| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories 06:51 - Apr 7 with 7915 views | GlasgowBlue |
Not Labour.
Not in the same scale but shades of “Starmer protected Jimmy Savile”. |  |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:49 - Apr 7 with 1226 views | GlasgowBlue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:39 - Apr 7 by tractordownsouth |
Yeah really grim, can’t defend that at all. There are plenty of ways to attack the government’s record on crime without resorting to that. |
And slightly ironic considering Starmer was on the sentencing council that determined guidelines for sexual assault of children.
A point not lost on Diane Abbott.
I give it until tonight before the ad is deleted. | |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:50 - Apr 7 with 1219 views | lowhouseblue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:46 - Apr 7 by leitrimblue |
Yer, this is definitely the main concern of working class families. It's not wether they can afford to keep the heating on or wether they can afford to feed the kids on the day before payday. Labour clearly has its finger on the pulse when it comes to the concerns of the working class |
again, you're reading stuff that isn't there. and yes, crime, and this government's failures to tackle it, is very much ONE concern for a big proportion of voters. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:51 - Apr 7 with 1205 views | leitrimblue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:37 - Apr 7 by BanksterDebtSlave |
No need to worry about those people, they will be back to not bothering to vote again. So, job done! |
The working class were getting a bit uppity under Corbyn and getting these stupid ideas about equality and a fairer more just society. That's the last thing we want as it may impact very slightly on my otherwise comfortable middle class existence |  | | |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:54 - Apr 7 with 1182 views | leitrimblue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:50 - Apr 7 by lowhouseblue |
again, you're reading stuff that isn't there. and yes, crime, and this government's failures to tackle it, is very much ONE concern for a big proportion of voters. |
A very minor concern for many compared to keeping their families warm and feed | | | |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:57 - Apr 7 with 1159 views | lowhouseblue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:51 - Apr 7 by leitrimblue |
The working class were getting a bit uppity under Corbyn and getting these stupid ideas about equality and a fairer more just society. That's the last thing we want as it may impact very slightly on my otherwise comfortable middle class existence |
so inspired by corbyn in fact that they gave boris the biggest majority since 1935. i know it's fun to rewrite history, but jeez. 2019 as a brave and decisive victory for socialism is some stretch. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:03 - Apr 7 with 1140 views | leitrimblue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:57 - Apr 7 by lowhouseblue |
so inspired by corbyn in fact that they gave boris the biggest majority since 1935. i know it's fun to rewrite history, but jeez. 2019 as a brave and decisive victory for socialism is some stretch. |
Perhaps I'm being crazy but I think it might just be a wise move to give um a alternative option from centre or far right though. Or even for Labour to attempt to deal with the concerns of the poorest in society rather then pandering to Daily Mail readers, Jeremy Clarksons and Zapers | | | |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:06 - Apr 7 with 1094 views | GlasgowBlue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:03 - Apr 7 by leitrimblue |
Perhaps I'm being crazy but I think it might just be a wise move to give um a alternative option from centre or far right though. Or even for Labour to attempt to deal with the concerns of the poorest in society rather then pandering to Daily Mail readers, Jeremy Clarksons and Zapers |
Crime is an issue that disproportionately affects the poorest in society, so focusing on law and order isn't pandering to Daily Mail readers, | |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:10 - Apr 7 with 1071 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:54 - Apr 7 by leitrimblue |
A very minor concern for many compared to keeping their families warm and feed |
Have to disagree on this point. Until recently I lived in social housing and crime was very high on concerns. When you have f all and you can’t get to work because someone has broken into your car, or people that were burgled (that don’t have a lot anyway) whilst at work. It isn’t great if you are living week to week.
After all the years of austerity criminals are able to operate brazenly without fear of being caught by patrolling police, and guaranteed it will never be investigated.
That said I think the ad is race to the bottom type stuff |  | | |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:15 - Apr 7 with 1061 views | leitrimblue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:06 - Apr 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Crime is an issue that disproportionately affects the poorest in society, so focusing on law and order isn't pandering to Daily Mail readers, |
But the advert isn't about burglary, knife crime or the crimes that disproportionately affect the poorest in society is it? And I'm pretty sure your not suggesting that child abuse disproportionately affects the poorest in society. So yer, I will stick to it being pandering to Daily Mail readers | | | |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:18 - Apr 7 with 1041 views | leitrimblue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:10 - Apr 7 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Have to disagree on this point. Until recently I lived in social housing and crime was very high on concerns. When you have f all and you can’t get to work because someone has broken into your car, or people that were burgled (that don’t have a lot anyway) whilst at work. It isn’t great if you are living week to week.
After all the years of austerity criminals are able to operate brazenly without fear of being caught by patrolling police, and guaranteed it will never be investigated.
That said I think the ad is race to the bottom type stuff |
See my reply to GB below. Its not that crime isn't a problem it's that this ad doesn't confront the genuine crime issues suffered by people in poorer communities. | | | |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:43 - Apr 7 with 973 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:57 - Apr 7 by lowhouseblue |
so inspired by corbyn in fact that they gave boris the biggest majority since 1935. i know it's fun to rewrite history, but jeez. 2019 as a brave and decisive victory for socialism is some stretch. |
Brexit innit....but you know that! |  |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:48 - Apr 7 with 966 views | leitrimblue |
You honestly think that this is what Labour are getting at through this ad campaign? | | | |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:48 - Apr 7 with 967 views | Trequartista |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:57 - Apr 7 by lowhouseblue |
so inspired by corbyn in fact that they gave boris the biggest majority since 1935. i know it's fun to rewrite history, but jeez. 2019 as a brave and decisive victory for socialism is some stretch. |
i agree with your general point that 2019 was a bad defeat for Labour, but were the Conservative victories of the 1980s not >100 majorities, whereas Boris' majority was 80? |  |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:49 - Apr 7 with 967 views | BlueBadger |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 10:45 - Apr 7 by Zapers |
You mean the lines that win votes? |
You'll be voting Labour then? |  |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 13:01 - Apr 7 with 930 views | lowhouseblue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:03 - Apr 7 by leitrimblue |
Perhaps I'm being crazy but I think it might just be a wise move to give um a alternative option from centre or far right though. Or even for Labour to attempt to deal with the concerns of the poorest in society rather then pandering to Daily Mail readers, Jeremy Clarksons and Zapers |
it's not some academic exercise in giving "an alternative option". it's about forming a government. that is impossible without the centre. if your politics don't acknowledge that reality it's all just a lot of waffle. | |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 13:13 - Apr 7 with 876 views | leitrimblue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 13:01 - Apr 7 by lowhouseblue |
it's not some academic exercise in giving "an alternative option". it's about forming a government. that is impossible without the centre. if your politics don't acknowledge that reality it's all just a lot of waffle. |
Your right, more of the same or very, very slightly better that is what we need | | | |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 13:18 - Apr 7 with 842 views | GlasgowBlue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 12:48 - Apr 7 by leitrimblue |
You honestly think that this is what Labour are getting at through this ad campaign? |
No. Hence my op. But that’s not the point you were arguing. You said child abuse doesn't disproportionally affect the poorest in society. | |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 13:23 - Apr 7 with 842 views | leitrimblue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 13:18 - Apr 7 by GlasgowBlue |
No. Hence my op. But that’s not the point you were arguing. You said child abuse doesn't disproportionally affect the poorest in society. |
No, I said it's not their main crime concern. I still don't believe it is | | | |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 19:42 - Apr 7 with 680 views | BlueBadger |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 11:35 - Apr 7 by MattinLondon |
Lamberts PR stunts being the political equivalent of ‘Stop the boats’ etc. |
Brexit was the ultimate 'but the match day experience is much better'. | |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 20:18 - Apr 7 with 630 views | bournemouthblue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 09:23 - Apr 7 by Guthrum |
I was also disappointed by Labour's local election launch slogan "The party of lower taxes for working people", rather than promoting better and fairer taxation to fund good public services. |
Is that really Labour's slogan?
Sounds like they are playing the Tories at their own game |  |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 21:17 - Apr 7 with 601 views | Swansea_Blue |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 20:18 - Apr 7 by bournemouthblue |
Is that really Labour's slogan?
Sounds like they are playing the Tories at their own game |
They probably are. It’s all focussed on the marginals and will have been focus-grouped, etc. Maybe people would like to see child molesters do a bit of time. It’s hardly the worst suggestion either, even if clumsily made and not the route I’d go down. But maybe what I’d want to see from an opposition wouldn’t fly with their lost red wall voters. |  |
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 06:01 - Apr 8 with 487 views | Darth_Koont |
As anyone left of Gordon Brown knows by now, these are visionless, immoral and self-serving people. This isn't a bug but a feature.
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| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 10:09 - Apr 8 with 410 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| This is the sort of attack ad you’d expect to see from the Tories on 06:01 - Apr 8 by Darth_Koont |
As anyone left of Gordon Brown knows by now, these are visionless, immoral and self-serving people. This isn't a bug but a feature.
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Racist tweet?! |  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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