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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 09:34 - Feb 1 with 24077 viewsHerbivore

A third of businesses actively looking at moving some of their operations overseas because of Brexit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47083214

How are we going to have all these amazing trade deals with the rest of the world when we'll have nothing left to trade?

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:37 - Feb 1 with 6267 viewslowhouseblue

nah, the media's moved on today. snow is the current catastrophe - 2cm of snow is just as big a threat to civilisation as a hard Brexit. do try to keep up.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:39 - Feb 1 with 6248 viewsitfcjoe

It's an utter joke, all this to try and keep the Tory party together

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:40 - Feb 1 with 6247 viewsLord_Lucan

Oh come on Herby.

There are many things wrong with BREXIT but don't believe all the sh1te you read.

Don't be a sucker.

Talk about bloody Groundhog Day.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:40 - Feb 1 with 6246 viewsfooters

I think you'll find that's what Global Britain is all about. Our precious companies moving overseas, taking Great British Brands all over the world :)

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:40 - Feb 1 with 6244 viewsclive_baker

There's a world of difference between 'thinking of moving operations overseas' on a survey and actually doing it, at a great expense. But yes, doesn't detract from the fact that Brexit, specifically a no deal Brexit, would be an utter, utter, sh1t show for the UK. Business and markets hate uncertainty, which is exactly what it brings. As would kicking the deadline back another 12 months. Just sack off the whole thing on the basis that's it's completely unworkable innit, deal with the fall out for a few weeks and it'll be tomorrow's chip paper. Then we can all get back on with our lives.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:41 - Feb 1 with 6238 viewsPecker

Yet more tells of sorrow. I am sure that in a few years we will all realise that not a lot has changed and that that has maybe has changed for the better. Lets just wait and see shall we.
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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:42 - Feb 1 with 6234 viewsHerbivore

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:39 - Feb 1 by itfcjoe

It's an utter joke, all this to try and keep the Tory party together


Yep, it always has been and they're now barely even trying to hide it. The only justification for pressing on without considering a second referendum or alternative deals is that it stops the Tory party splitting in two.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:43 - Feb 1 with 6217 viewsHerbivore

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:41 - Feb 1 by Pecker

Yet more tells of sorrow. I am sure that in a few years we will all realise that not a lot has changed and that that has maybe has changed for the better. Lets just wait and see shall we.


What's the basis for your optimism?

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:49 - Feb 1 with 6194 viewsDarth_Koont

Of course, nothing like that many would act on those plans in full. But that's still an awful lot of businesses and jobs.

Irrespective of what happens, it's criminal of May and her government to have created and perpetuated this fog of uncertainty. And shows her empty words about doing what's best for the UK for what they are.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:52 - Feb 1 with 6181 viewsHerbivore

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:49 - Feb 1 by Darth_Koont

Of course, nothing like that many would act on those plans in full. But that's still an awful lot of businesses and jobs.

Irrespective of what happens, it's criminal of May and her government to have created and perpetuated this fog of uncertainty. And shows her empty words about doing what's best for the UK for what they are.


Sure, there's no way all those businesses will go ahead with it but even should 10% of those considering it decide to go ahead that's a big dent in our economy. I don't know how anyone could vote Tory again after the way they've screwed the country over this. They've failed abjectly and it's so clear their only concern is self-preservation.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:55 - Feb 1 with 6167 viewsitfcjoe

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:42 - Feb 1 by Herbivore

Yep, it always has been and they're now barely even trying to hide it. The only justification for pressing on without considering a second referendum or alternative deals is that it stops the Tory party splitting in two.


Sounds like this is what is frustrating the EU even more with it now, that it is all about the party and not the country

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:58 - Feb 1 with 6155 viewsGuthrum

It's not strictly Bexit, tho. It is specifically the fear of No Deal which is driving a lot of that movement.

Any kind of reasonable Withdrawal Agreement getting passed will settle down much of the panic.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:00 - Feb 1 with 6144 viewsSomethingBlue

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:52 - Feb 1 by Herbivore

Sure, there's no way all those businesses will go ahead with it but even should 10% of those considering it decide to go ahead that's a big dent in our economy. I don't know how anyone could vote Tory again after the way they've screwed the country over this. They've failed abjectly and it's so clear their only concern is self-preservation.


Yet they will survive because they always do: they're absolute masters of it. People in this country should be out marching on the streets every weekend but there just isn't the level of engagement that you get in other places.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:04 - Feb 1 with 6118 viewsHerbivore

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 09:58 - Feb 1 by Guthrum

It's not strictly Bexit, tho. It is specifically the fear of No Deal which is driving a lot of that movement.

Any kind of reasonable Withdrawal Agreement getting passed will settle down much of the panic.


Although the Withdrawal Agreement is just the start of another two years of negotiation. It offers a stay rather than stability.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:06 - Feb 1 with 6112 viewsHerbivore

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:00 - Feb 1 by SomethingBlue

Yet they will survive because they always do: they're absolute masters of it. People in this country should be out marching on the streets every weekend but there just isn't the level of engagement that you get in other places.


Yeah, they need overthrowing. They're a throwback to the 19th century. There was a source from the EU who, clearly exasperated, spoke out about Brexit being a Tory party issue from start to finish.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:23 - Feb 1 with 6078 viewsGuthrum

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:04 - Feb 1 by Herbivore

Although the Withdrawal Agreement is just the start of another two years of negotiation. It offers a stay rather than stability.


Which is a lot better than not having one.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:24 - Feb 1 with 6076 viewsHerbivore

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:23 - Feb 1 by Guthrum

Which is a lot better than not having one.


Agreed, it's just not necessarily going to be a panacea. And who knows if a deal that keeps the Tories and DUP happy (which is what this is all about) is even possible.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:32 - Feb 1 with 6054 viewsGuthrum

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:24 - Feb 1 by Herbivore

Agreed, it's just not necessarily going to be a panacea. And who knows if a deal that keeps the Tories and DUP happy (which is what this is all about) is even possible.


By the end of the WA period, we may not have a Tory/DUP government. At the rate things are going, we might even not have a Tory Party at all, in its current form. If the present stresses continue, it could pull both them and Labour apart.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:36 - Feb 1 with 6043 viewsHerbivore

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:32 - Feb 1 by Guthrum

By the end of the WA period, we may not have a Tory/DUP government. At the rate things are going, we might even not have a Tory Party at all, in its current form. If the present stresses continue, it could pull both them and Labour apart.


The Tories have closed ranks and this is now all about their preservation. I don't foresee a split, May won't do anything that jeopardises the party. I don't see another GE anytime soon either. We'll sleepwalk into a modified deal or no deal.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:44 - Feb 1 with 6033 viewsBloomBlue

Although you have the head of PwC when asked would a no deal or a Labour gov be worst for PwC in terms of keeping roles in the UK, his answer was a Labour gov. That would result in moving roles out of the UK because of the increase in costs
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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:52 - Feb 1 with 5995 viewsGlasgowBlue

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:44 - Feb 1 by BloomBlue

Although you have the head of PwC when asked would a no deal or a Labour gov be worst for PwC in terms of keeping roles in the UK, his answer was a Labour gov. That would result in moving roles out of the UK because of the increase in costs


You've been here long enough to know the score by now.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:52 - Feb 1 with 6004 viewsGuthrum

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:36 - Feb 1 by Herbivore

The Tories have closed ranks and this is now all about their preservation. I don't foresee a split, May won't do anything that jeopardises the party. I don't see another GE anytime soon either. We'll sleepwalk into a modified deal or no deal.


Have to wait and see how the next two months plays out. The closing of ranks is very fragile and dependent upon each faction getting what they want. Which is why May is now trying to bribe Labour MPs from Leave constituencies to get her deal through.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:54 - Feb 1 with 5997 viewsfooters

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:52 - Feb 1 by GlasgowBlue

You've been here long enough to know the score by now.

If big business threaten to move because of Brexit then it's "we are all doomed". If big business threaten to move because of a Corbyn government it's "fcuk 'em. Good riddence to the tax doging cu^ts"


In the case of the Big Four, they're probably more frightened of increased scrutiny over their industrialised tax-evading schemes. So yeah, fck em.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:55 - Feb 1 with 5992 viewsGuthrum

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:44 - Feb 1 by BloomBlue

Although you have the head of PwC when asked would a no deal or a Labour gov be worst for PwC in terms of keeping roles in the UK, his answer was a Labour gov. That would result in moving roles out of the UK because of the increase in costs


That doesn't necessarily make No Deal a good thing, he just thinks a Corbyn-led government would be worse.

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Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 11:04 - Feb 1 with 5975 viewsGuthrum

Brexit is a disaster #2333333458 on 10:54 - Feb 1 by footers

In the case of the Big Four, they're probably more frightened of increased scrutiny over their industrialised tax-evading schemes. So yeah, fck em.


Or their curious interpretation of the word "audit" (with reference to cake shops).

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