| Well that didn’t go to plan 21:48 - Mar 27 with 7120 views | Samuelowen88 |
None of the options were supported.... so yup, MP’s taking back control is going well |  |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:41 - Mar 27 with 949 views | XYZ |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:14 - Mar 27 by BanksterDebtSlave |
M. Confirmatory public vote — DEFEATED 268 to 295
Drawn up by the Labour MPs Peter Kyle and Phil Wilson and tabled by the former foreign secretary Dame Margaret Beckett with the backing of scores of MPs across the house, this motion would require a public vote to confirm any Brexit deal passed by parliament before its ratification |
You don't really get what today in parliament was about do you? |  | | |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:42 - Mar 27 with 938 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:41 - Mar 27 by XYZ |
You don't really get what today in parliament was about do you? |
About this...
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:45 - Mar 27 with 926 views | footers |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:42 - Mar 27 by ElderGrizzly |
About this...
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Even if it was passed TM could have ignored it anyway.
Streeting perhaps forgets that many, many Labour seats voted out- we are member-led but our members have different ideas. |  |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:51 - Mar 27 with 905 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:27 - Mar 27 by J2BLUE |
563 voted. I believe 649 can vote.
That leaves 86. 86 is a bigger number than 27. You're also assuming that more won't agree in future when it becomes clear parliament will never solve this issue. |
My grandad is 92,he voted leave.....92 is a bigger number than 86....
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:52 - Mar 27 with 900 views | J2BLUE |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:51 - Mar 27 by BanksterDebtSlave |
My grandad is 92,he voted leave.....92 is a bigger number than 86....
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Think it's safe to say i've won this one if that's all you can respond with.
Bless. |  |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:53 - Mar 27 with 895 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:45 - Mar 27 by footers |
Even if it was passed TM could have ignored it anyway.
Streeting perhaps forgets that many, many Labour seats voted out- we are member-led but our members have different ideas. |
And many Tories have no bloody idea (sound on for this)
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:53 - Mar 27 with 894 views | SpruceMoose |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:51 - Mar 27 by BanksterDebtSlave |
My grandad is 92,he voted leave.....92 is a bigger number than 86....
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Not to be harsh, but he'll be lucky to see his vote have any impact. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:54 - Mar 27 with 893 views | XYZ |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:42 - Mar 27 by ElderGrizzly |
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I disagree. There shouldn't have been any whipping. The practice of whipping is now contempt of parliament as much as Dom Cummings.
Both main parties have deliberately sabotaged an admirable effort from "the sensible few" to find a workable consensus on a way forward. I can understand the gov.t whipping against the vote to have the votes - they knew they'd lose but probably had to whip for precedent's sake. After that passed it should have been a free-for-all.
No-one with any political sense thought any of these motions would get a majority today. It was about identifying ideas that attracted the most support.
1. Ken Clarke's permanent Customs Union.
2. Second referendum.
Both got more votes than May's deal's best effort so far.
As J2 mentioned - I think May's deal -v- Remain second referendum would get a majority. | | | |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:02 - Mar 27 with 848 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:52 - Mar 27 by J2BLUE |
Think it's safe to say i've won this one if that's all you can respond with.
Bless. |
I think the logic applies equally to both numerical assumptions......ie there is none! | |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:03 - Mar 27 with 841 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:53 - Mar 27 by SpruceMoose |
Not to be harsh, but he'll be lucky to see his vote have any impact. |
To be fair, I made him up, they both died decades ago. | |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:05 - Mar 27 with 837 views | footers |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:53 - Mar 27 by ElderGrizzly |
And many Tories have no bloody idea (sound on for this)
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Didn't know The Thick of It was running another series? | |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:08 - Mar 27 with 816 views | J2BLUE |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:02 - Mar 27 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I think the logic applies equally to both numerical assumptions......ie there is none! |
Right because saying there's a possibility something could change based on logic is exactly the same as you having a tantrum. | |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:10 - Mar 27 with 810 views | SpruceMoose |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:08 - Mar 27 by J2BLUE |
Right because saying there's a possibility something could change based on logic is exactly the same as you having a tantrum. |
Excuse me H2, would you be open to an approach from the LeftyBumFest? We are a broad church and think you could achieve some good things under our wing. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| (No subject) on 23:10 - Mar 27 with 806 views | wkj |
Goodness me, the um bongo rhetoric broke J2 in half! |  |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:10 - Mar 27 with 806 views | SpruceMoose |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:10 - Mar 27 by SpruceMoose |
Excuse me H2, would you be open to an approach from the LeftyBumFest? We are a broad church and think you could achieve some good things under our wing. |
Balls. Getting your name wrong was my Gordon Brown bigot moment. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:12 - Mar 27 with 797 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 22:54 - Mar 27 by XYZ |
I disagree. There shouldn't have been any whipping. The practice of whipping is now contempt of parliament as much as Dom Cummings.
Both main parties have deliberately sabotaged an admirable effort from "the sensible few" to find a workable consensus on a way forward. I can understand the gov.t whipping against the vote to have the votes - they knew they'd lose but probably had to whip for precedent's sake. After that passed it should have been a free-for-all.
No-one with any political sense thought any of these motions would get a majority today. It was about identifying ideas that attracted the most support.
1. Ken Clarke's permanent Customs Union.
2. Second referendum.
Both got more votes than May's deal's best effort so far.
As J2 mentioned - I think May's deal -v- Remain second referendum would get a majority. |
Believe me I do listen and think beyond the point of posting gifs...and respectfully disagree with the last sentence.
On your Rojova point..positive alternatives will always be trampled upon when they come from the bottom up and threaten existing power...
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/02/rojava-united-states-withdrawal-syria-erdogan | |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:12 - Mar 27 with 793 views | gazzer1999 |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 21:54 - Mar 27 by Sarge |
Most popular option was a second referendum. How many times will May’s deal have to lose before it gets accepted? This is a weird kind of democracy. |
A weird kind of democracy whereby we ignore the first vote as it was not the answer we wanted? What if we have a second one and leave wins again? Shall we try a third time?. I guess we know what the answer would have been if we voted remain originally, get over it leave lost.
Some democracy, yes very weird, feels like the Soviet Union. |  | | |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:13 - Mar 27 with 793 views | J2BLUE |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:10 - Mar 27 by SpruceMoose |
Excuse me H2, would you be open to an approach from the LeftyBumFest? We are a broad church and think you could achieve some good things under our wing. |
I really couldn't officially join such a group. Not yet. Maybe in time, with plenty of counselling. | |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:14 - Mar 27 with 784 views | SpruceMoose |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:13 - Mar 27 by J2BLUE |
I really couldn't officially join such a group. Not yet. Maybe in time, with plenty of counselling. |
Would you consider an affiliate role? You can retain your ridiculous right wing pretentions while working along side us in cross party concesus. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:15 - Mar 27 with 782 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:08 - Mar 27 by J2BLUE |
Right because saying there's a possibility something could change based on logic is exactly the same as you having a tantrum. |
Suggesting that you are clutching at straws is not a tantrum. I am calm! | |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:16 - Mar 27 with 769 views | J2BLUE |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:14 - Mar 27 by SpruceMoose |
Would you consider an affiliate role? You can retain your ridiculous right wing pretentions while working along side us in cross party concesus. |
I'm in. | |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:17 - Mar 27 with 767 views | SpruceMoose |
| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:12 - Mar 27 by gazzer1999 |
A weird kind of democracy whereby we ignore the first vote as it was not the answer we wanted? What if we have a second one and leave wins again? Shall we try a third time?. I guess we know what the answer would have been if we voted remain originally, get over it leave lost.
Some democracy, yes very weird, feels like the Soviet Union. |
The first referendum said 'we want to leave'. It didn't answer 'how do we leave?' as we weren't even asked that. That's what a second referendum would give people the chance to look at, despite our politicians inability to articulate what that even looks like.
Is this how you want to leave?
More democracy can never be less democracy. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Well that didn’t go to plan on 23:17 - Mar 27 with 760 views | XYZ |
Rojova needs wide publicity and I was very glad to see someone had posted it up here. Capitalism likes to keep such things quiet.
And, yes, the US have sold them down the river. | | | |
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