| Jacob Rees-Mogg 11:27 - Feb 4 with 42584 views | grimboy |
I find him very likeable I know that won’t go down too welll on here but I would like to see him as the next PM wants what’s best for the British people which is what I want and I am sure many others as well wether we are in Europe or Out.
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 17:32 - Feb 4 by Lord_Lucan |
The thing is though Lib you absolutely cannot condemn someone who is pro life.
Personally I am for choice but it is a very serious argument and no one is right or wrong - and no one should be vilified for their views on the subject. |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 17:58 - Feb 4 with 3980 views | Lord_Lucan |
Wow.
As I said Libs my view is pro choice for women but I completely understand the argument for the other side.
You simply cannot criticise the pro life argument, it is completely valid and I would have to completely respect that view.
This is completely not a stupid forum conversation. |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 17:58 - Feb 4 by Lord_Lucan |
Wow.
As I said Libs my view is pro choice for women but I completely understand the argument for the other side.
You simply cannot criticise the pro life argument, it is completely valid and I would have to completely respect that view.
This is completely not a stupid forum conversation. |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:13 - Feb 4 with 3959 views | BlueLikeJazz |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 17:32 - Feb 4 by Lord_Lucan |
The thing is though Lib you absolutely cannot condemn someone who is pro life.
Personally I am for choice but it is a very serious argument and no one is right or wrong - and no one should be vilified for their views on the subject. |
I can and absolutely will condemn someone who is pro forced birth, and as such I don't respect his position one bit.
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:22 - Feb 4 with 3939 views | Ryorry |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 11:49 - Feb 4 by tractorboy1978 |
Take a look at his voting record and then come back. |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:23 - Feb 4 with 3942 views | J2BLUE |
What about the abortions only for rape/incest argument? |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:23 - Feb 4 by J2BLUE |
What about the abortions only for rape/incest argument? |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:27 - Feb 4 with 3928 views | Ryorry |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:13 - Feb 4 by BlueLikeJazz |
I can and absolutely will condemn someone who is pro forced birth, and as such I don't respect his position one bit.
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Well said.
It all reminds me of those anti-abortionists in the USA who are completely pro-life - until the children grow up into adults who protest in favour of choice, whereupon the anti-abortionists threaten to shoot them ... | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:30 - Feb 4 with 3925 views | J2BLUE |
What do you think of it? Asking because you replied with something about 'denying abortions to all'. | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:30 - Feb 4 by J2BLUE |
What do you think of it? Asking because you replied with something about 'denying abortions to all'. |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:37 - Feb 4 with 3905 views | J2BLUE |
Fair enough. | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:39 - Feb 4 with 3900 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:27 - Feb 4 by Ryorry |
Well said.
It all reminds me of those anti-abortionists in the USA who are completely pro-life - until the children grow up into adults who protest in favour of choice, whereupon the anti-abortionists threaten to shoot them ... |
I've always found it utterly bizarre how certain Americans are so pro-life but also so pro-death penalty.
I have no problem with politicians being religious as long as it's about how they live their own life. However, it becomes an issue once they start to wanting to impose their beliefs on others. My experience in Israel (where the smaller religious parties often hold the balance of power) was that there was a lot of imposing religious rules on the secular population - e.g. banning public transport on Saturday. I can understand that religious people wouldn't want to use a bus on their holy day, but why stop others who don't care?
And this is one of the big problems with people bringing their religious convictions into politics — too often it seems to be the people who focus on what I'd call the 'authoritarian' side of religion — i.e. telling other people what they can't do — rather than the helping others side of it. |  | | |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:40 - Feb 4 with 3890 views | Ryorry |
Quite. And the actual life that each individual such child might have in practice doesn't seem to be considered either, by those advocating a blanket law. | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:43 - Feb 4 with 3884 views | imsureazzure |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:39 - Feb 4 by Clapham_Junction |
I've always found it utterly bizarre how certain Americans are so pro-life but also so pro-death penalty.
I have no problem with politicians being religious as long as it's about how they live their own life. However, it becomes an issue once they start to wanting to impose their beliefs on others. My experience in Israel (where the smaller religious parties often hold the balance of power) was that there was a lot of imposing religious rules on the secular population - e.g. banning public transport on Saturday. I can understand that religious people wouldn't want to use a bus on their holy day, but why stop others who don't care?
And this is one of the big problems with people bringing their religious convictions into politics — too often it seems to be the people who focus on what I'd call the 'authoritarian' side of religion — i.e. telling other people what they can't do — rather than the helping others side of it. |
'authoritarian' side of religion'
Is there another side? |  | | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 18:43 - Feb 4 by imsureazzure |
'authoritarian' side of religion'
Is there another side? |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 19:00 - Feb 4 with 3856 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 16:46 - Feb 4 by m14_blue |
A wolf in sheep's clothing. A veneer of politeness that hides deeply discriminatory and objectionable (to me anyway) views. Absolutely in his element when dealing with momentum idiots shouting at him but the mask soon slips when he is caught out by his peers.
His history of filibustering also gives a lie to this idea of an old fashioned gentleman with faultless morals and a genuine belief in our parliamentary democracy.
A barmaid's gentleman. A charlatan who would completely destroy the Conservative party in the extremely unlikely event he ever became its leader.
He may be sincere in his beliefs but so are Farage and McDonnell but I wouldn't want them as PM either. [Post edited 4 Feb 2018 16:50]
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Yep, the opening phrase is what springs to mind. As someone else said, he's got a vaneer of politeness that masks a much darker character underneath.
Thing is the numpties in Momentum and the like play right into his hands and only reinforce that false nice guy image. |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 19:42 - Feb 4 with 3813 views | sparks |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 17:20 - Feb 4 by Trequartista |
Good example. I strongly disagree with him on that but i respect his position. He believes life begins at conception and therefore murder is a stronger crime than rape. Why not just disagree instead of shouting berk at him? |
Because its not a rational or justifiable position based on the science.
His position on homosexuality is equally repugnant. |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 02:28 - Feb 5 with 3723 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 11:45 - Feb 4 by J2BLUE |
I'm sure he is.
His views are based on Christianity. I don't think he's a suitable leader for 2018. |
He's a great man. I think if he was PM he'd wipe the floor with Corbyn in a GE.
Nothing wrong with Christian values, our nation was built on them and a return to such is around the corner. |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 02:29 - Feb 5 with 3719 views | J2BLUE |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 02:28 - Feb 5 by The_Last_Baron |
He's a great man. I think if he was PM he'd wipe the floor with Corbyn in a GE.
Nothing wrong with Christian values, our nation was built on them and a return to such is around the corner. |
Homophobia is a Christian 'value'? | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 02:33 - Feb 5 with 3708 views | SpruceMoose |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 02:28 - Feb 5 by The_Last_Baron |
He's a great man. I think if he was PM he'd wipe the floor with Corbyn in a GE.
Nothing wrong with Christian values, our nation was built on them and a return to such is around the corner. |
BAHAHAHA HAHAHA Dream on Moses. |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 06:55 - Feb 5 with 3682 views | BlueBadger |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 02:28 - Feb 5 by The_Last_Baron |
He's a great man. I think if he was PM he'd wipe the floor with Corbyn in a GE.
Nothing wrong with Christian values, our nation was built on them and a return to such is around the corner. |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 07:16 - Feb 5 with 3671 views | tractordownsouth |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 16:43 - Feb 4 by Lord_Lucan |
You’ve saved me a bit of time and trouble because I pretty much echo what you have said. I think we are at a dangerous crossroad at the moment, not as in the UK but a worldwide thing. If you stop to think I reckon we are closer to a nuclear damnation than what we were in the Cold War. People naturally imagine that a nuclear strike will happen after a long drawn out argument but that won’t be the case. Tomorrow could equal breakfast and bang, never forget that.
Anyhoo, I diverse. The problem is JRM is probably going to be your next prime minister. Boris has taken on board some crazy advice and pretty much blown himself up, back in 2012 he was the kid but he’s blown it.
I’m all for change and have fairly socialist views on human things but if Corbyn ever got in you can wave goodbye. It would be an unmitigated disaster. That man and his party couldn’t run a village hall at this present time.
When all is said and done no one wants the bloody job anyway at the moment.
However - if I had to put my money on it I reckon Michael Gove will be our next glorious leader. To be honest I’m not keen on the bloke and I can’t forgive him for stabbing Boris in his neck but I have to say that whatever he is tasked to do he always does quite a good job. |
As the son of 2 teachers, I can tell you Gove's education reforms were horrendous. He is disliked by almost every teacher in the country. |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 10:02 - Feb 5 with 3627 views | imsureazzure |
I have never been against individuals who follow religion, they are misguided and some what indoctrinated but if it gets them through life and gives them comfort what is it to do with me.
The organisations themselves are a completely different kettle of custard, corrupt controlling, bodies that pray on the weakest countries and peoples in the world | | | |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 10:34 - Feb 5 with 3609 views | monytowbray |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 17:00 - Feb 4 by m14_blue |
But the whole point of this thread was about someone saying how likeable he is. Surely disagreeing with this, and saying why, is the very definition of debate?
This place wouldn't last long if everyone just sat around saying "I respect your opinion" to each other.
Agree that often the left does try to shout down rather than properly debate though, not necessarily on TWTD but certainly in the real world. |
I don’t pander to or respect sexist or homophobic opinions, regardless of how “nice” the person comes across. What would we be opening debate up around in these areas? Should I be considering the concepts that raped women and gay people are less worthy of rights than others? |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg on 10:35 - Feb 5 with 3606 views | monytowbray |
ABORTIONS FOR SOME, MINITURE AMERICAN FLAGS FOR OTHERS. | |
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