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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:30 - Oct 21 by JakeITFC
The song is racist, there is no room for debate here.
I have posted at great length about this on here so I won’t again, but the dehumanisation and hyper-sexualisation of black men is an abuse borne in the times of slavery and this song is a continuation of that.
It is entirely possible that the people singing the song think didn’t/don’t think there is a problem with it, which is why it is important that they learn why it is.
What he said^
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:56 - Oct 21 by jeera
You seem to keep relying on the Toto and LC to justify your position.
They may be wrong for whatever reasons too.
It plays to racial stereotypes. It's not complicated.
Surely anything moving away from that nonsense is a good thing and anything that encourages it isn't.
Racism is bad. Very simple.
The pathetic song is not racist.
There are calls on here for the morons who sung it to be punished, I’m simply asking how the club captain should be punished as surely he is as bad as they are?
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 18:24 - Oct 21 with 2738 views
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 18:10 - Oct 21 by yesjohn99
Racism is bad. Very simple.
The pathetic song is not racist.
There are calls on here for the morons who sung it to be punished, I’m simply asking how the club captain should be punished as surely he is as bad as they are?
Of course its racist. Not maliciously but it plays on silly steretypes which is something a cuvilised society tries to avoid.
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 18:10 - Oct 21 by yesjohn99
Racism is bad. Very simple.
The pathetic song is not racist.
There are calls on here for the morons who sung it to be punished, I’m simply asking how the club captain should be punished as surely he is as bad as they are?
Just read Jake's post. It says all that needs saying.
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:30 - Oct 21 by JakeITFC
The song is racist, there is no room for debate here.
I have posted at great length about this on here so I won’t again, but the dehumanisation and hyper-sexualisation of black men is an abuse borne in the times of slavery and this song is a continuation of that.
It is entirely possible that the people singing the song think didn’t/don’t think there is a problem with it, which is why it is important that they learn why it is.
Agree Those YouTube virgins who started it must see from this it is not acceptable and will now stop. What I don’t get, is the fascination they must have for men’s genitalia. Is it envy? Just stop singing it and we’ll all move on.
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I keep hearing that..... on 19:07 - Oct 21 with 2676 views
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 18:10 - Oct 21 by yesjohn99
Racism is bad. Very simple.
The pathetic song is not racist.
There are calls on here for the morons who sung it to be punished, I’m simply asking how the club captain should be punished as surely he is as bad as they are?
"I’m simply asking how the club captain should be punished as surely he is as bad as they are?"
But you're not. You're too busy insisting it isn't racist. It has racial connotations and that's not up for debate.
Should they be punished? As others have said too the people singing it are possibly a bit young/bit daft to have given it too much thought and maybe just need it pointing out to them why it's unacceptable. That's not gonna happen if people keep defending it or continue to insist it isn't racist. You're not helping.
Chambers isn;t employed for his brains clearly. Maybe he could learn a thing or too. Feck me, has the campaigning not reached his inner ears? He seems a decent chap and I'm sure if someone has a word it might sink in.
As for Toto himself; it was an over-used excuse throughout the 70s and 80s that *insert dark-skinned person here* didn't seem to mind the crap they received - because it was easier just to go along with it than make a fuss.
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 19:23 - Oct 21 by jeera
"I’m simply asking how the club captain should be punished as surely he is as bad as they are?"
But you're not. You're too busy insisting it isn't racist. It has racial connotations and that's not up for debate.
Should they be punished? As others have said too the people singing it are possibly a bit young/bit daft to have given it too much thought and maybe just need it pointing out to them why it's unacceptable. That's not gonna happen if people keep defending it or continue to insist it isn't racist. You're not helping.
Chambers isn;t employed for his brains clearly. Maybe he could learn a thing or too. Feck me, has the campaigning not reached his inner ears? He seems a decent chap and I'm sure if someone has a word it might sink in.
As for Toto himself; it was an over-used excuse throughout the 70s and 80s that *insert dark-skinned person here* didn't seem to mind the crap they received - because it was easier just to go along with it than make a fuss.
No matter what spin you put on it, the song isn’t racist.
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 19:36 - Oct 21 with 2623 views
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:30 - Oct 21 by JakeITFC
The song is racist, there is no room for debate here.
I have posted at great length about this on here so I won’t again, but the dehumanisation and hyper-sexualisation of black men is an abuse borne in the times of slavery and this song is a continuation of that.
It is entirely possible that the people singing the song think didn’t/don’t think there is a problem with it, which is why it is important that they learn why it is.
Dear oh dear. Comparing slavery to a juvenile song about a mans todger is mountains out of non existent molehills to the extreme.
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 19:36 - Oct 21 with 2616 views
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 19:31 - Oct 21 by yesjohn99
No matter what spin you put on it, the song isn’t racist.
racism /ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
"the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."
Now please do explain why singing about a black man having a large penis isn't racist. Take your time.
footers KC - Prosecution Barrister - Friend to all
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 19:37 - Oct 21 by footers
racism /ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
"the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."
Now please do explain why singing about a black man having a large penis isn't racist. Take your time.
The size of a mans party piece doesn’t make him inferior or superior to anyone.
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 19:49 - Oct 21 with 2583 views
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 18:10 - Oct 21 by yesjohn99
Racism is bad. Very simple.
The pathetic song is not racist.
There are calls on here for the morons who sung it to be punished, I’m simply asking how the club captain should be punished as surely he is as bad as they are?
As I have said on other post, I find it hard to believe our captain has a sticker on his phone endorsing the song but people on here are insisting they have seen it. If this is actually the case I shall raise it when i speak to the Club Secretary tomorrow following todays exchange of emails with the club.
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:30 - Oct 21 by JakeITFC
The song is racist, there is no room for debate here.
I have posted at great length about this on here so I won’t again, but the dehumanisation and hyper-sexualisation of black men is an abuse borne in the times of slavery and this song is a continuation of that.
It is entirely possible that the people singing the song think didn’t/don’t think there is a problem with it, which is why it is important that they learn why it is.
Like others I have not heard it. Please advise the words so that I can form an opinion. Seems strange that some think it is obviously racist and some don’t . If in doubt then don’t sing it I would say. But I would like to know what it is.
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 20:05 - Oct 21 with 2543 views
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 20:02 - Oct 21 by braveblue
Like others I have not heard it. Please advise the words so that I can form an opinion. Seems strange that some think it is obviously racist and some don’t . If in doubt then don’t sing it I would say. But I would like to know what it is.
I do not know the song either but get an impression what it is about from this and other threads.
Assume it is not sung about any white men so that alone makes it racist.
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 20:06 - Oct 21 with 2539 views
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