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Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 14:52 - May 25 by J2BLUE
I would think of it more for night time defence if needed. Even then it would depend on the state laws. I think it could be of use. I'd be all for a UK style approach to guns but it's not going to happen.
I just don't think it's the level of defence that you are ascribing.
You have to hear the person breaking in, wake up from sleep, unlock a box and then have the balls to actually shoot someone. I think at any of those points, if the person has a gun and see you going for a gun they are going to shoot you.
"I'd be all for a UK style approach to guns but it's not going to happen."
It's definitely not going to happen if someone who would support a UK approach to guns would still have a gun if they lived in the US. It's a self-fulfilling need if this is the reasoning.
I'm just quite surprised by your statement, that is all.
SB
[Post edited 25 May 2022 14:57]
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Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 15:03 - May 25 with 971 views
Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 14:56 - May 25 by StokieBlue
I just don't think it's the level of defence that you are ascribing.
You have to hear the person breaking in, wake up from sleep, unlock a box and then have the balls to actually shoot someone. I think at any of those points, if the person has a gun and see you going for a gun they are going to shoot you.
"I'd be all for a UK style approach to guns but it's not going to happen."
It's definitely not going to happen if someone who would support a UK approach to guns would still have a gun if they lived in the US. It's a self-fulfilling need if this is the reasoning.
I'm just quite surprised by your statement, that is all.
SB
[Post edited 25 May 2022 14:57]
I may not have thought it through. I very much doubt I could pull the trigger anyway.
Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 14:56 - May 25 by StokieBlue
I just don't think it's the level of defence that you are ascribing.
You have to hear the person breaking in, wake up from sleep, unlock a box and then have the balls to actually shoot someone. I think at any of those points, if the person has a gun and see you going for a gun they are going to shoot you.
"I'd be all for a UK style approach to guns but it's not going to happen."
It's definitely not going to happen if someone who would support a UK approach to guns would still have a gun if they lived in the US. It's a self-fulfilling need if this is the reasoning.
I'm just quite surprised by your statement, that is all.
SB
[Post edited 25 May 2022 14:57]
I think we all agree the answer is to have fewer guns, and preferably none at all.
It's a fair point that if there are children in the household a gun must be securely locked up, which leads to the point that if it is securely locked up it would take more time to have it ready for use, also that it's likely to be the middle of the night so one would not be fully awake which could even lead to mistakes. There's the fear of mistaken identity; a member of the household going to the bathroom in the night...
As Illers alluded to earlier you're going to be influenced by where you live and the crime rates. There's probably a massive difference between his neighbourhood and someone who lives out the sticks somewhere or in a rough area who is feeling more vulnerable.
The only solution is of course no guns at all, but that's not gonna happen there anytime soon. Leadership on this has got to come from the top and it doesn't seem there's been even the smallest step towards countering the problem to date. Anyone threatening to bring in such legislation is going to have a fight to get elected/stay elected.
We're not even talking about people being irritated at the prospect of losing the right to bear arms, we're talking a number of people who would riot if the right to own a garage full of assault rifles were to be removed!
Let alone taking away all firearms completely.
Yes it's madness to us, and I will never have to make that decision, but I can understand why someone living in an area where guns were prominent would want one in the bedroom or similar.
Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 15:03 - May 25 by J2BLUE
I may not have thought it through. I very much doubt I could pull the trigger anyway.
Maybe an interesting way to think about it is, American adults have chosen to protected themselves, at the cost of letting people kill some of their children at school.
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Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 15:47 - May 25 with 899 views
Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 11:58 - May 25 by waveneyblue
In isolation - its fine, we all move on
Obsessing over someone's weight to the point that they can't type his name without the accompanying insult - is very different
what is it that you find acceptable about that (oh, sorry that's your hilarious put down - my bad)
See now, it's not the classiest move to keep calling him 'fat' but given that he's built his career on saying genuinely hateful things about various groups in society and generally stoking hate to further his career, I' can't say as I'm as overly bothered about it as I am, say, rampant hypcrisy over people saying Howwid Fings.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 16:32 - May 25 by BlueBadger
See now, it's not the classiest move to keep calling him 'fat' but given that he's built his career on saying genuinely hateful things about various groups in society and generally stoking hate to further his career, I' can't say as I'm as overly bothered about it as I am, say, rampant hypcrisy over people saying Howwid Fings.
Are you this tedious in "real life" or do you just present this image on the internet for personal entertainment value ?
I really hope for your family and acquaintances that its the latter
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Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 18:55 - May 25 with 823 views
Incredible press conference. So utterly tone deaf from the officials. None of them acknowledging the issue and went mental talking about politicising the event when someone did. Then mentioned god.
Ted Cruz standing in the background. Shameless ****.
Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 18:55 - May 25 by J2BLUE
Incredible press conference. So utterly tone deaf from the officials. None of them acknowledging the issue and went mental talking about politicising the event when someone did. Then mentioned god.
Ted Cruz standing in the background. Shameless ****.
It's beyond parody because you know exactly how it's going to go.
If it was terrorism the person was evil and beyond help, they hate our ideals etc.
If it was not, it's mental health that's the problem. Are we going to talk about why people with mental health issues have access to guns specifically designed for human combat purposes? No.
Also we're not going to pay for more mental health support as that's socialism. Once you're born you can go fúck yourself.
Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 19:05 - May 25 by DanTheMan
It's beyond parody because you know exactly how it's going to go.
If it was terrorism the person was evil and beyond help, they hate our ideals etc.
If it was not, it's mental health that's the problem. Are we going to talk about why people with mental health issues have access to guns specifically designed for human combat purposes? No.
Also we're not going to pay for more mental health support as that's socialism. Once you're born you can go fúck yourself.
That was like something out of South Park at times.
Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 18:55 - May 25 by J2BLUE
Incredible press conference. So utterly tone deaf from the officials. None of them acknowledging the issue and went mental talking about politicising the event when someone did. Then mentioned god.
Ted Cruz standing in the background. Shameless ****.
I am not sure what has been issued here, but the US does have a huge problem with the consequences of having virtually no gun control.
That problem being the reaction of so many US citizens, unwilling to accept that laxity has any connection with the regular mass shootings that occur.
A society where wandering around with a gun is normal is bound to be one where people come to accept death by a gun as normal also
Maybe if there weren't so many guns around there would not be the high levels of paranoia that exist in the US.
And maybe the words cause and effect should be taught in schools, as it appears far too late to try to explain things to a fair number of adults in the US.
And up the age requirement to own a fun to 25, then 30. In that way let future generations know a life without gun ownership.
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Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 20:10 - May 25 with 772 views
I've worked for US multinationals all my life and we need to avoid stereotyping a whole nation. Many many many Americans are sharing our disgust, outrage and shock as to what has happened.
Anecdotally several years ago was at an off-site leadership meeting and having some beers. One VP was sharing photos of his birthday present given to him by his daughter. Can't remember exactly the make/model but think M16 but bigger. We all asked what the hell do you need that amount of firepower for and he said for killing boars! He was ex-military which I personally think is another influence in areas of the US. If challenged about the craziness of having so many military grade automatic weapons the answer was it's my constitutional right and got very nasty when we dug into that. In certain parts of US society it's a really institutional way of thinking and they'd literally shoot you to retain their rights.
I spent an hour today with my US team who are absolutely devastated around this latest attrocity. The US really needs some strong leaders to stand up and make a difference over the long term, whether there is any hope of cross party support for this I doubt. The NRA are paying too many politicians too much on both sides. We can but hope.
I'll also add how much this shocked me back in 2002 when I watched it:
That horrific shooting happened on April 20th 1999. 23 years later has anything changed? No, because there is no political concensus to do so and too many invested interests and money involved. If you haven't watched Bowling For Columbine do!
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Looks like another school shooting in the US... on 23:24 - Jun 23 with 578 views
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