| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? 12:51 - Nov 23 with 3261 views | JackPITFC |
Everyone seems to think we will lose, get behind the team, they haven't beaten a team in the top 9, we are at home.
Yes the performances have been worrying as late, and was disrupted against Shrewsbury with an early penalty and 2 Injuries to our midfield, but there is no reason we can't put in a good performance and win the game 18 points from 18 at home..
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 13:05 - Nov 23 with 2561 views | N2_Blue |
same as I predicted on another thread, i'm optimistic for Hull, just hope line up isn't too weak based on injuries |  |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 13:10 - Nov 23 with 2546 views | Metal_Hacker |
Your second paragraph did make me chuckle...then you ask why the negativity |  |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 13:13 - Nov 23 with 2544 views | Basuco |
Because we are only 3rd and some posters seem to think that by constantly moaning other posters who are not anti Paul Lambert will suddenly become anti Lambert. In reality posters who constantly snipe at Paul Lambert come across as tedious bores. Constructive criticism is fine, but it has now gone way past that on here recently. It's now time to accept where we are as a club and get behind the team. Just a thought. |  | | |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 13:43 - Nov 23 with 2492 views | hoppy |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 13:13 - Nov 23 by Basuco |
Because we are only 3rd and some posters seem to think that by constantly moaning other posters who are not anti Paul Lambert will suddenly become anti Lambert. In reality posters who constantly snipe at Paul Lambert come across as tedious bores. Constructive criticism is fine, but it has now gone way past that on here recently. It's now time to accept where we are as a club and get behind the team. Just a thought. |
Keep your sensible thoughts out of here please. You know the drill. |  |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 13:47 - Nov 23 with 2482 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
I am not anti-lambert nor pro-lambert really, just a realisation of where we are as a team.
I won't be suprised if Hull sting us tomorrow, nor will it teach us anything new that we don't already know about this squad, they generally don't compete with top 6 sides. |  |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 13:47 - Nov 23 with 2484 views | jayessess |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 13:13 - Nov 23 by Basuco |
Because we are only 3rd and some posters seem to think that by constantly moaning other posters who are not anti Paul Lambert will suddenly become anti Lambert. In reality posters who constantly snipe at Paul Lambert come across as tedious bores. Constructive criticism is fine, but it has now gone way past that on here recently. It's now time to accept where we are as a club and get behind the team. Just a thought. |
If I was in the stadium, during the 90 I'd try and be the most positive I could possibly be. On here? What am I supposed to be doing exactly? Are happy thoughts going to power us to victory? |  |
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| BANG ON! on 13:57 - Nov 23 with 2470 views | unstableblue |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 13:13 - Nov 23 by Basuco |
Because we are only 3rd and some posters seem to think that by constantly moaning other posters who are not anti Paul Lambert will suddenly become anti Lambert. In reality posters who constantly snipe at Paul Lambert come across as tedious bores. Constructive criticism is fine, but it has now gone way past that on here recently. It's now time to accept where we are as a club and get behind the team. Just a thought. |
I'm am very sceptical that Lambert is the long term solution for ITFC, he's perhaps not progressive and attacking enough on the pitch, and he's not that warm off the pitch for a family club. But there has been some progress, we are trying to embed a system that links far far far better to our academy ethos, and at least we're getting high possession - man our low possession even against lower teams used to do my head in. Time will tell, doesn't good rosy especially with the injuries.
But your point about the bores.... its just so juvenile and anti what this board is for. I left the board for 3 months, enjoyed being away, popped in for a view, and its the same 4 or 5 bores, as you say "that by constantly moaning at other posters who are not anti Paul Lambert will suddenly become anti Lambert". There's two today who are just unable to be civil, its their view or nothing. I'm just feeling again is to worth being on here? you wouldn't choose to spend time with these people in the pub after a game. Its just sad. |  |
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| BANG ON! on 14:41 - Nov 23 with 2413 views | JackPITFC |
| BANG ON! on 13:57 - Nov 23 by unstableblue |
I'm am very sceptical that Lambert is the long term solution for ITFC, he's perhaps not progressive and attacking enough on the pitch, and he's not that warm off the pitch for a family club. But there has been some progress, we are trying to embed a system that links far far far better to our academy ethos, and at least we're getting high possession - man our low possession even against lower teams used to do my head in. Time will tell, doesn't good rosy especially with the injuries.
But your point about the bores.... its just so juvenile and anti what this board is for. I left the board for 3 months, enjoyed being away, popped in for a view, and its the same 4 or 5 bores, as you say "that by constantly moaning at other posters who are not anti Paul Lambert will suddenly become anti Lambert". There's two today who are just unable to be civil, its their view or nothing. I'm just feeling again is to worth being on here? you wouldn't choose to spend time with these people in the pub after a game. Its just sad. |
Great Piece here, i'm with you on Lambert if a change was made i wouldn't be against it, but in reality a team that's 3rd with 6 wins from 6 at home, with over 2 points a game aren't going to sack their manager, it's a very good return so far.
Has it been frustrating? Yes, but let's remember we have picked up these points not playing well so hopefully 'if' / when the performances get better, we continue to pick up the points also.
Realistically nothing short of promotion this season would be a catastrophic failure and would leave us in a heap of trouble in regards to player contracts and wages, whether Lambert is the long term man, i have my doubts, but here and now he is thus far delivering results on the pitch and long may it continue. [Post edited 23 Nov 2020 14:42]
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| BANG ON! on 14:48 - Nov 23 with 2392 views | Beckets |
| BANG ON! on 14:41 - Nov 23 by JackPITFC |
Great Piece here, i'm with you on Lambert if a change was made i wouldn't be against it, but in reality a team that's 3rd with 6 wins from 6 at home, with over 2 points a game aren't going to sack their manager, it's a very good return so far.
Has it been frustrating? Yes, but let's remember we have picked up these points not playing well so hopefully 'if' / when the performances get better, we continue to pick up the points also.
Realistically nothing short of promotion this season would be a catastrophic failure and would leave us in a heap of trouble in regards to player contracts and wages, whether Lambert is the long term man, i have my doubts, but here and now he is thus far delivering results on the pitch and long may it continue. [Post edited 23 Nov 2020 14:42]
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I would say performances are deteriorating generally as the season has progressed. I have little faith that Lambert is capable of turning that trend around as I’ve seen little evidence of his ability to do that in over 2 years here. |  | | |
| BANG ON! on 14:50 - Nov 23 with 2376 views | Herbivore |
| BANG ON! on 13:57 - Nov 23 by unstableblue |
I'm am very sceptical that Lambert is the long term solution for ITFC, he's perhaps not progressive and attacking enough on the pitch, and he's not that warm off the pitch for a family club. But there has been some progress, we are trying to embed a system that links far far far better to our academy ethos, and at least we're getting high possession - man our low possession even against lower teams used to do my head in. Time will tell, doesn't good rosy especially with the injuries.
But your point about the bores.... its just so juvenile and anti what this board is for. I left the board for 3 months, enjoyed being away, popped in for a view, and its the same 4 or 5 bores, as you say "that by constantly moaning at other posters who are not anti Paul Lambert will suddenly become anti Lambert". There's two today who are just unable to be civil, its their view or nothing. I'm just feeling again is to worth being on here? you wouldn't choose to spend time with these people in the pub after a game. Its just sad. |
Possession is really not worth all that much when 90% of it is triangles involving your two CBs and your goalie though. We aren't really creating chances for all the possession we have and that's a big worry. I don't honestly see that we are making progress, in fact as the season is moving forward our performances seem to be going backwards. And that's very much in keeping with Lambert's last two seasons here too where early promise gives way to turgid football and poor results. |  |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 14:53 - Nov 23 with 2374 views | Mullet |
Some stunning irony on this thread eh?
I guess the moaning and moaning about moaning accentuate the razor sharp football analysis? It's surely more telling that any praise for the current run is always heavily caveated and laden with emotive accusations no? |  |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 14:59 - Nov 23 with 2349 views | Herbivore |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 14:53 - Nov 23 by Mullet |
Some stunning irony on this thread eh?
I guess the moaning and moaning about moaning accentuate the razor sharp football analysis? It's surely more telling that any praise for the current run is always heavily caveated and laden with emotive accusations no? |
There's something of a parallel between those supporting Lambert and those supporting the Tories and Brexit. Those who look at what's actually happening and point out that it's not great aren't met with counter arguments, we're just accused of being negative and told to get behind the team. [Post edited 23 Nov 2020 15:16]
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| BANG ON! on 15:06 - Nov 23 with 2338 views | blueislander |
| BANG ON! on 14:50 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
Possession is really not worth all that much when 90% of it is triangles involving your two CBs and your goalie though. We aren't really creating chances for all the possession we have and that's a big worry. I don't honestly see that we are making progress, in fact as the season is moving forward our performances seem to be going backwards. And that's very much in keeping with Lambert's last two seasons here too where early promise gives way to turgid football and poor results. |
IN fact in the games we lost against Lincoln and Sunderland our performance was not that bad imo, much better than last Saturday for sure. We were unlucky not to get something out of those games. Unfortunately it looks like we will have a rather cobbled together team for tomorrow night , and it is difficult to see who of the fit and available players can fit into the system that the manager insists on playing. | | | |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 15:06 - Nov 23 with 2335 views | Mullet |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 14:59 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
There's something of a parallel between those supporting Lambert and those supporting the Tories and Brexit. Those who look at what's actually happening and point out that it's not great aren't met with counter arguments, we're just accused of being negative and told to get behind the team. [Post edited 23 Nov 2020 15:16]
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Maybe. I only go off what I see, but it seems odd dipping in and out to see there's a very clear trend of attacking the messengers as much as the message. See also, making up criticisms and negativity to frame their own ideas.
Wonder how many were doing the same with the Ireland team recently? | |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 15:07 - Nov 23 with 2331 views | clive_baker |
Cause we're sh1t, probably. In their defence, they've had maybe 1 opportunity to beat a team in the top 8, they've not played most of them. We've demonstrated for ages we're not capable, despite many attempts. It's a bit different.
But you're right, anyone can beat anyone at this level and we certainly shouldn't fear any side. They should be fearing coming to play us. Mad how expectations can drop so quickly. |  |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 15:12 - Nov 23 with 2317 views | Mullet |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 15:07 - Nov 23 by clive_baker |
Cause we're sh1t, probably. In their defence, they've had maybe 1 opportunity to beat a team in the top 8, they've not played most of them. We've demonstrated for ages we're not capable, despite many attempts. It's a bit different.
But you're right, anyone can beat anyone at this level and we certainly shouldn't fear any side. They should be fearing coming to play us. Mad how expectations can drop so quickly. |
The problem then becomes that expecting us to beat teams, especially when we have got off so lightly during COVID compared to many others (how many have we played with 6-10 new signings? etc) it makes this piety all the odder and delusional doesn't it?
This is the worst football I've ever seen ITFC play, it's the worst pretty much 99% of our fanbase will of seen. Maybe that's why they refuse to countenance it? All we really have is faith in our youngsters and we are the oldest team in this sh1thole division too aren't we? | |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 15:22 - Nov 23 with 2288 views | TieDyedIn95 |
Getting behind a team on a forum will not change the result. People are right to be cautious and criticize what's going on at the club.
The "disruption" as you call it was one of the worse games Town have played in living memory after we threw two cup ties to "rest" our first team so that the team would be fit and ready for the league. They were not. We got lucky against one of the worse teams in the bottom two tiers in English football right now. Hull are significantly better than that. The support is right to call out how bad things are at the club, we cannot bury our heads in the sand, Ipswich shouldn't be in this division and we should have, given the size of the club and the budget compared to our rivals, at least 15 players in the squad able to win this league easily. We do not. That is what we should be upset about. |  |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull ? on 02:55 - Nov 24 with 2150 views | eddiespearitt03 |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 13:13 - Nov 23 by Basuco |
Because we are only 3rd and some posters seem to think that by constantly moaning other posters who are not anti Paul Lambert will suddenly become anti Lambert. In reality posters who constantly snipe at Paul Lambert come across as tedious bores. Constructive criticism is fine, but it has now gone way past that on here recently. It's now time to accept where we are as a club and get behind the team. Just a thought. |
The negativity runs far deeper than that.
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 09:38 - Nov 24 with 2018 views | SouperJim |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 13:13 - Nov 23 by Basuco |
Because we are only 3rd and some posters seem to think that by constantly moaning other posters who are not anti Paul Lambert will suddenly become anti Lambert. In reality posters who constantly snipe at Paul Lambert come across as tedious bores. Constructive criticism is fine, but it has now gone way past that on here recently. It's now time to accept where we are as a club and get behind the team. Just a thought. |
The day I accept where we currently are as a club is the day I stop being an Ipswich fan. |  |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 09:49 - Nov 24 with 1990 views | Barneycurley |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 14:59 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
There's something of a parallel between those supporting Lambert and those supporting the Tories and Brexit. Those who look at what's actually happening and point out that it's not great aren't met with counter arguments, we're just accused of being negative and told to get behind the team. [Post edited 23 Nov 2020 15:16]
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Hahahahaha
That's the funniest most spurious parallel I've seen since Paz suggested that the twin towers were demolished by a very grumpy wolf. |  |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 09:52 - Nov 24 with 1981 views | Herbivore |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 09:49 - Nov 24 by Barneycurley |
Hahahahaha
That's the funniest most spurious parallel I've seen since Paz suggested that the twin towers were demolished by a very grumpy wolf. |
It's entirely valid, but I'm not surprised you don't get it. | |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 09:56 - Nov 24 with 1969 views | Barneycurley |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 09:52 - Nov 24 by Herbivore |
It's entirely valid, but I'm not surprised you don't get it. |
Oh don't be like that. I can't help i am so thick | |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 10:20 - Nov 24 with 1936 views | Herbivore |
| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 09:56 - Nov 24 by Barneycurley |
Oh don't be like that. I can't help i am so thick |
I'm not laying any blame, friend. | |
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| Why all the negativity leading into Hull? on 11:31 - Nov 24 with 1853 views | Keaneish |
A combination of cynicism and experience I guess.
For me, it’s simple. Pick the right side to play at tempo from the off, we’ll win. Pick the wrong side, play ponderous football and squander the lead, we’ll lose. [Post edited 24 Nov 2020 12:30]
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