| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? 11:04 - Feb 21 with 5465 views | BaaBaaBlue |
Apologies if this has previously been discussed..
Just wanted to gauge what people were thinking about mid to long term future of our club.
With the ever increasing prospect of a North Ipswich bypass, would this be the ideal time to move out of Portman Rd?
To me this makes so much sense (as much as I have loved the place for 40 years since I was 6 years old)
I feel as a club we're losing ground on Norwich (how important this is to you is in question) and I feel it's only a matter of time before they easily become the powerhouse of EastAnglia.. my bet is although Lowestoft is in Suffolk, I bet a fair few football fans from the town support Norwich (which is fine if that's what you want over Ipswich
We have falling gates (not a new phenomenon, but still a worry)
The way I see it, a new bypass, a railway in the area too, nearer and easier for supporters from Lowestoft/BSE to get to.. easier to police.. space to build a designated sports complex with outlets (food, shopping etc)
For me Portman Rd can be a hassle to get to, parking and traffic jams etc..
Personally, I'd love to see our club brought into the newer age.. better facilities (I find buying a tea/pie/beer at football matches a total embarrassment, even though it's not the priority of the majority), branding, bums on seats..
I'm sure it'll happen one day, but whether that's in my lifetime remains to be seen..
I genuinely believe if this doesn't happen sooner rather than later, we'll miss the boat and our Northern neighbours could well beat us to modernisation and win a whole new army of support..
I know people hate change (genuinely myself too) but with this Northern Bypass looking ever likely, surely relocating our club should at least be discussed..
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:05 - Feb 21 with 4977 views | unbelievablue |
3/10. |  |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:11 - Feb 21 with 4939 views | Steve_M |
Football grounds are ideally situated a short walk from the local town centre, near a good variety of pubs and with easy transport links. PR being minutes from the station rather than a bus ride away is a good thing.
Norwich had their chance to be better than us but have well and truly blown it.
And what you describe in the state of the ground is down to Evans' relentless cost cutting of all non-footballing expenditure. |  |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:12 - Feb 21 with 4937 views | Uncle_Bulgaria |
Couldn't disagree more I'm afraid.
We have one of the very few remaining "central" ground locations, and you would struggle to find any stadium with better connectivity than ours anywhere in the country (aside from Ipswich's location which is beyond anyone's control!). It would be a very sad day if we ever went down the road of other clubs with soulless out-of-town stadiums which are a pain in the arse to get to and miles from any decent pubs etc (Reading, MK Dons, Boro, Southampton - there are sooooo many)
The stadium could do with a re-fit, no question about that but the capacity is fine for us and there would be very little upside to moving
As for your concerns about ever being over-taken by Norwich - that will never happen, for any reason. That's just preposterous |  | | |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:13 - Feb 21 with 4928 views | unbelievablue |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:12 - Feb 21 by Uncle_Bulgaria |
Couldn't disagree more I'm afraid.
We have one of the very few remaining "central" ground locations, and you would struggle to find any stadium with better connectivity than ours anywhere in the country (aside from Ipswich's location which is beyond anyone's control!). It would be a very sad day if we ever went down the road of other clubs with soulless out-of-town stadiums which are a pain in the arse to get to and miles from any decent pubs etc (Reading, MK Dons, Boro, Southampton - there are sooooo many)
The stadium could do with a re-fit, no question about that but the capacity is fine for us and there would be very little upside to moving
As for your concerns about ever being over-taken by Norwich - that will never happen, for any reason. That's just preposterous |
"...and you would struggle to find any stadium with better connectivity than ours anywhere in the country"
Eh? | |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:22 - Feb 21 with 4896 views | BaaBaaBlue |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:11 - Feb 21 by Steve_M |
Football grounds are ideally situated a short walk from the local town centre, near a good variety of pubs and with easy transport links. PR being minutes from the station rather than a bus ride away is a good thing.
Norwich had their chance to be better than us but have well and truly blown it.
And what you describe in the state of the ground is down to Evans' relentless cost cutting of all non-footballing expenditure. |
We're hardly filling the place.. I wonder what percentage of people that go to games actually walk to games.. of course I understand the content concept of walking to games, a couple of pints.. yes, we represent Ipswich, but we also represent the People of Suffolk too, and further afield.. And I'm no wealthy man, but I'd wage a fair few quid that Norwich will be in the PL before Ipswich.. I feel our club is being stiffled at the moment, nobody at the top seems to have any forward thinking in my opinion | | | |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:24 - Feb 21 with 4879 views | Uncle_Bulgaria |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:13 - Feb 21 by unbelievablue |
"...and you would struggle to find any stadium with better connectivity than ours anywhere in the country"
Eh? |
Proximity to the station, car parks etc; good access to A12/A14. My mates who support other clubs love Ipswich away - literally don't have to walk more than 1/2 mile for train, beer, match. Must be close to the best in the country for an away fan....apart from actually getting to Ipswich itself!
Obviously not the town's location on a map - think I alluded to that | | | |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:26 - Feb 21 with 4860 views | unbelievablue |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:24 - Feb 21 by Uncle_Bulgaria |
Proximity to the station, car parks etc; good access to A12/A14. My mates who support other clubs love Ipswich away - literally don't have to walk more than 1/2 mile for train, beer, match. Must be close to the best in the country for an away fan....apart from actually getting to Ipswich itself!
Obviously not the town's location on a map - think I alluded to that |
Hmm. Unconvinced, given nowhere decent to drink for away fans. | |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:27 - Feb 21 with 4850 views | Fixed_It |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:26 - Feb 21 by unbelievablue |
Hmm. Unconvinced, given nowhere decent to drink for away fans. |
Surely they can take the Station Hotel easily enough?! |  |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:29 - Feb 21 with 4842 views | BaaBaaBlue |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:12 - Feb 21 by Uncle_Bulgaria |
Couldn't disagree more I'm afraid.
We have one of the very few remaining "central" ground locations, and you would struggle to find any stadium with better connectivity than ours anywhere in the country (aside from Ipswich's location which is beyond anyone's control!). It would be a very sad day if we ever went down the road of other clubs with soulless out-of-town stadiums which are a pain in the arse to get to and miles from any decent pubs etc (Reading, MK Dons, Boro, Southampton - there are sooooo many)
The stadium could do with a re-fit, no question about that but the capacity is fine for us and there would be very little upside to moving
As for your concerns about ever being over-taken by Norwich - that will never happen, for any reason. That's just preposterous |
Souless??
I've been to a few home games this season, it's hardly a buzz..
I struggle to take my nephews to a game.. they love football, but hardly find it an exciting prospect of sitting at PR.. win or lose
Also, it's necessarily the most scientific of gauges, but are you aware that Ipswich Town has 124k Twitter followers and Norwich has over half a million! For a town of what 200k that is a hell of a lot of people from outside the town.. obviously, a small stint in the PL has helped their cause, one more could really put them on the map [Post edited 21 Feb 2018 11:35]
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:32 - Feb 21 with 4822 views | Popeadrian64 |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:24 - Feb 21 by Uncle_Bulgaria |
Proximity to the station, car parks etc; good access to A12/A14. My mates who support other clubs love Ipswich away - literally don't have to walk more than 1/2 mile for train, beer, match. Must be close to the best in the country for an away fan....apart from actually getting to Ipswich itself!
Obviously not the town's location on a map - think I alluded to that |
Look at Colchester moving to the outskirts of town, they fully regret it now. Portman Road is our spiritual home and I commented on Sunday how good it looks from the train station. All it needs is a good spruce up/lick of paint/bit of pride installed in it. Nothing beats an evening game under the Portman Road lights. I only wish, when they built the Pioneer (Coop ) stand is that they moved the pitch around so Portman Rd/Cobbold Stand would be behind the goal, the side stands would be better and the sun would get on the pitch and help with todays issues. (Wolves did this when they redeveloped Molineux). | | | |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:42 - Feb 21 with 4771 views | Keno |
thee is still the plan to move the stadium
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 12:04 - Feb 21 with 4676 views | itfcjoe |
Such a weak attempt from a Budgie this one - 0/10 |  |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 12:05 - Feb 21 with 4673 views | EastTownBlue |
I'm sure that those who enjoy a trip to Reading will agree with you. There will be someone. [Post edited 21 Feb 2018 12:05]
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 12:06 - Feb 21 with 4653 views | ITFC1983 |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:05 - Feb 21 by unbelievablue |
3/10. |
Far too generous... |  |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 12:07 - Feb 21 with 4651 views | Mullet |
I doubt you lot will manage to fill your mums this time next year. |  |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 12:07 - Feb 21 with 4651 views | Uncle_Bulgaria |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:29 - Feb 21 by BaaBaaBlue |
Souless??
I've been to a few home games this season, it's hardly a buzz..
I struggle to take my nephews to a game.. they love football, but hardly find it an exciting prospect of sitting at PR.. win or lose
Also, it's necessarily the most scientific of gauges, but are you aware that Ipswich Town has 124k Twitter followers and Norwich has over half a million! For a town of what 200k that is a hell of a lot of people from outside the town.. obviously, a small stint in the PL has helped their cause, one more could really put them on the map [Post edited 21 Feb 2018 11:35]
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I agree - home games this season have largely been a massive drag (I have the same challenges with my kids), but I don't think that would be improved by the location of the stadium one bit - in fact, exactly the opposite
Your twitter comment sounds like exactly the sort of meaningless stat a Norwich fan would come up with to support an "our club is bigger than yours" argument! Stoke, West Brom, Southampton have all had fairly lengthy stays in the Prem with no need to do anything in terms of ground capacity (I accept two of those had relocated already) - point is, being in the Prem does not inevitably lead to an ever-increasing active fan base. Norwich and Ipswich broadly are very similar sized clubs with similar fanbases - attendances will fluctuate with success as has been seen historically (as with all clubs) - neither will outgrow their current capacity materially imho. They've had their chance and messed it up. When/if we get a similar opportunity any time soon is another question entirely! | | | |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 12:13 - Feb 21 with 4609 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 11:32 - Feb 21 by Popeadrian64 |
Look at Colchester moving to the outskirts of town, they fully regret it now. Portman Road is our spiritual home and I commented on Sunday how good it looks from the train station. All it needs is a good spruce up/lick of paint/bit of pride installed in it. Nothing beats an evening game under the Portman Road lights. I only wish, when they built the Pioneer (Coop ) stand is that they moved the pitch around so Portman Rd/Cobbold Stand would be behind the goal, the side stands would be better and the sun would get on the pitch and help with todays issues. (Wolves did this when they redeveloped Molineux). |
No they didn't - Wolves pitch has always run the same way. The side stand the one away fans get when they sit along the side was the first to be redeveloped (late 80s / early 90s) and still runs along the side.
Bournemouth did rotate their pitch 90 degrees when they redeveloped Dean Court and Spurs are moving their's 100 yards along (the six yard boxes of the old and new pitch overlap). |  |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 15:13 - Feb 21 with 4374 views | Kitman |
..The Amex, nice as it is when you are in it is a nightmare to get to and from and you are totally isolated on the outskirts of town. I can't see the outline of Town doing a similar thing being much different.. |  |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 15:21 - Feb 21 with 4338 views | TractorCam |
I definitely do want our ground to be a boring 'arena' located miles out of the town like your Reading's and Bolton's thank you |  |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 15:27 - Feb 21 with 4324 views | TheBlueBarca |
Why on earth would you build a new stadium when your gates are falling to record 20 year lows and losing £8-10million a year already?
People won't attend the games not because the stadium is hard to get to, which it is not, it's because we're overhanging people for a poor product with limited excitement/entertainment. We're more expensive than half the Premier League to watch and play football that would embarrass Wrexham. |  |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 15:29 - Feb 21 with 4312 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 15:27 - Feb 21 by TheBlueBarca |
Why on earth would you build a new stadium when your gates are falling to record 20 year lows and losing £8-10million a year already?
People won't attend the games not because the stadium is hard to get to, which it is not, it's because we're overhanging people for a poor product with limited excitement/entertainment. We're more expensive than half the Premier League to watch and play football that would embarrass Wrexham. |
People comparing our / Any other Champ club's pricing to the Prem are falling for a red herring. | |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 15:31 - Feb 21 with 4305 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 15:27 - Feb 21 by TheBlueBarca |
Why on earth would you build a new stadium when your gates are falling to record 20 year lows and losing £8-10million a year already?
People won't attend the games not because the stadium is hard to get to, which it is not, it's because we're overhanging people for a poor product with limited excitement/entertainment. We're more expensive than half the Premier League to watch and play football that would embarrass Wrexham. |
We could down size?
Next season we may aswell ground share with Col U. |  |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 15:32 - Feb 21 with 4302 views | unbelievablue |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 15:31 - Feb 21 by Reuser_is_God |
We could down size?
Next season we may aswell ground share with Col U. |
Or Wanderers. | |
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| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 15:33 - Feb 21 with 4298 views | TheBlueBarca |
| Northern Ipswich bypass/New stadium? on 15:29 - Feb 21 by ITFC_Forever |
People comparing our / Any other Champ club's pricing to the Prem are falling for a red herring. |
Why? Because it doesn't fit the narrative here? Our pricing is a rip-off compared to the product we're paying for in turn, if thats a red herring than I suggest you need to calm on the internet suffering for a while. | |
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