| Harry Kane 10:13 - May 18 with 22258 views | Heathlander |
Is he world class? |  | | |  |
| Harry Kane on 10:16 - May 18 with 6886 views | itfcjoe |
Yes |  |
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| Harry Kane on 10:18 - May 18 with 6868 views | hammo56 |
Nope. |  | | |
| Harry Kane on 10:19 - May 18 with 6872 views | chicoazul |
Regularly have this argument. No, not quite. The highest levels of football are the World Cup Champions League and to a slightly lesser extent South American WC qualifying. He hasn't really done anything in the WC yet, he has done ok in the CL but Spurs havent done much. For me true world class is players who do it at the absolute top level consistently and I dont mean turkey shoots against Andorra or Gibraltar in qualifying matches so Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Griezmann, Aguero, James Rodruguez. Kane is just a level below world elite. |  |
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| Harry Kane on 10:21 - May 18 with 6851 views | Heathlander |
| Harry Kane on 10:19 - May 18 by chicoazul |
Regularly have this argument. No, not quite. The highest levels of football are the World Cup Champions League and to a slightly lesser extent South American WC qualifying. He hasn't really done anything in the WC yet, he has done ok in the CL but Spurs havent done much. For me true world class is players who do it at the absolute top level consistently and I dont mean turkey shoots against Andorra or Gibraltar in qualifying matches so Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Griezmann, Aguero, James Rodruguez. Kane is just a level below world elite. |
I think you are spot on. My thoughts too. I hope I am proved wrong :) | | | |
| Harry Kane on 10:21 - May 18 with 6843 views | chicoazul |
| Harry Kane on 10:21 - May 18 by Heathlander |
I think you are spot on. My thoughts too. I hope I am proved wrong :) |
Long as he isnt taking corners this time we should be fine. | |
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| Harry Kane on 10:26 - May 18 with 6825 views | unstableblue |
I used to think no
But watched several games this season where his movement, on the ball ability, skill to make space, running on and off the ball, passing/crossing and of course scoring where of high calibre |  |
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| Harry Kane on 10:39 - May 18 with 6790 views | christiand |
I’m still not convinced. There’s no doubt he is a very good striker, but world class I’m not sure. When Spurs have really needed him in the big games recently, he’s gone missing - I think of both the Manchester City league games, the second leg of Juventus CL tie and the Manchester United FA Cup semi final. It could be argued that he isn't fully fit and has been rushed back, so jury still out for me. The World Cup will be an interesting watch, hope Kane proves he is world class there! | |
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| Harry Kane on 10:54 - May 18 with 6751 views | rickw |
I believe he is but he needs to prove it in this World Cup or the latter stages of the Champions League |  |
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| Harry Kane on 10:56 - May 18 with 6746 views | Bluebell |
I always think a player is only good if the team around him are good too.
If he had been playing at Ipswich last season I doubt he would have scored as many. In fact he would probably been playing at right back!   |  | | |
| Harry Kane on 11:02 - May 18 with 6732 views | WestSussexBlue |
| Harry Kane on 10:39 - May 18 by christiand |
I’m still not convinced. There’s no doubt he is a very good striker, but world class I’m not sure. When Spurs have really needed him in the big games recently, he’s gone missing - I think of both the Manchester City league games, the second leg of Juventus CL tie and the Manchester United FA Cup semi final. It could be argued that he isn't fully fit and has been rushed back, so jury still out for me. The World Cup will be an interesting watch, hope Kane proves he is world class there! |
Agree entirely | | | |
| Harry Kane on 11:05 - May 18 with 6721 views | wkj |
If he keeps his form I reckon (hope) he will psh all over Rooney's caps/goals tally. I know ther eis the debate on whether or not he was any good, but all told; I just don't like him. |  |
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| Harry Kane on 11:16 - May 18 with 6699 views | localboy78 |
| Harry Kane on 10:39 - May 18 by christiand |
I’m still not convinced. There’s no doubt he is a very good striker, but world class I’m not sure. When Spurs have really needed him in the big games recently, he’s gone missing - I think of both the Manchester City league games, the second leg of Juventus CL tie and the Manchester United FA Cup semi final. It could be argued that he isn't fully fit and has been rushed back, so jury still out for me. The World Cup will be an interesting watch, hope Kane proves he is world class there! |
He was superb against real madrid though... | | | |
| Harry Kane on 11:19 - May 18 with 6682 views | Herbivore |
| Harry Kane on 10:19 - May 18 by chicoazul |
Regularly have this argument. No, not quite. The highest levels of football are the World Cup Champions League and to a slightly lesser extent South American WC qualifying. He hasn't really done anything in the WC yet, he has done ok in the CL but Spurs havent done much. For me true world class is players who do it at the absolute top level consistently and I dont mean turkey shoots against Andorra or Gibraltar in qualifying matches so Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Griezmann, Aguero, James Rodruguez. Kane is just a level below world elite. |
What's Aguero done in the World Cup and later stages of the CL to be world class when Kane isn't? Rodriguez is a contentious inclusion too imo, Kane has produced far more consistently in recent years than James has. |  |
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| Harry Kane on 11:21 - May 18 with 6678 views | HennikerBlu |
An excellent Prem player, no doubt, but in the Euros I felt he seemed to have little impact, excepting of course, the bizarre corner kick duties did not help etc.
I also wonder whether we are going to have another Rooney or Owen scenario where the pressure is on the big name and they don't always deliver on the international stage. Though taking either of them with an injury or recovering wasn't helpful.
I am probably more of Vardy fan, but there is no doubt Kane is a more rounded player and has the potential to be a world class striker.
I do hope Southgate is not afraid to drop players and ignore the media; those that might be great for their club but can't do it on the International stage. I am fed up of watching the best of the English Prem players looking lost on the big stage. The country deserves better. | | | |
| Harry Kane on 11:22 - May 18 with 6676 views | wkj |
| Harry Kane on 11:21 - May 18 by HennikerBlu |
An excellent Prem player, no doubt, but in the Euros I felt he seemed to have little impact, excepting of course, the bizarre corner kick duties did not help etc.
I also wonder whether we are going to have another Rooney or Owen scenario where the pressure is on the big name and they don't always deliver on the international stage. Though taking either of them with an injury or recovering wasn't helpful.
I am probably more of Vardy fan, but there is no doubt Kane is a more rounded player and has the potential to be a world class striker.
I do hope Southgate is not afraid to drop players and ignore the media; those that might be great for their club but can't do it on the International stage. I am fed up of watching the best of the English Prem players looking lost on the big stage. The country deserves better. |
Hodgson's tactical handling of Euros was so utterly baffling, I think it is unfair to judge Kane too much on that. | |
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| Harry Kane on 11:23 - May 18 with 6666 views | Monkey_Blue |
Potentially... he’s not proven it yet but that doesn’t mean he isn’t. He’s done plenty for his age |  | | |
| Harry Kane on 11:24 - May 18 with 6664 views | chicoazul |
| Harry Kane on 10:56 - May 18 by Bluebell |
I always think a player is only good if the team around him are good too.
If he had been playing at Ipswich last season I doubt he would have scored as many. In fact he would probably been playing at right back! |
Maradona carried a generally-poor Argentina side to two WC finals back to back and won one. There were no real stars in the Napoli team either. I appreciate he is a bit of an exception but this is basically the "could he do it on a wet Wednesday at Stoke" argument. | |
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| Harry Kane on 11:25 - May 18 with 6662 views | chicoazul |
| Harry Kane on 11:19 - May 18 by Herbivore |
What's Aguero done in the World Cup and later stages of the CL to be world class when Kane isn't? Rodriguez is a contentious inclusion too imo, Kane has produced far more consistently in recent years than James has. |
That is a fair point. I may be over-estimating him but he always comes to mind when I think of top players below the Messi Ronaldo level.
EDIT; James has a great record at international level and South America WC qualifiers (and Copa America to a lesser extent) may be the consistently highest level of football in the world. That makes him truly world class for me, to say nothing of his club career. [Post edited 18 May 2018 11:30]
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| Harry Kane on 11:27 - May 18 with 6656 views | Nazemariner |
4 consecutive seasons where he has notched a hat full in PL, along with a fair few in European competition.
I think he is the ONLY world class English player. |  | | |
| Harry Kane on 11:29 - May 18 with 6647 views | christiand |
| Harry Kane on 11:19 - May 18 by Herbivore |
What's Aguero done in the World Cup and later stages of the CL to be world class when Kane isn't? Rodriguez is a contentious inclusion too imo, Kane has produced far more consistently in recent years than James has. |
Is anyone disputing that Rodriquez is world class? That's you Herbivore, in a room on your own, starting an argument with yourself. For me, when you are looking at 'world class' its plays like: Messi, Neymar, Buffon and Ronaldo that type of ilk. Do they deliver on the big stage? They'll have games when they are quiet, but generally it's hard to disagree that they don't. Kane still has some way to go to prove he is in the same breath as those players and some others, but he certainly has potential. | |
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| Harry Kane on 11:29 - May 18 with 6644 views | wkj |
| Harry Kane on 11:27 - May 18 by Nazemariner |
4 consecutive seasons where he has notched a hat full in PL, along with a fair few in European competition.
I think he is the ONLY world class English player. |
Add to that the fact he's mentally tuned in (so it would seem) - He's not out on the lash driving his female friend home, Messing about with grannies and cheating on his missus, so- there is that | |
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| Harry Kane on 11:31 - May 18 with 6627 views | chicoazul |
| Harry Kane on 11:27 - May 18 by Nazemariner |
4 consecutive seasons where he has notched a hat full in PL, along with a fair few in European competition.
I think he is the ONLY world class English player. |
We have 4 or 5 decent players. Kane Sterling Kyle Walker, Delle Ali on his day, John Stones. But none of them are world class. | |
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| Harry Kane on 11:44 - May 18 with 6604 views | wkj |
| Harry Kane on 11:31 - May 18 by chicoazul |
We have 4 or 5 decent players. Kane Sterling Kyle Walker, Delle Ali on his day, John Stones. But none of them are world class. |
*except for Harry Kane | |
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| Harry Kane on 11:46 - May 18 with 6598 views | Weekender |
Why does it matter? Put him in that category or don't what difference does it make to anything? |  |
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