where is the evidence that everyone else is playing to the same standard or that teams haven't worked us out.
You know there are too many variables to make the sweeping statement you've made.
Doesn't mean we shouldn't try it given our current state and Garbutt would be nice further forward but the assertions here seem very easy with hindsight.
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| Kenlock on 21:37 - Dec 30 with 1543 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Kenlock on 21:33 - Dec 30 by StokieBlue |
You've assumed a correlation there. Where is the evidence that everyone else is playing to the same standard or that teams haven't worked us out.
You know there are too many variables to make the sweeping statement you've made.
Doesn't mean we shouldn't try it given our current state and Garbutt would be nice further forward but the assertions here seem very easy with hindsight.
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Perhaps the evidence is in the post prior to yours above.
Garbutt as LM provides better positional awareness and defensive cover than Judge or another attacking player out of position there.
Statistics do not always paint a clear picture but it is strange Kenlock does not appear to have been in Lambert's considerations. | |
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| Kenlock on 21:40 - Dec 30 with 1524 views | jeera |
| Kenlock on 17:35 - Dec 30 by BloomBlue |
But the football expert fans said he was the worst LB in the history of the club and demandes PL drop him. |
Clearly several posts have been about finding a way to enable Garbutt to play further forwards. |  |
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