| Lambert 21:52 - Nov 1 with 4727 views | itfcjoe |
AN impressive guy, holds the room well - exudes confidence and steel and just comes across as a pro, like Mick was able to.
I've got great confidence in him, and am looking forward to the weekend.
Kudos to the club and the supporters club for putting on an event and allowing such access to the manager. |  |
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| Lambert on 22:06 - Nov 1 with 4604 views | rfretwell |
That's all very well ITFC Joe so why didn't Evans hire him in the summer? Far better track record than Hurst who has destroyed our team. How he could ever agree to Waggers being sold god only knows. The same Waghorn who was fantastic at Chelsea last night. He should have said " give us one more season while the team settles down.". But no he lets Evans pocket the dosh and take a ridiculous pint on lower division, hardly prolific strikers. We deserve to be bottom and wont climb the table till we get a proper goalscorer in. Sadly. |  | | |
| Lambert on 23:36 - Nov 1 with 4404 views | Guthrum |
| Lambert on 22:06 - Nov 1 by rfretwell |
That's all very well ITFC Joe so why didn't Evans hire him in the summer? Far better track record than Hurst who has destroyed our team. How he could ever agree to Waggers being sold god only knows. The same Waghorn who was fantastic at Chelsea last night. He should have said " give us one more season while the team settles down.". But no he lets Evans pocket the dosh and take a ridiculous pint on lower division, hardly prolific strikers. We deserve to be bottom and wont climb the table till we get a proper goalscorer in. Sadly. |
Almost everyone wanted a "young, hungry" manager, hiring "young, hungry" players from "lower leagues".
Also, Lambert didn't leave Stoke until well into our recruitment process. |  |
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| Lambert on 06:22 - Nov 2 with 4213 views | hype313 |
| Lambert on 22:06 - Nov 1 by rfretwell |
That's all very well ITFC Joe so why didn't Evans hire him in the summer? Far better track record than Hurst who has destroyed our team. How he could ever agree to Waggers being sold god only knows. The same Waghorn who was fantastic at Chelsea last night. He should have said " give us one more season while the team settles down.". But no he lets Evans pocket the dosh and take a ridiculous pint on lower division, hardly prolific strikers. We deserve to be bottom and wont climb the table till we get a proper goalscorer in. Sadly. |
He wanted a break from management and Waghorn wanted to leave, simples. |  |
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| Lambert on 06:27 - Nov 2 with 4201 views | Benters2 |
| Lambert on 06:22 - Nov 2 by hype313 |
He wanted a break from management and Waghorn wanted to leave, simples. |
Money talks.
PH has fkd us good and proper. | | | |
| Lambert on 06:30 - Nov 2 with 4188 views | hype313 |
| Lambert on 06:27 - Nov 2 by Benters2 |
Money talks.
PH has fkd us good and proper. |
I don't think any manager could have kept Waghorn, this whole notion of wanting to Join Lampard was lip service, he got triple his wages and a big signing on fee, can't blame him, and certainly not Hursts fault. | |
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| Lambert on 06:31 - Nov 2 with 4185 views | Benters2 |
How many years will we be comparing everything to Mick Mac?
He isnt even our last manager. | | | |
| Lambert on 06:35 - Nov 2 with 4172 views | Benters2 |
| Lambert on 06:30 - Nov 2 by hype313 |
I don't think any manager could have kept Waghorn, this whole notion of wanting to Join Lampard was lip service, he got triple his wages and a big signing on fee, can't blame him, and certainly not Hursts fault. |
Like i said then money does talk.
Ok it wasnt PHs fault that he left,however it is his fault not signing like for like. | | | |
| Lambert on 06:42 - Nov 2 with 4154 views | hype313 |
| Lambert on 06:35 - Nov 2 by Benters2 |
Like i said then money does talk.
Ok it wasnt PHs fault that he left,however it is his fault not signing like for like. |
We don't have the finances of Derby so we couldn't sign like for like, hence shopping in the bargain basement. | |
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| Lambert on 06:51 - Nov 2 with 4131 views | Ely_Blue |
| Lambert on 06:42 - Nov 2 by hype313 |
We don't have the finances of Derby so we couldn't sign like for like, hence shopping in the bargain basement. |
Given that we only signed him 12 months before then yes we could have signed like for like, you just need a manager with either the right contacts book or a good scout next to him to be able to identify players and then motivate them to playing the right way for you |  |
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| Lambert on 06:55 - Nov 2 with 4115 views | Benters2 |
| Lambert on 06:51 - Nov 2 by Ely_Blue |
Given that we only signed him 12 months before then yes we could have signed like for like, you just need a manager with either the right contacts book or a good scout next to him to be able to identify players and then motivate them to playing the right way for you |
Thank you for putting it better than i could. | | | |
| Lambert on 07:54 - Nov 2 with 3914 views | hype313 |
| Lambert on 06:51 - Nov 2 by Ely_Blue |
Given that we only signed him 12 months before then yes we could have signed like for like, you just need a manager with either the right contacts book or a good scout next to him to be able to identify players and then motivate them to playing the right way for you |
Like for like Waghorn after his first season or before? | |
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| Lambert on 06:22 - Nov 2 by hype313 |
He wanted a break from management and Waghorn wanted to leave, simples. |
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| Lambert on 08:06 - Nov 2 with 3858 views | hype313 |
This is obviously a contentious point as I've read otherwise, however I'm no more in the know than anyone, and to be fair even if we did offer him a new contract whilst upping his wages would it have been as much as Derby's? I very much doubt so, as I say can't blame him for cashing in. | |
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| Lambert on 08:09 - Nov 2 with 3841 views | Ely_Blue |
| Lambert on 07:54 - Nov 2 by hype313 |
Like for like Waghorn after his first season or before? |
Like for like when he first signed him, it was the management of MM that obviously got something out of him that others hadn’t seen or got from him before, it wasn’t like he needed to be with us for 2-3 years before he blossomed is it? Therefore MM and his scouts saw something they thought they could work with. I would expect any decent manager that we should be looking to employ should be able to do the same. | |
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| Lambert on 08:11 - Nov 2 with 3828 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Lambert on 06:31 - Nov 2 by Benters2 |
How many years will we be comparing everything to Mick Mac?
He isnt even our last manager. |
Only being compared to Mick because they've both joined the club in very similar situations.
Plus, I'd say Mick was our last manager because Hurst was nothing short* of a joke.
*no pun intended |  |
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| Waghorn on 08:12 - Nov 2 with 3818 views | MVBlue |
Wghorn was probably not interested in being coached by Chris Doig who was photographed jumping on his back during training. |  |
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| Lambert on 08:13 - Nov 2 with 3807 views | hype313 |
| Lambert on 08:09 - Nov 2 by Ely_Blue |
Like for like when he first signed him, it was the management of MM that obviously got something out of him that others hadn’t seen or got from him before, it wasn’t like he needed to be with us for 2-3 years before he blossomed is it? Therefore MM and his scouts saw something they thought they could work with. I would expect any decent manager that we should be looking to employ should be able to do the same. |
Think we're getting our wires crossed, I wanted Hurst out, thought he was out of his depth, but if we were to buy a championship striker with 20 odd goals in him then we would would have had to spend £5m plus, something we have never done under Evans.
Now, if we wanted a manager who could spot a player who could be a diamond in the rough then Mick was the man, as history suggested, unlike Hurst.
But I thought everyone wanted Mick out. | |
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| Lambert on 08:25 - Nov 2 with 3752 views | rfretwell |
| Lambert on 08:13 - Nov 2 by hype313 |
Think we're getting our wires crossed, I wanted Hurst out, thought he was out of his depth, but if we were to buy a championship striker with 20 odd goals in him then we would would have had to spend £5m plus, something we have never done under Evans.
Now, if we wanted a manager who could spot a player who could be a diamond in the rough then Mick was the man, as history suggested, unlike Hurst.
But I thought everyone wanted Mick out. |
I think we are all much more confident that Lamberts team can spot a raw diamond and develop him than Hurst and his sidekicks. | | | |
| Lambert on 08:25 - Nov 2 with 3754 views | Steve_M |
| Lambert on 08:06 - Nov 2 by hype313 |
This is obviously a contentious point as I've read otherwise, however I'm no more in the know than anyone, and to be fair even if we did offer him a new contract whilst upping his wages would it have been as much as Derby's? I very much doubt so, as I say can't blame him for cashing in. |
I think it is quite clear that, regardless of anything else, Hurst saw Waghorn going as an opportunity to spend some money. That was his choice but it was foolish not to try and persuade Waghorn to stay. |  |
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| Lambert on 08:32 - Nov 2 with 3726 views | hype313 |
| Lambert on 08:25 - Nov 2 by Steve_M |
I think it is quite clear that, regardless of anything else, Hurst saw Waghorn going as an opportunity to spend some money. That was his choice but it was foolish not to try and persuade Waghorn to stay. |
Totally agree, and if he didn't even try to persuade him to stay, then that's a shocking piece of management. | |
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| Lambert on 08:38 - Nov 2 with 3688 views | m14_blue |
| Lambert on 06:51 - Nov 2 by Ely_Blue |
Given that we only signed him 12 months before then yes we could have signed like for like, you just need a manager with either the right contacts book or a good scout next to him to be able to identify players and then motivate them to playing the right way for you |
That's really simplistic.
We signed Mings for 10k, why couldn't we just go out and sign a like for like?
For every bargain we got, there are plenty who failed.
There are lots of things to blame PH for but not being able to get a striker of Waghorn's quality on the cheap isn't one of them. | | | |
| Lambert on 08:51 - Nov 2 with 3629 views | xrayspecs |
| Lambert on 22:06 - Nov 1 by rfretwell |
That's all very well ITFC Joe so why didn't Evans hire him in the summer? Far better track record than Hurst who has destroyed our team. How he could ever agree to Waggers being sold god only knows. The same Waghorn who was fantastic at Chelsea last night. He should have said " give us one more season while the team settles down.". But no he lets Evans pocket the dosh and take a ridiculous pint on lower division, hardly prolific strikers. We deserve to be bottom and wont climb the table till we get a proper goalscorer in. Sadly. |
Hurst made the transfer decisions, in and out, not Evans. | | | |
| Lambert on 09:13 - Nov 2 with 3549 views | JimmyJazz |
| Lambert on 08:32 - Nov 2 by hype313 |
Totally agree, and if he didn't even try to persuade him to stay, then that's a shocking piece of management. |
Add to the fact he didn't even start him for the last few games (including pre-season). Talk about showing someone the door and hoping he takes the hint |  |
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| Lambert on 09:44 - Nov 2 with 3479 views | dissboy2 |
| Lambert on 09:13 - Nov 2 by JimmyJazz |
Add to the fact he didn't even start him for the last few games (including pre-season). Talk about showing someone the door and hoping he takes the hint |
in a nutshell exactly | | | |
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