| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom 16:37 - Nov 19 with 8911 views | hampstead_blue |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50474345
Capped salaries of £350k.
That's just made hundreds of firms leave the UK,.
Will the last person left please turn out the lights...... |  |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 18:30 - Nov 19 with 4107 views | jeera |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 18:13 - Nov 19 by Herbivore |
It highlights something really quite troubling: people are so much more driven by their own biases than they are by the truth that the truth has lost all meaning. The OP has totally misunderstood the policy despite it being quite clearly articulated in the article he's linked and others of a similar political persuasion have not only failed to correct him but have piled on. I'm not sure how this thread got several posts in before I corrected such a clear and obvious misunderstanding by the OP. It can only be because the misrepresentation better fitted with what they feel to be right and so it didn't matter that it wasn't true. [Post edited 19 Nov 2019 18:14]
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It's the same pattern every time and I'm sick of seeing it everywhere.
Instead of starting with a relatively open mind and trying to take on board as much available information as possible in order to at least attempt to form an informed opinion, they begin with an opinion then grasp at absolutely any old crap that might just stand up.
Priorities are completely the wrong way about and there really is no hope.
I've had it with members of my own family, friends, idiots in the pub; all quoting some sh!t they've read on Facebook that have long been discussed and dismissed elsewhere over the past 3 years.
No effort whatsoever. Just spiel and stupidity. |  |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 18:35 - Nov 19 with 4102 views | Herbivore |
I see the OP has popped back to the thread to down arrow all my posts but not to apologise for wilfully spreading misinformation. That's a shame. |  |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 18:54 - Nov 19 with 4077 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 18:35 - Nov 19 by Herbivore |
I see the OP has popped back to the thread to down arrow all my posts but not to apologise for wilfully spreading misinformation. That's a shame. |
That’s quite sad and just confirms the cult-esque nature of all this. (I think this is the first thread I’ve ever downvoted anyone incidentally- there’s no place for outright lying). |  |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 18:55 - Nov 19 with 4075 views | Dubtractor |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 17:25 - Nov 19 by Herbivore |
Why will capping public sector executives' pay at £350k a year lead to loads of private companies leaving the UK? |
He was part of the intelligence community, but can't read a short article on the beeb properly.... |  |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 19:05 - Nov 19 with 4061 views | flimflam |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 18:22 - Nov 19 by BlueBadger |
Aren't a lot of the big BBC stars essentially tied to various (private)production companies rather than the Beeb itself? |
Yes I believe so but Lineker was paid almost 2 million by the BBC last year. What he earns elsewhere for private companies then thats not an issue. |  |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 19:14 - Nov 19 with 4046 views | jaykay |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 18:35 - Nov 19 by Herbivore |
I see the OP has popped back to the thread to down arrow all my posts but not to apologise for wilfully spreading misinformation. That's a shame. |
i think he got all his info from his government and intelligence sources. or other words facebook .
i expect he will be back soon to tear your comments apart with some hard cold facts. |  |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 19:16 - Nov 19 with 4043 views | m14_blue |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 18:27 - Nov 19 by Swansea_Blue |
Agree entirely. And the worse culprits are those who bang on about democracy, but they’re the ones actually killing democracy by willingly spreading falsehoods that dictate other people’s voting patterns. You can’t have a functioning democracy based on propaganda. The inevitable conclusion of Bannon/Trump style post-truth politics.
I’m surprised how quickly things have changed under Johnson, but I suppose I shouldn’t be. I was hoping people were less gullible, had some common sense and more of a critical eye. That’ll learn me! |
The Sun ran a story last month, from their Chief Political Correspondent, with the headline "Brussels: UK’s 600,000 benefit tourists is no problem"
They later issued the following retraction, buried deep in the small print. “There is no evidence of 600,000 ‘benefit tourists’ in the UK. Neither has the European Commission said this would be no problem.”
How many millions of impressionable idiots had their prejudices reinforced by that original article?
The media in this country are a disgrace, almost without exception. |  | | |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 11:16 - Nov 20 with 3973 views | britbiker |
Phew, Len Mccluskey will be pleased as he still has plenty of head room for his salary and pension contributions. Assuming of course that a Union falls under the banner of 'public sector". |  | | |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 11:44 - Nov 20 with 3955 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 19:16 - Nov 19 by m14_blue |
The Sun ran a story last month, from their Chief Political Correspondent, with the headline "Brussels: UK’s 600,000 benefit tourists is no problem"
They later issued the following retraction, buried deep in the small print. “There is no evidence of 600,000 ‘benefit tourists’ in the UK. Neither has the European Commission said this would be no problem.”
How many millions of impressionable idiots had their prejudices reinforced by that original article?
The media in this country are a disgrace, almost without exception. |
Corrections should have the same prominence as the original wrong article, that’d make them think twice (maybe). | |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:31 - Nov 20 with 3933 views | hampstead_blue |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 17:40 - Nov 19 by Darth_Koont |
It's public sector chief executives according to this.
Although I expect the Highways Agency would like to go off and do some tarmacing in Italy for a change of pace and some nice scenery. |
If you go deeper into the article JM plans to punish firms who pay their CEO's 'excessively'.
Who on earth is he to decide that?
I don't agree with the worst cases of largesse, but I am hate the idea of this Socialist control freak at the tiller. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:33 - Nov 20 with 3930 views | Herbivore |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:31 - Nov 20 by hampstead_blue |
If you go deeper into the article JM plans to punish firms who pay their CEO's 'excessively'.
Who on earth is he to decide that?
I don't agree with the worst cases of largesse, but I am hate the idea of this Socialist control freak at the tiller. |
Still no apology or retraction for your wilful misrepresentation. I see you've chosen to double down instead. | |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:37 - Nov 20 with 3925 views | Sarge |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 16:42 - Nov 19 by GaryCooper |
Totally irrelevant, Labour are as far from power as they ever have been, five more years of chaotic tories and universal credit pushing people in to desperate situations, yep JC supporters take a bow. |
The lack of a strong Labour Party doesn’t mean people have to vote for the Tories you know. That’s like saying oh boy I really didn’t want to put this firework in my anus but there was nobody there to stop me so.... | | | |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:40 - Nov 20 with 3916 views | hampstead_blue |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 18:13 - Nov 19 by Herbivore |
It highlights something really quite troubling: people are so much more driven by their own biases than they are by the truth that the truth has lost all meaning. The OP has totally misunderstood the policy despite it being quite clearly articulated in the article he's linked and others of a similar political persuasion have not only failed to correct him but have piled on. I'm not sure how this thread got several posts in before I corrected such a clear and obvious misunderstanding by the OP. It can only be because the misrepresentation better fitted with what they feel to be right and so it didn't matter that it wasn't true. [Post edited 19 Nov 2019 18:14]
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I do understand the article.
The interview on Today and the piece I've linked show that Labour are determined to punish success.
What is wrong with being super successful? We should encourage that. We want wealth creators, people like Peter Jones who enthuse and mentor the next generation of entrepreneurs and business leaders.
JM and JC are old fashioned socialists. There is so much evidence both historical and current which shows their model does not work.
I've just finished a rather lengthy audiobook by the Great Courses - Capitalism v Socialism. I'd recommend anyone who support socialism listens to it. It's academic so not written by a journo or bias.
It's clear that Socialism doesn't work.
A few have stated that my views ignore fact and are just 'Dunkirk Spirit'.....thanks for the latter, I am determined old sock.
I don't ignore fact, I take it in. I've given a text where bucket loads of fact shows that JC and JM are wrong.
I'm not all for the big hungry corporate best, not at all. I'm a social entrepreneur and I also work for a charity!
I'm also not rabid or unreasonable, just want to make a clear stand for common sense and just how dangerous JC is.
Hammas and the IRA are two red flags!
Peace, love, and strong tea. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:42 - Nov 20 with 3911 views | SomethingBlue |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:40 - Nov 20 by hampstead_blue |
I do understand the article.
The interview on Today and the piece I've linked show that Labour are determined to punish success.
What is wrong with being super successful? We should encourage that. We want wealth creators, people like Peter Jones who enthuse and mentor the next generation of entrepreneurs and business leaders.
JM and JC are old fashioned socialists. There is so much evidence both historical and current which shows their model does not work.
I've just finished a rather lengthy audiobook by the Great Courses - Capitalism v Socialism. I'd recommend anyone who support socialism listens to it. It's academic so not written by a journo or bias.
It's clear that Socialism doesn't work.
A few have stated that my views ignore fact and are just 'Dunkirk Spirit'.....thanks for the latter, I am determined old sock.
I don't ignore fact, I take it in. I've given a text where bucket loads of fact shows that JC and JM are wrong.
I'm not all for the big hungry corporate best, not at all. I'm a social entrepreneur and I also work for a charity!
I'm also not rabid or unreasonable, just want to make a clear stand for common sense and just how dangerous JC is.
Hammas and the IRA are two red flags!
Peace, love, and strong tea. |
"Dangerous" — come on, read some better papers. | |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:43 - Nov 20 with 3910 views | Herbivore |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:40 - Nov 20 by hampstead_blue |
I do understand the article.
The interview on Today and the piece I've linked show that Labour are determined to punish success.
What is wrong with being super successful? We should encourage that. We want wealth creators, people like Peter Jones who enthuse and mentor the next generation of entrepreneurs and business leaders.
JM and JC are old fashioned socialists. There is so much evidence both historical and current which shows their model does not work.
I've just finished a rather lengthy audiobook by the Great Courses - Capitalism v Socialism. I'd recommend anyone who support socialism listens to it. It's academic so not written by a journo or bias.
It's clear that Socialism doesn't work.
A few have stated that my views ignore fact and are just 'Dunkirk Spirit'.....thanks for the latter, I am determined old sock.
I don't ignore fact, I take it in. I've given a text where bucket loads of fact shows that JC and JM are wrong.
I'm not all for the big hungry corporate best, not at all. I'm a social entrepreneur and I also work for a charity!
I'm also not rabid or unreasonable, just want to make a clear stand for common sense and just how dangerous JC is.
Hammas and the IRA are two red flags!
Peace, love, and strong tea. |
I see you're now ranting incoherently rather than holding your hands up to spreading false information. The term 'wealth creator' is a load of nonsense as well by the way, they aren't creating wealth, they are hoarding it at the expense of others. You not only buy propaganda it seems you also spread it. Shame on you. [Post edited 20 Nov 2019 12:51]
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:49 - Nov 20 with 3902 views | brazil1982 |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 18:19 - Nov 19 by flimflam |
If this is just for the public sector which we essentially pay for via taxes then its actually the first sensible proposal to come out of the Labour camp.
I presume this would catch Gary Lineker and all the fat salaries paid for at the BBC also? |
I struggle to see the justification for a salary >£300k to run a public organisation.
Alan Shearer earns £400k for being a pundit. I find that staggering. | | | |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:51 - Nov 20 with 3898 views | CoachRob |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:40 - Nov 20 by hampstead_blue |
I do understand the article.
The interview on Today and the piece I've linked show that Labour are determined to punish success.
What is wrong with being super successful? We should encourage that. We want wealth creators, people like Peter Jones who enthuse and mentor the next generation of entrepreneurs and business leaders.
JM and JC are old fashioned socialists. There is so much evidence both historical and current which shows their model does not work.
I've just finished a rather lengthy audiobook by the Great Courses - Capitalism v Socialism. I'd recommend anyone who support socialism listens to it. It's academic so not written by a journo or bias.
It's clear that Socialism doesn't work.
A few have stated that my views ignore fact and are just 'Dunkirk Spirit'.....thanks for the latter, I am determined old sock.
I don't ignore fact, I take it in. I've given a text where bucket loads of fact shows that JC and JM are wrong.
I'm not all for the big hungry corporate best, not at all. I'm a social entrepreneur and I also work for a charity!
I'm also not rabid or unreasonable, just want to make a clear stand for common sense and just how dangerous JC is.
Hammas and the IRA are two red flags!
Peace, love, and strong tea. |
"I've just finished a rather lengthy audiobook by the Great Courses - Capitalism v Socialism. I'd recommend anyone who support socialism listens to it. It's academic so not written by a journo or bias."
This shows you believe an economics professor to speak factually, economics is not a science and as someone who claims to have a masters from a business school you should know the biases that exist. |  | | |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:56 - Nov 20 with 3889 views | Herbivore |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:49 - Nov 20 by brazil1982 |
I struggle to see the justification for a salary >£300k to run a public organisation.
Alan Shearer earns £400k for being a pundit. I find that staggering. |
Many public organisations have budgets in the billions and employ thousands of people. That justifies a fairly hefty salary. I do find it odd that people who think that private sector directors should be able to earn whatever they like with no restriction but public sector chiefs should earn significantly less for running comparable sized organisations and usually organisations that are much more important in most people's everyday lives. How do you square that circle? | |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:59 - Nov 20 with 3880 views | mrshallisfit |
Just wait until GB is fully deregulated and tied to a vastly inferior trade deal with the US. That will be a a very quick race to the bottom - for the workforce and consumers of the UK. | | | |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 13:01 - Nov 20 with 3876 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 16:42 - Nov 19 by GaryCooper |
Totally irrelevant, Labour are as far from power as they ever have been, five more years of chaotic tories and universal credit pushing people in to desperate situations, yep JC supporters take a bow. |
Have you actually been on Universal Credit? Genuine question. |  |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 13:01 - Nov 20 with 3877 views | Herbivore |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:59 - Nov 20 by mrshallisfit |
Just wait until GB is fully deregulated and tied to a vastly inferior trade deal with the US. That will be a a very quick race to the bottom - for the workforce and consumers of the UK. |
Yeah but the wealth creators will be even wealthier, and ultimately that's what really matters apparently. | |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 13:03 - Nov 20 with 3874 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 17:16 - Nov 19 by hampstead_blue |
JM 'nobody deserves to be a billionaire!'......
Really?
If I am super successful and I can sell my business for buckets of cash then I do. So do you, and you, and you, and you..... |
I'm alright Jack. | |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 13:08 - Nov 20 with 3863 views | noggin |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 13:03 - Nov 20 by BrixtonBlue |
I'm alright Jack. |
And if I can get away with avoiding and/or evading tax, I shall. Feck the peasants. |  |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 13:11 - Nov 20 with 3853 views | footers |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:31 - Nov 20 by hampstead_blue |
If you go deeper into the article JM plans to punish firms who pay their CEO's 'excessively'.
Who on earth is he to decide that?
I don't agree with the worst cases of largesse, but I am hate the idea of this Socialist control freak at the tiller. |
Many CEOs who take home such massive pay packets and bonuses are actually doing quite badly at running their own businesses, which is bad for the market. Martin Sorrell was pocketing ever-larger paycheques at a time when WPP were performing at their worst, for example. John Varley is another. Surely it's better that the money goes back into the business and true 'wealth-generation' than his pockets. What use is it there? |  |
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| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 13:14 - Nov 20 with 3834 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Ready, steady, go.....race to the bottom on 12:40 - Nov 20 by hampstead_blue |
I do understand the article.
The interview on Today and the piece I've linked show that Labour are determined to punish success.
What is wrong with being super successful? We should encourage that. We want wealth creators, people like Peter Jones who enthuse and mentor the next generation of entrepreneurs and business leaders.
JM and JC are old fashioned socialists. There is so much evidence both historical and current which shows their model does not work.
I've just finished a rather lengthy audiobook by the Great Courses - Capitalism v Socialism. I'd recommend anyone who support socialism listens to it. It's academic so not written by a journo or bias.
It's clear that Socialism doesn't work.
A few have stated that my views ignore fact and are just 'Dunkirk Spirit'.....thanks for the latter, I am determined old sock.
I don't ignore fact, I take it in. I've given a text where bucket loads of fact shows that JC and JM are wrong.
I'm not all for the big hungry corporate best, not at all. I'm a social entrepreneur and I also work for a charity!
I'm also not rabid or unreasonable, just want to make a clear stand for common sense and just how dangerous JC is.
Hammas and the IRA are two red flags!
Peace, love, and strong tea. |
Have you read the thread? You've been utterly ripped a new one. Try reading and taking onboard what people are saying to you. | |
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