| The chosen 12... 16:58 - Feb 26 with 8469 views | SitfcB |
1 John Wark
2 Matt Holland
3 Mick Mills
4 Terry Butcher
5 Paul Mariner
6 Kevin Beattie
7 George Burley
8 Ray Crawford
9 Arnold Muhren
10 Frans Thijssen
11 Marcus Stewart
12 Jim Magilton |  |
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| The chosen 12... on 18:46 - Feb 26 with 2258 views | Herbivore |
| The chosen 12... on 18:44 - Feb 26 by Lord_Lucan |
The end |
Should've been the end for him circa 2001. |  |
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| The chosen 12... on 18:47 - Feb 26 with 2258 views | bluelagos |
Were is the stick? Where was my vote? |  |
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| The chosen 12... on 18:47 - Feb 26 with 2258 views | Bluefish |
| The chosen 12... on 18:44 - Feb 26 by Lord_Lucan |
The end |
Do you think he has the wrong player? Maybe he is thinking of Bullard? |  |
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| The chosen 12... on 18:53 - Feb 26 with 2243 views | Guthrum |
We need more pillars! |  |
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| The chosen 12... on 18:55 - Feb 26 with 2243 views | Wickwar_Blue |
The absence of one Maurice Treacle may be the final straw for me and ITFC! |  | | |
| The chosen 12... on 18:55 - Feb 26 with 2241 views | Lord_Lucan |
| The chosen 12... on 18:47 - Feb 26 by Bluefish |
Do you think he has the wrong player? Maybe he is thinking of Bullard? |
I swear to God I have no idea. |  |
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| The chosen 12... on 19:35 - Feb 26 with 2230 views | Trequartista |
Eric Gates ???? |  |
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| The chosen 12... on 19:42 - Feb 26 with 2223 views | Dyland |
| The chosen 12... on 17:06 - Feb 26 by Herbivore |
Disagree. |
A timely reminder that whilst you and me probably see eye to eye on many things, you know piss all about footy ;) |  |
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| The chosen 12... on 19:47 - Feb 26 with 2212 views | Herbivore |
| The chosen 12... on 19:42 - Feb 26 by Dyland |
A timely reminder that whilst you and me probably see eye to eye on many things, you know piss all about footy ;) |
How dare you. | |
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| The chosen 12... on 20:05 - Feb 26 with 2211 views | Dyland |
| The chosen 12... on 19:47 - Feb 26 by Herbivore |
How dare you. |
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| The chosen 12... on 20:05 - Feb 26 with 2209 views | bazgammon |
The entire 62 league winning team should have been recognised. That will NEVER be bettered. Holland a very overrated player like Skuse and Chambers are today, can't believe he's number 2. Again, I suppose no fans under 40 really saw a decent Town team. Trevor Whymark deserved a higher place too in my opinion. |  |
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| The chosen 12... on 20:11 - Feb 26 with 2205 views | itfcjoe |
The Beat has a statue so put whoever is 13th on the list on one of the pillars in my opinion |  |
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| The chosen 12... on 20:25 - Feb 26 with 2195 views | Bluefish |
| The chosen 12... on 20:11 - Feb 26 by itfcjoe |
The Beat has a statue so put whoever is 13th on the list on one of the pillars in my opinion |
Completely agree. It should be Mick | |
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| The chosen 12... on 20:44 - Feb 26 with 2182 views | Yallop |
Wark, Beattie, Butcher, Taricco, Herman my top five. |  | | |
| The chosen 12... on 20:56 - Feb 26 with 2175 views | Ftnfwest |
| The chosen 12... on 18:21 - Feb 26 by Herbivore |
Ironically, I've seen us play worse than that against Rotherham alone three times under Lambert. |
I’ve seen two of those but that was singularly the worst game of football I’ve ever seen. We were admittedly bad in the others but at least Rotherham actually played well enough to deserve to win in those. The one I’m thinking of they played like a pubs reserve team and we were worse. |  | | |
| The chosen 12... on 21:29 - Feb 26 with 2159 views | north_stand77 |
This was my list, bar one player!
Chose Paul Cooper over Arnold Muhren.
Didn't Cooper save 5 penalties in a row? |  | | |
| The chosen 12... on 00:31 - Feb 27 with 2121 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| The chosen 12... on 17:53 - Feb 26 by Herbivore |
Think you're over-egging it. He was far from excellent for a good chunk of those 7 seasons and as a manager he was pretty mediocre in the round. He looks better in hindsight given some of the dross we've had since but I'd not have him near my twelve. |
WTF |  |
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| The chosen 12... on 01:05 - Feb 27 with 2108 views | IPS_wich |
For me each of the 12 should have two characteristics:
1) A lot of appearances
2) Contributing to a special moment in our history
For this reason I think we have 11 of the 12 pretty spot on:
John Wark - 678 appearances, 190 goals, FA Cup and UEFA
Matt Holland - 314 appearances, Play off winning captain, Captain of Fifth in Prem
Mick Mills - 741 appearances, FA Cup, UEFA, England captain whilst a Town player
Terry Butcher - 350 appearances, UEFA Cup, England captain whilst a Town player
Paul Mariner - 339 appearances, 135 goals, FA Cup, UEFA Cup, England caps whilst at Town
Kevin Beattie - 307 appearances (should have been many more), FA Cup, England caps whilst at Town, Arguably our finest ever player
George Burley - 500 appearances, FA Cup, successful manager, many Scottish caps whilst at Town
Ray Crawford - 354 appearances, 218 goals, League winner
Arnold Muhren - 214 appearances, UEFA Cup
Frans Thijssen - 170 appearances, UEFA Cup
Jim Magilton - 322 appearances, Play-off winner, Play-off semi legend, Managed the club
That leaves an odd one out: Marcus Stewart, love love him, but he only played 75 times. That's the same number of appearances as Lewis Price and only a couple more than Wickham. I'd also add Taricco to the list because he wasn't part of a team that achieved anything (see Chambers also).
The 1992 Second Division winning team are not that well represented and you could easily argue their achievement was better than the 99/00 play-off winners - although they didn't follow up promotion with a Top 5 finish. Players like Yallop, Milton, Stockwell and Forrest all racked up 300+ games and were part of that team.
When it comes down to it I can't argue with 11 of the 12, but think that Stockwell, Cooper, Elsworthy, Osman, Gates and Leadbetter all have a stronger claim that Stewart. But the biggest omission surely has to be Ted Phillips. 295 appearances, 181 goals, ten years service and part of the joint most unlikely top division winners (along with Leicester). | | | |
| The chosen 12... on 01:23 - Feb 27 with 2099 views | jimsymBLUE |
Mickey Stockwell should be in there, not sure any town player in history covered more of the hallowed turf than him. A bollard would probably suffice though. |  |
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| The chosen 12... on 09:46 - Feb 27 with 2056 views | r2d2 |
Should have been room for Brazil and maybe Mick Stockwell. |  | | |
| The chosen 12... on 09:52 - Feb 27 with 2051 views | r2d2 |
| The chosen 12... on 01:05 - Feb 27 by IPS_wich |
For me each of the 12 should have two characteristics:
1) A lot of appearances
2) Contributing to a special moment in our history
For this reason I think we have 11 of the 12 pretty spot on:
John Wark - 678 appearances, 190 goals, FA Cup and UEFA
Matt Holland - 314 appearances, Play off winning captain, Captain of Fifth in Prem
Mick Mills - 741 appearances, FA Cup, UEFA, England captain whilst a Town player
Terry Butcher - 350 appearances, UEFA Cup, England captain whilst a Town player
Paul Mariner - 339 appearances, 135 goals, FA Cup, UEFA Cup, England caps whilst at Town
Kevin Beattie - 307 appearances (should have been many more), FA Cup, England caps whilst at Town, Arguably our finest ever player
George Burley - 500 appearances, FA Cup, successful manager, many Scottish caps whilst at Town
Ray Crawford - 354 appearances, 218 goals, League winner
Arnold Muhren - 214 appearances, UEFA Cup
Frans Thijssen - 170 appearances, UEFA Cup
Jim Magilton - 322 appearances, Play-off winner, Play-off semi legend, Managed the club
That leaves an odd one out: Marcus Stewart, love love him, but he only played 75 times. That's the same number of appearances as Lewis Price and only a couple more than Wickham. I'd also add Taricco to the list because he wasn't part of a team that achieved anything (see Chambers also).
The 1992 Second Division winning team are not that well represented and you could easily argue their achievement was better than the 99/00 play-off winners - although they didn't follow up promotion with a Top 5 finish. Players like Yallop, Milton, Stockwell and Forrest all racked up 300+ games and were part of that team.
When it comes down to it I can't argue with 11 of the 12, but think that Stockwell, Cooper, Elsworthy, Osman, Gates and Leadbetter all have a stronger claim that Stewart. But the biggest omission surely has to be Ted Phillips. 295 appearances, 181 goals, ten years service and part of the joint most unlikely top division winners (along with Leicester). |
Maybe a panel should have been put in place to decide on this instead of fans? Ex players, journalists, TWTD, etc. Beattie should have been omitted as he is already going to be recognised. Players like Stocky, Brazil, Ted really ought to be in there somewhere. I suppose we should really be proud that we have so many great players, that picking 12 is near on impossible. | | | |
| The chosen 12... on 09:53 - Feb 27 with 2046 views | Herbivore |
| The chosen 12... on 01:23 - Feb 27 by jimsymBLUE |
Mickey Stockwell should be in there, not sure any town player in history covered more of the hallowed turf than him. A bollard would probably suffice though. |
Stockwell over Magilton definitely. | |
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| The chosen 12... on 13:30 - Feb 27 with 2006 views | braveblue |
Chambers was 15th. Scary!! | | | |
| The chosen 12... on 13:32 - Feb 27 with 2001 views | GaryCooper |
Trevor Whymark for Marcus Stewart, Alan Hunter for Matt Holland, Brian Talbot for Jim Magilton although Jim is very worthy of a place. |  | | |
| The chosen 12... on 13:38 - Feb 27 with 1987 views | vapour_trail |
| The chosen 12... on 09:52 - Feb 27 by r2d2 |
Maybe a panel should have been put in place to decide on this instead of fans? Ex players, journalists, TWTD, etc. Beattie should have been omitted as he is already going to be recognised. Players like Stocky, Brazil, Ted really ought to be in there somewhere. I suppose we should really be proud that we have so many great players, that picking 12 is near on impossible. |
TWTD? Can you fcking imagine. |  |
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