| Operation distraction 22:39 - Apr 13 with 2551 views | SitfcB |
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| Operation distraction on 22:47 - Apr 13 with 2069 views | ElderGrizzly |
Indeed. His Telegraph chums doing some heavy lifting here
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| Operation distraction on 23:17 - Apr 13 with 2009 views | EastTownBlue |
| Operation distraction on 22:47 - Apr 13 by ElderGrizzly |
Indeed. His Telegraph chums doing some heavy lifting here
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Even though there is a war on Patel will be out there tomorrow to sign the deal. [Post edited 13 Apr 2022 23:21]
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| Operation distraction on 23:47 - Apr 13 with 1980 views | factual_blue |
| Operation distraction on 23:17 - Apr 13 by EastTownBlue |
Even though there is a war on Patel will be out there tomorrow to sign the deal. [Post edited 13 Apr 2022 23:21]
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...A deal which will be constructed in a way that ensures nobody is actually sent there.
Also, it smacks of the Madagascar Plan, which is worth Googling. |  |
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| Operation distraction on 06:47 - Apr 14 with 1799 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Operation distraction on 23:17 - Apr 13 by EastTownBlue |
Even though there is a war on Patel will be out there tomorrow to sign the deal. [Post edited 13 Apr 2022 23:21]
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Yep, she’s there boasting about it
Sending desperate people to a country thousands of miles away
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| Operation distraction on 06:52 - Apr 14 with 1785 views | Plums |
| Operation distraction on 23:47 - Apr 13 by factual_blue |
...A deal which will be constructed in a way that ensures nobody is actually sent there.
Also, it smacks of the Madagascar Plan, which is worth Googling. |
My first thought was Madagascar. <shivers> |  |
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| Operation distraction on 06:58 - Apr 14 with 1756 views | m14_blue |
What a horrible, spiteful, pathetic little country we've become. | | | |
| Operation distraction on 07:00 - Apr 14 with 1746 views | BlueBadger |
| Operation distraction on 06:58 - Apr 14 by m14_blue |
What a horrible, spiteful, pathetic little country we've become. |
This ist the thing isn't it? There are enough vile Jeremy Hunts out there that'll lap this up that means this will actually work ok for them. |  |
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| Operation distraction on 07:27 - Apr 14 with 1703 views | BlueBoots |
BJ's way of apologising to his hardcore following..."I'm sorry about all the parties, but I'm still that chap you love who got Brexit done and I've found a nice new way to victimise foreigners for you!"
I've actually reached the point where I'm embarrassed and ashamed to live in this country now - if anyone wants to downvote this comment or throw in a reply along the lines of "Well, if you hate this country so much, why don't you move somewhere else?" please feel free, as only having one member on my ignore list is getting a bit boring... |  |
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| Operation distraction on 07:38 - Apr 14 with 1676 views | Guthrum |
| Operation distraction on 23:47 - Apr 13 by factual_blue |
...A deal which will be constructed in a way that ensures nobody is actually sent there.
Also, it smacks of the Madagascar Plan, which is worth Googling. |
Indeed. Are they really going to pay to send them all the way out there and then (in theory) bring them back again? Plus escorts and basing staff in the country to handle arrivals?
Not to mention the carbon footprint. |  |
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| Operation distraction on 07:44 - Apr 14 with 1665 views | DanTheMan |
Apparently this is going to cost at least £120million.
So even if we ignore all the other obvious moral questions here, surely this isn't even value for money? Seems like an insane solution.
Why Rwanda too? It's not exactly known for it's stellar human rights record, although maybe that is the point. |  |
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| Operation distraction on 07:53 - Apr 14 with 1639 views | Steve_M |
| Operation distraction on 07:44 - Apr 14 by DanTheMan |
Apparently this is going to cost at least £120million.
So even if we ignore all the other obvious moral questions here, surely this isn't even value for money? Seems like an insane solution.
Why Rwanda too? It's not exactly known for it's stellar human rights record, although maybe that is the point. |
Aside from the inherent, gratuitous cruelty of it all, it doesn't work as the Australian scheme shows and also Israel doing the same with Rwanda.
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| Operation distraction on 08:01 - Apr 14 with 1616 views | TractorWood |
| Operation distraction on 07:44 - Apr 14 by DanTheMan |
Apparently this is going to cost at least £120million.
So even if we ignore all the other obvious moral questions here, surely this isn't even value for money? Seems like an insane solution.
Why Rwanda too? It's not exactly known for it's stellar human rights record, although maybe that is the point. |
That's the cost of the trial. If implemented it's estimated to be £1.4bn.
It's all part of the humiliation from realising that Brexit has done nothing to enhance our Border security. Which was obvious at the time but the same people who voted for Brexit will be the same people who will lap this up, defend Boris after the weekly scandals and turn a blind eye to anything because they know the Tories won't put tax up unless we are on the verge of bankruptcy.
There is audible hate for Boris and the Tories. However, I'm not convinced that the Home Counties, agri, middle class hoards that sit in safe generational Tory seats are going to change their minds any time soon. They will quietly vote Tory to the outrage of the louder labour voters and it will be BAU for another 4 years under another Dunning Kruger populist. [Post edited 14 Apr 2022 8:28]
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| Operation distraction on 08:05 - Apr 14 with 1598 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Operation distraction on 08:01 - Apr 14 by TractorWood |
That's the cost of the trial. If implemented it's estimated to be £1.4bn.
It's all part of the humiliation from realising that Brexit has done nothing to enhance our Border security. Which was obvious at the time but the same people who voted for Brexit will be the same people who will lap this up, defend Boris after the weekly scandals and turn a blind eye to anything because they know the Tories won't put tax up unless we are on the verge of bankruptcy.
There is audible hate for Boris and the Tories. However, I'm not convinced that the Home Counties, agri, middle class hoards that sit in safe generational Tory seats are going to change their minds any time soon. They will quietly vote Tory to the outrage of the louder labour voters and it will be BAU for another 4 years under another Dunning Kruger populist. [Post edited 14 Apr 2022 8:28]
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And the Minister for Refugees denied it was happening just 8 days ago
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| Operation distraction on 08:12 - Apr 14 with 1581 views | noggin |
Take them away from exploitation by criminal gangs and send them to the safety of, erm... Rawanda. I was thinking this must be a sick April Fool joke, but no. |  |
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| Operation distraction on 08:14 - Apr 14 with 1572 views | DanTheMan |
| Operation distraction on 08:01 - Apr 14 by TractorWood |
That's the cost of the trial. If implemented it's estimated to be £1.4bn.
It's all part of the humiliation from realising that Brexit has done nothing to enhance our Border security. Which was obvious at the time but the same people who voted for Brexit will be the same people who will lap this up, defend Boris after the weekly scandals and turn a blind eye to anything because they know the Tories won't put tax up unless we are on the verge of bankruptcy.
There is audible hate for Boris and the Tories. However, I'm not convinced that the Home Counties, agri, middle class hoards that sit in safe generational Tory seats are going to change their minds any time soon. They will quietly vote Tory to the outrage of the louder labour voters and it will be BAU for another 4 years under another Dunning Kruger populist. [Post edited 14 Apr 2022 8:28]
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Christ almighty. I can't believe this is even being considered. | |
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| Operation distraction on 08:31 - Apr 14 with 1502 views | Mullet |
| Operation distraction on 08:14 - Apr 14 by DanTheMan |
Christ almighty. I can't believe this is even being considered. |
It's very in keeping with their MO, especially as the pressure from their own arrogance is mounting. Surely there must be a sense that the massive majority they were gifted is at risk.
Imagine being the type of person this plays well to, it's staggering how backward our collective sense of decency is slipping. The fact they can afford to lose so much in COVID fraud but can't fund public services is the worst of it.
The very reason people fall for this is the damage done by austerity and decades of Tory rule. |  |
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| Operation distraction on 08:31 - Apr 14 with 1502 views | TractorWood |
| Operation distraction on 08:14 - Apr 14 by DanTheMan |
Christ almighty. I can't believe this is even being considered. |
It's the Tory playbook. Outsource via ridiculous contracts. If it goes wrong blame the outsource, if it goes well take the credit. Either way we foot the bill. The concept of privatisation is at least driven by tax payer efficiency, this is just admitting we aren't up to managing it. | |
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| Operation distraction on 08:39 - Apr 14 with 1471 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Operation distraction on 07:00 - Apr 14 by BlueBadger |
This ist the thing isn't it? There are enough vile Jeremy Hunts out there that'll lap this up that means this will actually work ok for them. |
At least we can rest assured that none of them will be competent enough to pull this off. | | | |
| Operation distraction on 08:45 - Apr 14 with 1443 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
I don't think this is a distraction, clearly been I'm the works for a while.
This is one of the worst ideas any government has come up with, ever.
The cost alone seems like a huge waste of tax payer money, add to that the inhumanity of it. This does have Priti Patel bolt of inspiration written all over it |  |
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| Operation distraction on 08:51 - Apr 14 with 1407 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Operation distraction on 08:31 - Apr 14 by TractorWood |
It's the Tory playbook. Outsource via ridiculous contracts. If it goes wrong blame the outsource, if it goes well take the credit. Either way we foot the bill. The concept of privatisation is at least driven by tax payer efficiency, this is just admitting we aren't up to managing it. |
They'll probably dress it up as an Education Outreach programme sponsored by the British Council or something | | | |
| Operation distraction on 08:58 - Apr 14 with 1378 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Operation distraction on 08:45 - Apr 14 by BlueandTruesince82 |
I don't think this is a distraction, clearly been I'm the works for a while.
This is one of the worst ideas any government has come up with, ever.
The cost alone seems like a huge waste of tax payer money, add to that the inhumanity of it. This does have Priti Patel bolt of inspiration written all over it |
And you just know she'd be there to greet the first plane, waving a feck off sized Union Jack | | | |
| Operation distraction on 11:02 - Apr 14 with 1256 views | DanTheMan |
Looks like we're getting a bit more detail now which has left me even more confused.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61097114
Under the proposal, Rwanda would take responsibility for the people who make the more than 4,000 mile journey, put them through an asylum process, and at the end of that process, if they are successful, they will have long-term accommodation in Rwanda.
The BBC has seen accommodation the asylum seekers will be housed in, thought to have enough space for around 100 people at a time and to process up to 500 a year. Nearly 29,000 migrants crossed the Channel in 2021.
Am I reading this wrong, we're getting asylum seekers here, shipping them to Rwanda and then, if they are successful, they'll be rehomed in Rwanda? | |
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| Operation distraction on 11:08 - Apr 14 with 1220 views | footers |
| Operation distraction on 07:44 - Apr 14 by DanTheMan |
Apparently this is going to cost at least £120million.
So even if we ignore all the other obvious moral questions here, surely this isn't even value for money? Seems like an insane solution.
Why Rwanda too? It's not exactly known for it's stellar human rights record, although maybe that is the point. |
Maybe it's a joint-sponsorship deal with Arsenal? |  |
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| Operation distraction on 11:19 - Apr 14 with 1199 views | lowhouseblue |
| Operation distraction on 11:02 - Apr 14 by DanTheMan |
Looks like we're getting a bit more detail now which has left me even more confused.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61097114
Under the proposal, Rwanda would take responsibility for the people who make the more than 4,000 mile journey, put them through an asylum process, and at the end of that process, if they are successful, they will have long-term accommodation in Rwanda.
The BBC has seen accommodation the asylum seekers will be housed in, thought to have enough space for around 100 people at a time and to process up to 500 a year. Nearly 29,000 migrants crossed the Channel in 2021.
Am I reading this wrong, we're getting asylum seekers here, shipping them to Rwanda and then, if they are successful, they'll be rehomed in Rwanda? |
we'll have a month of parliamentary posturing, the trial will involve a couple of dozen people, and then we'll never hear of it again.
it will be "mostly single men the British authorities believe are inadmissible" - if the government's lawyers can't see where "believe are inadmissible" will end up the government needs new lawyers. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Operation distraction on 11:21 - Apr 14 with 1195 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Operation distraction on 11:02 - Apr 14 by DanTheMan |
Looks like we're getting a bit more detail now which has left me even more confused.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61097114
Under the proposal, Rwanda would take responsibility for the people who make the more than 4,000 mile journey, put them through an asylum process, and at the end of that process, if they are successful, they will have long-term accommodation in Rwanda.
The BBC has seen accommodation the asylum seekers will be housed in, thought to have enough space for around 100 people at a time and to process up to 500 a year. Nearly 29,000 migrants crossed the Channel in 2021.
Am I reading this wrong, we're getting asylum seekers here, shipping them to Rwanda and then, if they are successful, they'll be rehomed in Rwanda? |
To your last point yes. We are basically sending the 'problem' as Patel sees it to another country and paying them to do so.
A trade in humans if you like... | | | |
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