| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup 20:57 - Jan 5 with 10694 views | Oxford_Blue |
But the difference is that this is not Lambert’s team, whereas Hurst has asembled and chosen the side he lambasted.
It’s true: many of the players are not good enough and lack desire or hunger.
Evans has tried to own a football club on the cheap. I don’t accept he is better off as a result through tax schemes etc. It’s simply that he saw a business chance in 2007 and despite some early investment it didn’t pay off and sometime around 2011/12 he decided to rein in the spending, recover outlays through player sales and hope the club would be a mid table side that might challenge now and then for the play offs - which it did under MM.
Evans now wants out, clearly, and despite the denials from club that it’s for sale he has said he will sell for the right price to the right buyer. So, clearly, it’s up for sale.
Problem is that if there was a knight in shining armour wanting to save the club, they would have surely come forward by now.
So we are stuck with Evans and he is stuck with us. |  | | |  |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:11 - Jan 6 with 3399 views | itfcjoe |
Hurst came out and slated his team after 2 games
Lambert has worked with the squad Hurst left him for 10 games before he has done the same thing.
Big difference |  |
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| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:14 - Jan 6 with 3384 views | itfcjoe |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 11:16 - Jan 6 by suffolkpoker |
I do agree some what with that. The trouble is when we are looking for new ownership and trying to look a good investment. Our biggest Assest we only own the stands and not the land it sits.
Would you accept a decent owner (Dubai consortium etc) who sold the land moved us to whitton but invested heavily into the squad?
I love Portman road and would a sad day but for long term it could be better |
No decent owner with the best interests of the club at heart would need to move grounds.
They either have enough money to invest properly, or they don't. | |
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| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:23 - Jan 6 with 3362 views | Bluesquid |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:11 - Jan 6 by itfcjoe |
Hurst came out and slated his team after 2 games
Lambert has worked with the squad Hurst left him for 10 games before he has done the same thing.
Big difference |
But is Lambert now referring to the same problems that Hurst did early on? | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:29 - Jan 6 with 3353 views | itfcjoe |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:23 - Jan 6 by Bluesquid |
But is Lambert now referring to the same problems that Hurst did early on? |
Possibly - but Hurst had a chance to shape the squad whereas Lambert hasn't as yet | |
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| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:32 - Jan 6 with 3345 views | Bluesquid |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:29 - Jan 6 by itfcjoe |
Possibly - but Hurst had a chance to shape the squad whereas Lambert hasn't as yet |
Shape the squad is one thing but what if players can't get the basics of defending right as Lambert mentioned in his interview? | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:33 - Jan 6 with 3342 views | itfcjoe |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:32 - Jan 6 by Bluesquid |
Shape the squad is one thing but what if players can't get the basics of defending right as Lambert mentioned in his interview? |
Well if they can't get the basics right then it is either a coaching issue, or a player issue.
And if it is a player issue then Lambert will look to replace them - he hasn't the opportunity to as yet | |
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| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:57 - Jan 6 with 3304 views | Oxford_Blue |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:10 - Jan 6 by wkj |
While I may not agree with the context of this post, reporting it as abuse is a bit stupid isnt it? |
Yes. Why is it abuse? | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 13:14 - Jan 6 with 3280 views | Bluesquid |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 12:57 - Jan 6 by Oxford_Blue |
Yes. Why is it abuse? |
Reporting abuse should not be anonymous imo, the accused should at least be informed who the accuser is.
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| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 13:24 - Jan 6 with 3262 views | J2BLUE |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 21:06 - Jan 5 by suffolkpoker |
There are buyer out there but ME needs to make it look better
We need new buyer to own training ground (ME bought it off town)
We need our debt cleared - ME has added to it with every purchase.
We need to own the free hold of the stadium. Council own it.
Everything sells if the price is right and the freehold values are there.
I can see someone buying us cheap in league 1 tbh |
ME bought the training ground as a measure of practicality. No doubt it would be part of any deal to see the club.
Our debt would likely be cleared, or Evans would sell it at a reduced rate similar to how he acquired it in the first place.
The freehold is irrelevant is the lease term is long enough and can you imagine the council trying to evict Town? It would never happen due to the massive backlash.
If he wants rid of the club, Evans is going to have to take a reduced price. He used the club for an investment gamble which failed miserably. Now he has to either keep it and make a loss each year or swallow his pride and move on. |  |
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| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 13:30 - Jan 6 with 3247 views | patrickswell |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 21:20 - Jan 5 by Oxford_Blue |
Yeah, that’s all great.
Name one. |
I’ll take anyone in this list providing they invest more money than Evansdoes and didn’t make their money from asset stripping, directly order someone to be murdered or have an appalling human rights record.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_Times_Rich_List_2018 |  | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:05 - Jan 6 with 3204 views | suffolkpoker |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 13:24 - Jan 6 by J2BLUE |
ME bought the training ground as a measure of practicality. No doubt it would be part of any deal to see the club.
Our debt would likely be cleared, or Evans would sell it at a reduced rate similar to how he acquired it in the first place.
The freehold is irrelevant is the lease term is long enough and can you imagine the council trying to evict Town? It would never happen due to the massive backlash.
If he wants rid of the club, Evans is going to have to take a reduced price. He used the club for an investment gamble which failed miserably. Now he has to either keep it and make a loss each year or swallow his pride and move on. |
ME bought the training ground to reduce the loss in one of his many years of losses.
Who buys freehold for practically? no one
ME has been Assest stripping this club for years, just look at the plYera sold in his tenure.
Yes it’s so reduce losses but why over spend to start with.
It’s all a smoke screen to reduce his losses on what he thought was going to be a quick flip |  |
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| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:27 - Jan 6 with 3177 views | Oxford_Blue |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 13:30 - Jan 6 by patrickswell |
I’ll take anyone in this list providing they invest more money than Evansdoes and didn’t make their money from asset stripping, directly order someone to be murdered or have an appalling human rights record.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_Times_Rich_List_2018 |
Right....:but isn’t the question whether a single one of them is interested?
Why would anyone want to take over a poisoned chalice that costs them £6-10m just for the privilege each season? With lots of fans then demanding you put in another £20-30m a year. Which sum probably wouldn’t get you promoted anyway. | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:30 - Jan 6 with 3169 views | Oxford_Blue |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:05 - Jan 6 by suffolkpoker |
ME bought the training ground to reduce the loss in one of his many years of losses.
Who buys freehold for practically? no one
ME has been Assest stripping this club for years, just look at the plYera sold in his tenure.
Yes it’s so reduce losses but why over spend to start with.
It’s all a smoke screen to reduce his losses on what he thought was going to be a quick flip |
Yes, from about 2012 onwards he stopped making much money available for new players or wages and he retained the bulk of player sales.
I suspect the economic conditions then and now have bit his other businesses which are heavily reliant on companies splashing cash on hospitality and he has far less cash to burn than in 2007.
I doubt the club is worth more than about £5-10m, assuming Evans is prepared to write off the debt. I also suspect that Evans is actively looking for a buyer. | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:39 - Jan 6 with 3159 views | patrickswell |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:27 - Jan 6 by Oxford_Blue |
Right....:but isn’t the question whether a single one of them is interested?
Why would anyone want to take over a poisoned chalice that costs them £6-10m just for the privilege each season? With lots of fans then demanding you put in another £20-30m a year. Which sum probably wouldn’t get you promoted anyway. |
No, the question was to name someone who might succeed Evans. Now, you want a psychological profile of motives as well?
On this line of thinking, no-one is ever going to buy us. I don’t know who to pity more, Evans or ourselves. | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:46 - Jan 6 with 3146 views | sparks |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:05 - Jan 6 by suffolkpoker |
ME bought the training ground to reduce the loss in one of his many years of losses.
Who buys freehold for practically? no one
ME has been Assest stripping this club for years, just look at the plYera sold in his tenure.
Yes it’s so reduce losses but why over spend to start with.
It’s all a smoke screen to reduce his losses on what he thought was going to be a quick flip |
Deary me. He could eliinate his losses altogether by simply not agreeing to pay any players wages or transfer fees which are in excess of the clubs income.
Its not asset stripping by any normal definition either... [Post edited 6 Jan 2019 14:47]
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| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:52 - Jan 6 with 3136 views | Oxford_Blue |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:39 - Jan 6 by patrickswell |
No, the question was to name someone who might succeed Evans. Now, you want a psychological profile of motives as well?
On this line of thinking, no-one is ever going to buy us. I don’t know who to pity more, Evans or ourselves. |
No it’s still a really simple point.
If Evans is to go, who will replace him?
So far no one has been able to answer this other than “someone might do”. | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 15:02 - Jan 6 with 3122 views | patrickswell |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:52 - Jan 6 by Oxford_Blue |
No it’s still a really simple point.
If Evans is to go, who will replace him?
So far no one has been able to answer this other than “someone might do”. |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_Times_Rich_List_2018
Earlier caveats still apply. | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 20:55 - Jan 6 with 3035 views | suffolkpoker |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:39 - Jan 6 by patrickswell |
No, the question was to name someone who might succeed Evans. Now, you want a psychological profile of motives as well?
On this line of thinking, no-one is ever going to buy us. I don’t know who to pity more, Evans or ourselves. |
My preferred choice
1# Godolphin
2# Stride Gaming - owners of daub Alderney Ltd (who own magical Vegas)
Both would make ME look like #ChumpChange | |
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| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 21:01 - Jan 6 with 3031 views | suffolkpoker |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:46 - Jan 6 by sparks |
Deary me. He could eliinate his losses altogether by simply not agreeing to pay any players wages or transfer fees which are in excess of the clubs income.
Its not asset stripping by any normal definition either... [Post edited 6 Jan 2019 14:47]
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How about running the club effiectly soit doesn’t loose money?
Selling top players and not reinvesting = Assest stripping
Selling freehold and leasing back = Depleating / stripping assets
Our biggest revenue at the moment is sky money and if we down is going to shrink. | |
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| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 21:24 - Jan 6 with 3013 views | HARRY10 |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 14:05 - Jan 6 by suffolkpoker |
ME bought the training ground to reduce the loss in one of his many years of losses.
Who buys freehold for practically? no one
ME has been Assest stripping this club for years, just look at the plYera sold in his tenure.
Yes it’s so reduce losses but why over spend to start with.
It’s all a smoke screen to reduce his losses on what he thought was going to be a quick flip |
Steady, old fellow. The sycophants will not welcome those sort of comments.
A bit more of the 'pumping in money' is what is needed. As well as a considerable amount of delusion.
Money that has been transferred out of the club to a fund where other Evans companies have access to it is not asset stripping. No siree. It is about that money 'resting in Evans account.
Just as the training ground is now owned by an off shore company based in Guernsey. We need to be a bit more grateful. More forelock tugging and more bowing and scrapping.
A recognition of where Evans ownership has taken us, and less grumbling. | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 21:25 - Jan 6 with 3011 views | Oxford_Blue |
It’s hopeless and desperate to point to a list of rich people as an argument as to who might buy the club. What prospect is there of any of them wanting to do this?
That’s the point.
Otherwise it’s not an argument to say that rich people exist. | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 21:48 - Jan 6 with 2989 views | patrickswell |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 21:25 - Jan 6 by Oxford_Blue |
It’s hopeless and desperate to point to a list of rich people as an argument as to who might buy the club. What prospect is there of any of them wanting to do this?
That’s the point.
Otherwise it’s not an argument to say that rich people exist. |
And yet it seems on this board that unless me or anyone else who is unhappy with what Evans is doing, doesn’t name a buyer or personally recommend them atogether with a detailed financial plan for what they might do to take the club forward, then we’re a disgrace to the club and should be ashamed of ourselves. (Not something you’ve said, but others have and which I hope shows up the “You want Evans out? Who replaces him? Come on, tell me!” argument as equally silly). | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 22:08 - Jan 6 with 2963 views | Oxford_Blue |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 21:48 - Jan 6 by patrickswell |
And yet it seems on this board that unless me or anyone else who is unhappy with what Evans is doing, doesn’t name a buyer or personally recommend them atogether with a detailed financial plan for what they might do to take the club forward, then we’re a disgrace to the club and should be ashamed of ourselves. (Not something you’ve said, but others have and which I hope shows up the “You want Evans out? Who replaces him? Come on, tell me!” argument as equally silly). |
As you say, I’ve never accused anyone of being a disgrace for wanting Evans out.
I want him out too.
My point is that simply saying “Evans out” repeatedly suggests a lack of understanding of the structure of ownership of the club and the effect of Evans going.
He is the owner. If he goes, it’s because the club no longer exists or because he’s sold it.
Given the first option isn’t really an option, it makes the second question vital - who will buy the club with the means to make us competitive? Providing a list of rich people doesn’t address this question I’m afraid. | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 22:58 - Jan 6 with 2940 views | legal_blue |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 21:06 - Jan 5 by suffolkpoker |
There are buyer out there but ME needs to make it look better
We need new buyer to own training ground (ME bought it off town)
We need our debt cleared - ME has added to it with every purchase.
We need to own the free hold of the stadium. Council own it.
Everything sells if the price is right and the freehold values are there.
I can see someone buying us cheap in league 1 tbh |
If you did want to buy Town, then why pay over the odds now, when in May, we'll be available for a tenth of the price? | | | |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 23:23 - Jan 6 with 2923 views | suffolkpoker |
| Lambert’s comments today echoed those of Hurst after Exeter in the league cup on 22:58 - Jan 6 by legal_blue |
If you did want to buy Town, then why pay over the odds now, when in May, we'll be available for a tenth of the price? |
You honestly think our value drops by 90%
Yes a huge chunk of our income is sky money from being in the championship.
It doesn’t drop by that much.
I agree our price when and if we go down drops a lot but not 90%.
Really our price ‘now’ should be factored in on the ‘relegation price’ as we are nailed on to go down.
If I was looking to buy, I buy now at the league 1 price and roll the dice for the last 20 games.
If we are talking suited owners mine are:-
1# Godolphin
2# Stride
3# Constitemim headed up by Simon Milton | |
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