| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... 18:48 - Apr 30 with 829 views | ford6600 |
Their were hundreds of Union and Confederate Civil War Generals most forgotten, can you name any?
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| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 18:49 - Apr 30 with 816 views | WD19 |
General Disinterest springs immediately to mind. |  | | |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 18:55 - Apr 30 with 775 views | Keno |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 18:49 - Apr 30 by WD19 |
General Disinterest springs immediately to mind. |
General Whatthef4ck
General Whynow |  |
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| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 18:55 - Apr 30 with 775 views | factual_blue |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 18:49 - Apr 30 by WD19 |
General Disinterest springs immediately to mind. |
Uninterested is what you mean, I think. 'Disinterested' means something different. |  |
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| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 18:56 - Apr 30 with 762 views | Keno |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 18:55 - Apr 30 by factual_blue |
Uninterested is what you mean, I think. 'Disinterested' means something different. |
is disinterest what you get on deessavings? | |
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| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 18:58 - Apr 30 with 746 views | factual_blue |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 18:55 - Apr 30 by Keno |
General Whatthef4ck
General Whynow |
General John Sedgewick said at the start of the Battle of Spotsylvania Court House in 1864 'why are you dodging [sniper fire} like this? They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist....' | |
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| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 18:59 - Apr 30 with 738 views | GeoffSentence |
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| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 19:00 - Apr 30 with 730 views | factual_blue |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 18:56 - Apr 30 by Keno |
is disinterest what you get on deessavings? |
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| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 19:10 - Apr 30 with 697 views | ford6600 |
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| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 19:12 - Apr 30 with 694 views | Churchman |
Well the obvious ones are Sherman, Maclennan, Custer, Grant, Hill, Bedford Forrest, Lee, Stuart, Stonewall Jackson but there are loads.
https://www.historynet.com/civil-war-generals/
The Ken Burns tv documentary with the marvellously named historian Shelby Foote was brilliant but it’s still a conflict that confuses the heck out of me.
A little known war (to the British) is the 1812-15 Britain v US conflict. I’ve just finished Andrew Lambert’s book ‘The Challenge’ on it and it’s well worth a read if you are interested in that sort of thing.
One of the famous events was a sea fight between two frigates. HMS Shannon and USS Chesapeake. Evenly matched, it took the form of a duel. Shannon’s Captain Philip Broke had trained his crew to an absolute peak and the fight lasted effectively about 15 minutes. Chesapeake’s Captain and most of his officers were killed or wounded as was Broke whose head was smashed with a cutlass when boarding his opponent. He survived and lived to the 1840s.
Philip Broke became a national hero and was knighted. He was a native of Ipswich. He attended Ipswich School and retired to his mansion in Nacton. The gates of Nacton Hall were made of timbers from HMS Shannon after it was broken up about 50 years later.
Chesapeake’s Captain was also considered a hero by the Americans, but he was completely outfought.
The war itself is usually presented as a draw. Lambert’s book suggests otherwise. |  | | |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 19:29 - Apr 30 with 639 views | DJR |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 19:12 - Apr 30 by Churchman |
Well the obvious ones are Sherman, Maclennan, Custer, Grant, Hill, Bedford Forrest, Lee, Stuart, Stonewall Jackson but there are loads.
https://www.historynet.com/civil-war-generals/
The Ken Burns tv documentary with the marvellously named historian Shelby Foote was brilliant but it’s still a conflict that confuses the heck out of me.
A little known war (to the British) is the 1812-15 Britain v US conflict. I’ve just finished Andrew Lambert’s book ‘The Challenge’ on it and it’s well worth a read if you are interested in that sort of thing.
One of the famous events was a sea fight between two frigates. HMS Shannon and USS Chesapeake. Evenly matched, it took the form of a duel. Shannon’s Captain Philip Broke had trained his crew to an absolute peak and the fight lasted effectively about 15 minutes. Chesapeake’s Captain and most of his officers were killed or wounded as was Broke whose head was smashed with a cutlass when boarding his opponent. He survived and lived to the 1840s.
Philip Broke became a national hero and was knighted. He was a native of Ipswich. He attended Ipswich School and retired to his mansion in Nacton. The gates of Nacton Hall were made of timbers from HMS Shannon after it was broken up about 50 years later.
Chesapeake’s Captain was also considered a hero by the Americans, but he was completely outfought.
The war itself is usually presented as a draw. Lambert’s book suggests otherwise. |
I didn't know anything about Broke, or the mansion he lived in (Broke Hall), even though the estate I lived in in Ipswich for much of my childhood was named after the mansion. |  | | |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 19:37 - Apr 30 with 607 views | Keno |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 19:12 - Apr 30 by Churchman |
Well the obvious ones are Sherman, Maclennan, Custer, Grant, Hill, Bedford Forrest, Lee, Stuart, Stonewall Jackson but there are loads.
https://www.historynet.com/civil-war-generals/
The Ken Burns tv documentary with the marvellously named historian Shelby Foote was brilliant but it’s still a conflict that confuses the heck out of me.
A little known war (to the British) is the 1812-15 Britain v US conflict. I’ve just finished Andrew Lambert’s book ‘The Challenge’ on it and it’s well worth a read if you are interested in that sort of thing.
One of the famous events was a sea fight between two frigates. HMS Shannon and USS Chesapeake. Evenly matched, it took the form of a duel. Shannon’s Captain Philip Broke had trained his crew to an absolute peak and the fight lasted effectively about 15 minutes. Chesapeake’s Captain and most of his officers were killed or wounded as was Broke whose head was smashed with a cutlass when boarding his opponent. He survived and lived to the 1840s.
Philip Broke became a national hero and was knighted. He was a native of Ipswich. He attended Ipswich School and retired to his mansion in Nacton. The gates of Nacton Hall were made of timbers from HMS Shannon after it was broken up about 50 years later.
Chesapeake’s Captain was also considered a hero by the Americans, but he was completely outfought.
The war itself is usually presented as a draw. Lambert’s book suggests otherwise. |
I am fascinated by the story of Wilbur McLean | |
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| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 20:24 - Apr 30 with 556 views | factual_blue |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 19:37 - Apr 30 by Keno |
I am fascinated by the story of Wilbur McLean |
Oi! That's my line! | |
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| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 22:06 - Apr 30 with 462 views | Churchman |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 19:37 - Apr 30 by Keno |
I am fascinated by the story of Wilbur McLean |
Was he the bloke that seemed to have a house everywhere the action took place? | | | |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 22:08 - Apr 30 with 449 views | ford6600 |
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| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 22:11 - Apr 30 with 429 views | Kievthegreat |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 19:12 - Apr 30 by Churchman |
Well the obvious ones are Sherman, Maclennan, Custer, Grant, Hill, Bedford Forrest, Lee, Stuart, Stonewall Jackson but there are loads.
https://www.historynet.com/civil-war-generals/
The Ken Burns tv documentary with the marvellously named historian Shelby Foote was brilliant but it’s still a conflict that confuses the heck out of me.
A little known war (to the British) is the 1812-15 Britain v US conflict. I’ve just finished Andrew Lambert’s book ‘The Challenge’ on it and it’s well worth a read if you are interested in that sort of thing.
One of the famous events was a sea fight between two frigates. HMS Shannon and USS Chesapeake. Evenly matched, it took the form of a duel. Shannon’s Captain Philip Broke had trained his crew to an absolute peak and the fight lasted effectively about 15 minutes. Chesapeake’s Captain and most of his officers were killed or wounded as was Broke whose head was smashed with a cutlass when boarding his opponent. He survived and lived to the 1840s.
Philip Broke became a national hero and was knighted. He was a native of Ipswich. He attended Ipswich School and retired to his mansion in Nacton. The gates of Nacton Hall were made of timbers from HMS Shannon after it was broken up about 50 years later.
Chesapeake’s Captain was also considered a hero by the Americans, but he was completely outfought.
The war itself is usually presented as a draw. Lambert’s book suggests otherwise. |
One summary I saw was that the British and Americans drew, but the Native Americans lost. |  | | |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 23:41 - Apr 30 with 370 views | factual_blue |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 22:06 - Apr 30 by Churchman |
Was he the bloke that seemed to have a house everywhere the action took place? |
Wilmer McLean (May 3, 1814 – June 5, 1882) was an American wholesale grocer from Virginia. His house, near Manassas, Virginia, was involved in the First Battle of Bull Run in 1861. After the battle, he moved to Appomattox, Virginia, to escape the war, thinking that it would be safe. Instead, in 1865, General Robert E. Lee surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant in McLean's house in Appomattox.
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| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 09:13 - May 1 with 269 views | Churchman |
| Unknown US Civil War Generals..... on 22:11 - Apr 30 by Kievthegreat |
One summary I saw was that the British and Americans drew, but the Native Americans lost. |
That’s the American narrative. They declared war for a number of reasons, the main one being the Republicans loathing of Britain. Every single objective was missed.
They like to claim Britain wanted America back. It didn’t. It didn’t want to lose Canada. It wanted the right to press British sailors on foreign ships - something all belligerent nations adhered to bar America in picking a fight. Britain never wanted a war. It was a tiny sideshow, the main event being the war against Napoleon.
The US publicises its big 44 gun frigates’ victories over 36 gun smaller frigates in a ‘fair fight’. Only Shannon/Chesapeake are actually matched. The main one they crow about is Constitution/Guerriere. They neglect to mention Guerriere had about half the weight of fire to Constitution and its advantage in mobility was negated by masts so rotten that it couldn’t manoeuvre to capacity or get away without them falling over the side, not that R.N. Captains ran away in those days.
By 1815, the US Navy was bottled up or lost. Constitution’s sister ship USS President was taken by the smaller HMS Endymion as a prize. USS Essex bas burned along with a few other ships. Privateers were captured by Britain at a ratio of 10-1. Insurance rates for British merchant ships stayed the same throughout the war, which demonstrated that the US navy was not able to interfere at all, in real terms.
The US lost its far east trade. Its capital was captured and after a nice dinner the British burned the White House down. The US economy was bankrupted totally by blockade and took 15 years to recover. They failed to take Canada - a prime objective.
By every measure they lost the war. It was a sideshow for the British. One that they won comprehensively. At the peace conference, Impressment wasn’t even discussed. Britain retained the right, but had no need. Napoleon was defeated and that form of ‘recruitment’ was not needed. The threat to Canada was over and Britain was all set to expand its interests (empire).
The biggest losers were the native Americans who were wiped out eventually, all agreements reneged on. The US gobbled up Florida and Louisiana at France/Spain’s expense and of course expanded slavery over the next 50 years. One thing the war did do was help define the US as a nation. That process finished in 1865 with the ending of the Civil War, of course. | | | |
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