| new rules 18:16 - Nov 27 with 6997 views | textbackup |
They gonna make people pay for another pcr test on day 2 of arrival home? or allow that to be a nhs one?
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| new rules on 19:44 - Nov 27 with 1081 views | wkj |
| new rules on 19:42 - Nov 27 by Ely_Blue |
But no need to turn a perfectly sensible post and debate about the new rules into “our useless government blah blah”
For once it would be good to see a post that doesn’t take this turn |
Look at some of the points in this post. The UK government gave a teaser of new measures for this coming Monday. That's 2 days of people with plans having no clue what the rules will be. The government is very very much part of this discussion. |  |
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| new rules on 19:46 - Nov 27 with 1078 views | footers |
| new rules on 19:33 - Nov 27 by Ely_Blue |
I’m not sure what the “current pickle” by which I assume you are talking precautions against a variant that is coming from another country, has to do with people not wearing masks and taking responsibility.
Not that I am disagreeing with you on people not taking responsibility but why do you have to make EVERY post political? |
Because variants only arise if the virus is allowed to spread.
I make a political point about it because the government hasn't mandated mask wearing in most scenarios and has been fecking clueless in their response to covid. True, the new variant is from Africa but it could very well have come from here as well given the lax attitude this bunch of clowns has towards covid. This is a global issue.
And not all of my posts are political. I made one about dandelion and burdock just earlier. If you have any thoughts on that they'd be more than welcome. |  |
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| new rules on 19:46 - Nov 27 with 1075 views | noggin |
| new rules on 19:44 - Nov 27 by wkj |
Look at some of the points in this post. The UK government gave a teaser of new measures for this coming Monday. That's 2 days of people with plans having no clue what the rules will be. The government is very very much part of this discussion. |
Yeah but Labour and immigrants. |  |
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| new rules on 19:47 - Nov 27 with 1074 views | StokieBlue |
Your link backs up exactly what I said, the new research you've highlighted says that LFT are 80% or 90% accurate depending on the situation.
PCR tests are >99% accurate.
You can also track the variant and determine the strain of covid with a PCR which you can't do with LFT tests and this is clearly very important for testing of people coming into the country.
My colleague tested negative on LFT but positive on PCR on the same day two weeks ago.
It's obviously good news that LFT are more accurate than originally thought.
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| new rules on 19:48 - Nov 27 with 1046 views | wkj |
| new rules on 19:46 - Nov 27 by noggin |
Yeah but Labour and immigrants. |
I have to admit, I don't believe Labour would have handled it much better, or worse. | |
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| new rules on 19:50 - Nov 27 with 1029 views | footers |
| new rules on 19:48 - Nov 27 by wkj |
I have to admit, I don't believe Labour would have handled it much better, or worse. |
Depends how long a focus group would take deciding on what to do about it. | |
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| new rules on 19:51 - Nov 27 with 1025 views | wkj |
| new rules on 19:47 - Nov 27 by StokieBlue |
Your link backs up exactly what I said, the new research you've highlighted says that LFT are 80% or 90% accurate depending on the situation.
PCR tests are >99% accurate.
You can also track the variant and determine the strain of covid with a PCR which you can't do with LFT tests and this is clearly very important for testing of people coming into the country.
My colleague tested negative on LFT but positive on PCR on the same day two weeks ago.
It's obviously good news that LFT are more accurate than originally thought.
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I have heard a few people having false negatives on the LFT, but not false positives. | |
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| new rules on 19:54 - Nov 27 with 1018 views | bluelagos |
| new rules on 19:29 - Nov 27 by north_stand77 |
I really hope people take this seriously. There should be 'no way round it'
From a personal point of view, I have just been diagnosed with a very serious cancer for the second time in my life. Unfortunately it took so long to diagnose so I am way behind treatment. Part of the reason was because nhs were concentrating on covid, which was prioritised (properly so too, but not particularly helpful to me and thousands of others.)
If people take the new variant seriously, hopefully less people will be hospitalised and we all stand a better chance. If you have any doubts about jabs/maks etc, please bear this in mind as we all need to look after each ultimately |
Best wishes for the coming months and hope your treatment is sucessful. |  |
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| new rules on 19:58 - Nov 27 with 1011 views | jeera |
| new rules on 19:29 - Nov 27 by north_stand77 |
I really hope people take this seriously. There should be 'no way round it'
From a personal point of view, I have just been diagnosed with a very serious cancer for the second time in my life. Unfortunately it took so long to diagnose so I am way behind treatment. Part of the reason was because nhs were concentrating on covid, which was prioritised (properly so too, but not particularly helpful to me and thousands of others.)
If people take the new variant seriously, hopefully less people will be hospitalised and we all stand a better chance. If you have any doubts about jabs/maks etc, please bear this in mind as we all need to look after each ultimately |
I'm sorry to hear you're unwell again, it doesn't seem fair.
You are of course correct in what you say about much time and beds being taken up unnecessarily in hospitals because of people not behaving responsibly.
I hope your treatment gets underway soon and has the positive effect you're looking for.
Do still post when you feel up to it.
Best wishes. |  |
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| new rules on 19:59 - Nov 27 with 1014 views | factual_blue |
| new rules on 19:29 - Nov 27 by north_stand77 |
I really hope people take this seriously. There should be 'no way round it'
From a personal point of view, I have just been diagnosed with a very serious cancer for the second time in my life. Unfortunately it took so long to diagnose so I am way behind treatment. Part of the reason was because nhs were concentrating on covid, which was prioritised (properly so too, but not particularly helpful to me and thousands of others.)
If people take the new variant seriously, hopefully less people will be hospitalised and we all stand a better chance. If you have any doubts about jabs/maks etc, please bear this in mind as we all need to look after each ultimately |
All the very best.
And remember, lads and lasses, by deciding the rules don't apply to you, you're kicking people like this chap in the teeth. |  |
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| new rules on 20:01 - Nov 27 with 998 views | jeera |
| new rules on 19:59 - Nov 27 by factual_blue |
All the very best.
And remember, lads and lasses, by deciding the rules don't apply to you, you're kicking people like this chap in the teeth. |
Lady I believe. | |
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| new rules on 20:04 - Nov 27 with 981 views | itfcjoe |
| new rules on 18:54 - Nov 27 by StokieBlue |
Well unfortunately it was and I think when you've had time to reflect and aren't as angry you'll agree you shouldn't have posted it.
It's certainly unfortunate timing for your friends but it's the right thing to do to require more robust testing until we know more about Omicron. LFT isn't as accurate as PCR and doesn't allow genetic testing to track the spread of the variant.
It would be good if the cost of the LFT could be deducted from the PCR but I doubt any companies will be organised enough to do that.
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It just seems stupid you can’t just get a free walkthrough PCR test as an example at the walk in station at Portman Road - surely most of the cost is keeping these things open etc rather than just analysing a few more tests.
Even if there is a nominal fee due to NHS to pay for the extra admin |  |
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| new rules on 20:11 - Nov 27 with 948 views | factual_blue |
| new rules on 20:01 - Nov 27 by jeera |
Lady I believe. |
A lady?
Do you think I'm gaga? | |
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| new rules on 20:16 - Nov 27 with 925 views | bluelagos |
| new rules on 20:04 - Nov 27 by itfcjoe |
It just seems stupid you can’t just get a free walkthrough PCR test as an example at the walk in station at Portman Road - surely most of the cost is keeping these things open etc rather than just analysing a few more tests.
Even if there is a nominal fee due to NHS to pay for the extra admin |
I'm with you on this. Given the tests are self administered and self reported, surely having professionals administer them on arrival isnt beyond the wit of man.
But small steps, the pace of red listing SA is a millions miles from the dithering when the Delta variant was first highlighted. And the rule that you isolate until the test result is also a welcome improvement. | |
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| new rules on 20:18 - Nov 27 with 918 views | jeera |
| new rules on 20:11 - Nov 27 by factual_blue |
A lady?
Do you think I'm gaga? |
Not much room for doubt there tbf. | |
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| new rules on 20:22 - Nov 27 with 898 views | factual_blue |
| new rules on 20:18 - Nov 27 by jeera |
Not much room for doubt there tbf. |
Good point, well made.
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| new rules on 20:35 - Nov 27 with 875 views | textbackup |
| new rules on 19:17 - Nov 27 by blueblueburleymcgrew |
I’m in uncertain territory, return from holiday on Sunday 12 December I’m supposed to fly out on Monday 13th for a business trip. I have no idea right now how I will make the day 2 PCR test work. Suspect I will need to cancel one or both trips.
Ho hum , it is what it is. |
Get a test at airport on arrival back to uk, 4 hr turn around job
Wording states ‘get a pcr test before the end of day 2’ so if that’s 5mins after u land or 47.5hrs after, it’s still in the timescale they’ve mentioned
All travellers entering the UK will now have to take a PCR test within two days of entering the country and will have to self-isolate until a negative test is returned. [Post edited 27 Nov 2021 20:46]
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| new rules on 20:35 - Nov 27 with 871 views | factual_blue |
| new rules on 19:25 - Nov 27 by yesjohn99 |
The practice of changing just one digit from a legitimate code has sadly become common practice. |
You have, presumably, reported people you know have done this? | |
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| new rules on 20:47 - Nov 27 with 856 views | PhilTWTD |
| new rules on 19:29 - Nov 27 by north_stand77 |
I really hope people take this seriously. There should be 'no way round it'
From a personal point of view, I have just been diagnosed with a very serious cancer for the second time in my life. Unfortunately it took so long to diagnose so I am way behind treatment. Part of the reason was because nhs were concentrating on covid, which was prioritised (properly so too, but not particularly helpful to me and thousands of others.)
If people take the new variant seriously, hopefully less people will be hospitalised and we all stand a better chance. If you have any doubts about jabs/maks etc, please bear this in mind as we all need to look after each ultimately |
Very sorry to hear that. Hope all goes well with the treatment despite the delay. |  | | |
| new rules on 20:50 - Nov 27 with 835 views | Parky |
Not sure if it’s changing following Boris’ latest speech, but it’s all a load of rubbish, if you ask me.
Know people who got back from Greece and had to do their ‘day 2 tests’, but were allowed to go to work and socialise before getting their results back. Thankfully they were negative, but what was stopping somebody coming back with a new variant, going to work for 2 days, spreading galore and then doing the test when it’s clearly too late? |  | | |
| new rules on 20:53 - Nov 27 with 827 views | textbackup |
| new rules on 20:50 - Nov 27 by Parky |
Not sure if it’s changing following Boris’ latest speech, but it’s all a load of rubbish, if you ask me.
Know people who got back from Greece and had to do their ‘day 2 tests’, but were allowed to go to work and socialise before getting their results back. Thankfully they were negative, but what was stopping somebody coming back with a new variant, going to work for 2 days, spreading galore and then doing the test when it’s clearly too late? |
It clearly says ‘isolate until result is returned’
So you couldn’t go to work etc | |
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| new rules on 20:57 - Nov 27 with 814 views | Parky |
| new rules on 20:53 - Nov 27 by textbackup |
It clearly says ‘isolate until result is returned’
So you couldn’t go to work etc |
It definitely wasn’t like that a few months ago…
But good news that they’ve changed that. [Post edited 27 Nov 2021 20:58]
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| new rules on 21:14 - Nov 27 with 778 views | Vic |
| new rules on 19:59 - Nov 27 by factual_blue |
All the very best.
And remember, lads and lasses, by deciding the rules don't apply to you, you're kicking people like this chap in the teeth. |
This! |  |
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| new rules on 21:27 - Nov 27 with 752 views | blueblueburleymcgrew |
| new rules on 20:35 - Nov 27 by textbackup |
Get a test at airport on arrival back to uk, 4 hr turn around job
Wording states ‘get a pcr test before the end of day 2’ so if that’s 5mins after u land or 47.5hrs after, it’s still in the timescale they’ve mentioned
All travellers entering the UK will now have to take a PCR test within two days of entering the country and will have to self-isolate until a negative test is returned. [Post edited 27 Nov 2021 20:46]
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Good advice. Cheers. |  | | |
| new rules on 21:36 - Nov 27 with 734 views | footers |
| new rules on 19:59 - Nov 27 by factual_blue |
All the very best.
And remember, lads and lasses, by deciding the rules don't apply to you, you're kicking people like this chap in the teeth. |
But I really need to visit Barnard Castle for an eye test tomorrow? | |
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