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Figured it’d be good to do that for McKenna’s signings too:
Huge Hits Davis Broadhead Luongo Hirst
Hits Ladapo Clarke Harness
Middling Taylor Hutchinson Tuanzebe Ball Williams John-Jules Bakinson
Misses Keogh Scarlett Thompson Camara Ahadme
Unknown Travis Sarmiento
They'd all laugh at me if they knew what I was trying to do. To create a new strain of super-wine in half-an-hour with a fraction of nature's resources and a FOOL for an assistant. 'Bernard Black, he's mad,' they'd say, 'he's insane, he's dangerous.' Well I'll show them! I'll show them all!
Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 19:14 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue
I dunno.
For me it's either a signing that worked out or didn't. Someone who was good for a few months isn't really a good signing.
Unless however you've signed them as a short term loan in January and they have a massive effect on your season. Ala hirst had he not signed perm anyway.
So you are a dunno on whether a loan signing is binary in terms of great or gash? There is no middle eh?
So (and I apologise for being direct), if we signed Bonne tomorrow and he knocked in12 goals in the 2nd half of this season on a 6 month loan that would be a massive effect on our season yes?
Your constant poking at things and then running back to the Humpty Dumpty Wall of indifference is frustrating.
I'm sure both of us enjoyed this from Bonne?
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Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 06:47 - Jan 12 with 756 views
Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 23:08 - Jan 11 by Mach_foreignBlue
Paul Cook will always be a special moment in the history of the club.
Those who criticise the Demolition Job are pure ballbags.
Yes he failed. Not the first not the last manager. He had to go.
But.....it is a very big but.
He'd open a new chapter for us. He did purge our changing room. He did clean it by eliminating a changing room from the rotten Skuse/Chambers culture.....very rotten culture....nice and easy payday Ipswich culture.
These days and what we are seeing from our players. A different world. Playing for the wages they get.
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This is irrefutable so it beggars belief that there’s still an under current of sentiment contrary to this. Any manager we’ve had since Burley pales into insignificance compared to McKenna but the job Cook and GameChanger did to lay the foundations for McKenna is part of today’s success.
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Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 06:59 - Jan 12 with 747 views
Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 06:47 - Jan 12 by ibbleobble
This is irrefutable so it beggars belief that there’s still an under current of sentiment contrary to this. Any manager we’ve had since Burley pales into insignificance compared to McKenna but the job Cook and GameChanger did to lay the foundations for McKenna is part of today’s success.
You can't say that Joe Royle pales into insignificance. He was a very good manager.
Cook and GameChanger would start a new chapter indeed.
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Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 07:51 - Jan 12 with 707 views
Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 23:08 - Jan 11 by Mach_foreignBlue
Paul Cook will always be a special moment in the history of the club.
Those who criticise the Demolition Job are pure ballbags.
Yes he failed. Not the first not the last manager. He had to go.
But.....it is a very big but.
He'd open a new chapter for us. He did purge our changing room. He did clean it by eliminating a changing room from the rotten Skuse/Chambers culture.....very rotten culture....nice and easy payday Ipswich culture.
These days and what we are seeing from our players. A different world. Playing for the wages they get.
[Post edited 11 Jan 23:09]
I see Paul Cook as, for lack of a better term, a necessary evil needed at the time.
He was a massive hypocrite though.
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Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 07:58 - Jan 12 with 698 views
Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 07:51 - Jan 12 by RobTheMonk
I see Paul Cook as, for lack of a better term, a necessary evil needed at the time.
He was a massive hypocrite though.
Cook wasn't good enough plain and simple but I think he wasn't good enough for the modern head coach role. Let's face it he barely had a say in a lot of the 20 signings that came in and in my opinion was massively disrespected when Ashton signed Edwards instead of Jacobs. Cook proved with the players that wanted to play for HIM are good players. We also didn't have Walton, Morsy & Edmundson starting games until September so we chucked a lot of points away in August 2021.
I'll be forever grateful for him to be bold enough to get rid of the Chambers/Skuse cushty environment. I think he was then let down by Ashton in the summer window.
Either way we have a genius in charge now so all good.
Beware of The Ipswich Cabbages
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Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 08:01 - Jan 12 with 679 views
Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 00:13 - Jan 12 by WicklowBlue
So you are a dunno on whether a loan signing is binary in terms of great or gash? There is no middle eh?
So (and I apologise for being direct), if we signed Bonne tomorrow and he knocked in12 goals in the 2nd half of this season on a 6 month loan that would be a massive effect on our season yes?
Your constant poking at things and then running back to the Humpty Dumpty Wall of indifference is frustrating.
I'm sure both of us enjoyed this from Bonne?
There is a middle I guess but not in this case.
He was a season loan. He had a few good months but then scored as a striker 1 in 30 games. For me that puts him in the bad signing pot purely as he was a season loan and not a short term one.
And of course yes if he signed tomorrow and scored 12 goals that fired us to promotion or a top 6 place then yes that would be a good short term loan as that would be the terms he's signed on for... short term.
Yes I enjoyed that goal. Bonne himself also scored some cracking goals with us. That volley v Millwall was it? Can't remember the visiting side. But the kvy long diag set up. That was also an excellent goal.
Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 23:08 - Jan 11 by Mach_foreignBlue
Paul Cook will always be a special moment in the history of the club.
Those who criticise the Demolition Job are pure ballbags.
Yes he failed. Not the first not the last manager. He had to go.
But.....it is a very big but.
He'd open a new chapter for us. He did purge our changing room. He did clean it by eliminating a changing room from the rotten Skuse/Chambers culture.....very rotten culture....nice and easy payday Ipswich culture.
These days and what we are seeing from our players. A different world. Playing for the wages they get.
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Your assumption that no other manager would have moved those players out is quite odd Mach, both coming towards the end of their careers but it could have been done with far more dignity and by a manager who had an idea of what he was trying to do with the team.
Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 08:03 - Jan 12 by Steve_M
Your assumption that no other manager would have moved those players out is quite odd Mach, both coming towards the end of their careers but it could have been done with far more dignity and by a manager who had an idea of what he was trying to do with the team.
Almost entire team had to be kicked out Steve. The dressing room was rotten well and truly. The players didn't play for the shirt.
Alan Judge saying after the Rochdale game that 0-0 at theirs wasn't a bad result The list of bad things from that era can go on and on.
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Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 08:17 - Jan 12 with 649 views
Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 08:13 - Jan 12 by Mach_foreignBlue
Almost entire team had to be kicked out Steve. The dressing room was rotten well and truly. The players didn't play for the shirt.
Alan Judge saying after the Rochdale game that 0-0 at theirs wasn't a bad result The list of bad things from that era can go on and on.
Alan Judge turned into one of the lamest footballers I've ever seen here. Towards the end of his time, his first thought was to turn backwards with the ball. He had no confidence in his own ability.
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Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 08:20 - Jan 12 with 643 views
Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 20:20 - Jan 11 by Garv
Fraser could have come good in the right set up given time*. Piggot was just totally poor and never looked like he could do it. Harsh to put them in the same bracket in my opinion.
*Completely right call to let him go, however.
It's really not. Fraser looked poor in the game time he got here. They were both huge flops.
Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 06:47 - Jan 12 by ibbleobble
This is irrefutable so it beggars belief that there’s still an under current of sentiment contrary to this. Any manager we’ve had since Burley pales into insignificance compared to McKenna but the job Cook and GameChanger did to lay the foundations for McKenna is part of today’s success.
Cook let a load of players go whose contracts were expiring anyway and was then very heavily backed to build a squad. He then spent half a season failing to get a tune out of that new squad and levelling similar criticisms at them as he'd levelled against the players he cleared out 6 months earlier. That anyone tries to rewrite his time here as anything other than a car crash beggars belief. He was hopeless and the fact we still have some of his signings flourishing under a much better manager doesn't change that.
Of the players signed by Cookie "that summer" on 00:05 - Jan 12 by TractorFrog
I would go with this:
Figured it’d be good to do that for McKenna’s signings too:
Huge Hits Davis Broadhead Luongo Hirst
Hits Ladapo Clarke Harness
Middling Taylor Hutchinson Tuanzebe Ball Williams John-Jules Bakinson
Misses Keogh Scarlett Thompson Camara Ahadme
Unknown Travis Sarmiento
I think Thompson could go in middling, he played every week in what was a decent side in 2nd half of the season, wasn't good enough to remain after that but did a decent enough job and certainly wasn't a miss for me.
Ball and John-Jules would prob be misses as we got very little out of them mainly due to injury