| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' 09:51 - Aug 28 with 25444 views | tpsontour |
Who's laughing now? Mick's gone and Ipswich are bottom
CHIEF SPORTS WRITER
MARTIN SAMUEL
MICK McCARTHY spent the last season at Ipswich being pilloried: negative football, players out of position, the criticism became a maddening drone. Having said he would stand down at the end of the season, he quit with four games to go, following a 1-0 win over Barnsley. A substitution after 56 minutes got the bird. 'I won't have to listen to that again – I'm out of here,' said McCarthy, and quit. Ipswich were 12th at the time, top of a rump of teams that were not in the mix of the play-offs, yet in no danger of going down. Considering the club were 19th in the Championship for wages, and transfer funds were close to non-existent, McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job. Still, freed from his negative football and baffling decisions, Ipswich are now able to realise their full potential. They're bottom. |  | | |  |
| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:01 - Aug 28 with 9373 views | textbackup |
he's got all his mates bigging him up hasn't he.
oh well. |  |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:02 - Aug 28 with 9384 views | Guthrum |
'Chief Sports Writer' annoyed famous manager he's heard of is gone and he now has the trouble of researching the new bloke. However, compensated for by being able to make cheap jibe based on easy judgement lass than half-a-dozen games into the new season. |  |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:04 - Aug 28 with 9340 views | WarkTheWarkITFC |
We are going to have to get used to stuff like this unfortunately.
Mick did do a good job in terms of league position against resources. However, that was at a cost of making thousands of Portman Road regulars fall out of love with the club. I think Phil summed it up well over the weekend in that it was potentially causing more harm to the club long term than falling into League One might be.
You could make an argument for better attendances if we were in League One next year under Hurst than if we were in the Championship still under McCarthy, as odd as that is for an outsider to understand.
There will be sections of the press that think Mick did an outstanding job because they didn't see the football or the decline of the whole spirit of the club. They see a team with a relegation budget finishing mid-table.
Mick is also a lovely bloke, who has been around for decades, managed for years, knows all the journalists and is no doubt liked by them. I dare say if Mick had been doing an average to poor job he'd still be supported by some of his mates that want to see him back in a job.
I am very confident we will be nowhere near relegation this season then we can shut people like this up. However, it's going to be a few months at least of being in and around trouble unless we put a remarkable run together, so we are going to be subjected to this sort of nonsense regularly until then.
We are effectively ripping out the entire kitchen due to a rot that had set in that the old house owner had been wallpapering over. We will be in a much better position at the end of the process, but to anyone wandering in now and taking the most simplistic view, they didn't see the rot before, but now they can so it must be down to the new owners of the house, who they have also assumed is finished with the project and this is how everything will remain. [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 10:05]
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:06 - Aug 28 with 9307 views | PositivelyPortman |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:08 - Aug 28 with 9276 views | hype313 |
He should be more concerned how his beloved West Ham are doing given the £100m outlay, rather than worry about one of his mates out of a job.
Interesting how whenever you hear him speak he's all for the long term plan, how ridiculous it is that managers get sacked so quickly, yet he's pointing out we are bottom, in August. |  |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:09 - Aug 28 with 9269 views | tractorshark |
Unfortunately, this is how a lot of people outside of the club, media and fans alike, perceive Ipswich fans.
I don’t agree with the personal abuse McCarthy received towards the end but I did agree, and still agree, it was time to change.
We were stale and treading water. All things come to an end.
However, McCarthy is well liked by the media and also by most opposition fans who love the soundbite quotes and blunt one-liners.
They see an honest, hard-working and honourable guy, which he is.
So when it is reported that Ipswich fans wanted him out, which we did, it doesn’t take a genius to work out which side they will favour.
Anyone who watched us will have witnessed the attritional football but that is outweighed by the obvious budget restraints.
From the outside looking in, right now, we are Birmingham after they sacked Rowett. | | | |
| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:10 - Aug 28 with 9247 views | footers |
| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:06 - Aug 28 by PositivelyPortman |
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Martin Samuel certainly doesn't need any more to eat! |  |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:12 - Aug 28 with 9221 views | CBMTOBWMMBG |
| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:04 - Aug 28 by WarkTheWarkITFC |
We are going to have to get used to stuff like this unfortunately.
Mick did do a good job in terms of league position against resources. However, that was at a cost of making thousands of Portman Road regulars fall out of love with the club. I think Phil summed it up well over the weekend in that it was potentially causing more harm to the club long term than falling into League One might be.
You could make an argument for better attendances if we were in League One next year under Hurst than if we were in the Championship still under McCarthy, as odd as that is for an outsider to understand.
There will be sections of the press that think Mick did an outstanding job because they didn't see the football or the decline of the whole spirit of the club. They see a team with a relegation budget finishing mid-table.
Mick is also a lovely bloke, who has been around for decades, managed for years, knows all the journalists and is no doubt liked by them. I dare say if Mick had been doing an average to poor job he'd still be supported by some of his mates that want to see him back in a job.
I am very confident we will be nowhere near relegation this season then we can shut people like this up. However, it's going to be a few months at least of being in and around trouble unless we put a remarkable run together, so we are going to be subjected to this sort of nonsense regularly until then.
We are effectively ripping out the entire kitchen due to a rot that had set in that the old house owner had been wallpapering over. We will be in a much better position at the end of the process, but to anyone wandering in now and taking the most simplistic view, they didn't see the rot before, but now they can so it must be down to the new owners of the house, who they have also assumed is finished with the project and this is how everything will remain. [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 10:05]
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We are certainly rebuilding.
We’re not certain if the builder is any good or not yet, though. It is surely too early to judge, either way. Is he using the right materials? We don’t know. | | | |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:18 - Aug 28 with 9156 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Unfortunately, all of that is true. He could have added that this season Town actually tried against a makeshift Exeter side - and lost. As revamps go, this one, so far, is stuck in reverse gear. Young players being loaned out while others are yo-yoed in wont improve things much either. However, there are a few games left to go. | |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:19 - Aug 28 with 9138 views | Reuser_is_God |
Doesn’t he work for Daily Mail? |  |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:19 - Aug 28 with 9138 views | christiand |
Perhaps that story should be put on the back burner and see where we finish come the end of the season? If we do end up in League 1, then he's spot on. | |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:20 - Aug 28 with 9134 views | RegencyBlue |
Lazy journalism from someone who didnt have to pay to watch the dross served up over the last few seasons. |  | | |
| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:24 - Aug 28 with 9068 views | Superblue95 |
| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:18 - Aug 28 by ElephantintheRoom |
Unfortunately, all of that is true. He could have added that this season Town actually tried against a makeshift Exeter side - and lost. As revamps go, this one, so far, is stuck in reverse gear. Young players being loaned out while others are yo-yoed in wont improve things much either. However, there are a few games left to go. |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:24 - Aug 28 with 9061 views | Johnny_Boy |
I wonder how many ITFC games he's seen us play this season under Hurst? Because the proof would clearly be in the pudding. I'd hazard a guess he's not seen us 'in the flesh' at all.
Lazy journalism from an obese lazy journalist, doing his chum a little favour in his section.
Like somebody else has mentioned, he'd be better off turning his concerns towards the siht-show that's happening with his beloved West Ham. |  | | |
| Not really sure what you lot are..... on 10:29 - Aug 28 with 8992 views | Bloots |
....getting your knickers in a twist about.
Apart from the unnecessarily pointed title "Who's laughing now?" then it's all factually correct.
Lets just hope he, like many others, are not able to state theses facts for much longer. |  |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:30 - Aug 28 with 8980 views | Johnny_Boy |
| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:20 - Aug 28 by RegencyBlue |
Lazy journalism from someone who didnt have to pay to watch the dross served up over the last few seasons. |
Assuming he uses his Press Pass to go watch his beloved Spammers - so perversely, he's not spent his own money watching crap for years & years. | | | |
| Not really sure what you lot are..... on 10:36 - Aug 28 with 8936 views | homer_123 |
| Not really sure what you lot are..... on 10:29 - Aug 28 by Bloots |
....getting your knickers in a twist about.
Apart from the unnecessarily pointed title "Who's laughing now?" then it's all factually correct.
Lets just hope he, like many others, are not able to state theses facts for much longer. |
Indeed Bloots.
We've seen some green shoots under PH but as I've stated before, a dose of realism is needed. The football (in terms of style) is better than under Mick but we had such a low base that anything would be better.
It's not groundbreaking football or wonderful one touch stuff. We can see what he's trying to do but we are still ponderous and slow at times (as we were under Mick) - couple that with no wins and it's a terrible start.
Here's hoping that it improves as of Sunday and we can all be happy going forward. |  |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:37 - Aug 28 with 8913 views | Guthrum |
| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:18 - Aug 28 by ElephantintheRoom |
Unfortunately, all of that is true. He could have added that this season Town actually tried against a makeshift Exeter side - and lost. As revamps go, this one, so far, is stuck in reverse gear. Young players being loaned out while others are yo-yoed in wont improve things much either. However, there are a few games left to go. |
'... makeshift ...' - what, two changes from the team who finished the previous match at Morecambe and started the following one against Newport (one of those being a rotation off the bench).
I don't care if that makes our defeat (on penalties) no better, it's the casual rewriting of history to paint an unnecessarily negative picture. | |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:39 - Aug 28 with 8890 views | Kieran_Knows |
Interesting isn't it, Mick is THAT good, yet he's still without a job. |  |
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| Well yes.... on 10:39 - Aug 28 with 8889 views | Bloots |
| Not really sure what you lot are..... on 10:36 - Aug 28 by homer_123 |
Indeed Bloots.
We've seen some green shoots under PH but as I've stated before, a dose of realism is needed. The football (in terms of style) is better than under Mick but we had such a low base that anything would be better.
It's not groundbreaking football or wonderful one touch stuff. We can see what he's trying to do but we are still ponderous and slow at times (as we were under Mick) - couple that with no wins and it's a terrible start.
Here's hoping that it improves as of Sunday and we can all be happy going forward. |
....quite correct.
Be interesting to see how the "rabid outers" can argue with this.
Balance is needed, as always. | |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:42 - Aug 28 with 8858 views | ArnieM |
...and McCarthy is going great guns at his current Club..........Oh ! |  |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:47 - Aug 28 with 8790 views | J2BLUE |
Who the fook cares?
We've had five league games. It's an easy story for journalists at the moment.
We were mid table also rans going nowhere. If you were in jail for life and they offered you a coin toss, head you're free, tails you're sentenced to death how many would turn it down? Sometimes a gamble is absolutely right to take. People are jumping while the coin is still in mid air. |  |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:58 - Aug 28 with 8679 views | jjblue84 |
We should have been relegated years ago, it’s like supporting a team on life support season after season!! |  | | |
| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:59 - Aug 28 with 8660 views | TractorCam |
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| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 11:01 - Aug 28 with 8642 views | connorscontract |
| Martin Samuel: 'McCarthy was doing a highly creditable job...Ipswich now bottom' on 10:10 - Aug 28 by footers |
Martin Samuel certainly doesn't need any more to eat! |
Reminds me of the Jimmy Carr line, about a larger lady who came up to him after a gig to complain about a joke about fat people.
"You can't say that!"
"Yes, I can..."
"You're fat-ist"
"No, I think you'll find YOU'RE fattest..." [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 11:09]
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