| Our lack of testing laid bare 14:01 - Apr 18 with 2020 views | ElderGrizzly |
This Government is criminally incompetent |  | | |  |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:05 - Apr 18 with 1617 views | monytowbray |
Bloody hell even Peston the Sound Bite Relayer is turning. |  |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:06 - Apr 18 with 1614 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Ah but our death rate isn't … oh …
well no one said to test … oh, except WHO.
… but the tests might not have been accurate. That's the one. No test is better than a bad test just as no deal is better than a bad deal. Now let's forget it all and just get Brexit done. Every country has suffered, let's not make the Government's handling of it all political now. |  |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:06 - Apr 18 with 1615 views | pointofblue |
Why is France so low as well? I presume the delay due to the herd immunity belief meant we didn’t order the number of tests we should have done though now the issue seems to be getting people to the test sites. |  |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:09 - Apr 18 with 1589 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:06 - Apr 18 by pointofblue |
Why is France so low as well? I presume the delay due to the herd immunity belief meant we didn’t order the number of tests we should have done though now the issue seems to be getting people to the test sites. |
Is that what the issue is?
Who is being offered the tests? How far do they need to travel to get them? What about people with symptoms self-isolating at home?
It is almost as if these questions have not been clearly answered in order to allow the excuse that people didn't bother. | |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:15 - Apr 18 with 1558 views | LankHenners |
Blatant, unwelcome, unpatriotic political point scoring. Gulag time for Peston. |  |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:15 - Apr 18 with 1561 views | pointofblue |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:09 - Apr 18 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Is that what the issue is?
Who is being offered the tests? How far do they need to travel to get them? What about people with symptoms self-isolating at home?
It is almost as if these questions have not been clearly answered in order to allow the excuse that people didn't bother. |
They’re exactly the question being asked now – WHY aren’t people being tested rather than WHERE are the testing kits. Again, it can hardly be said the government is coming out of this well. | |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:18 - Apr 18 with 1542 views | WD19 |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:05 - Apr 18 by monytowbray |
Bloody hell even Peston the Sound Bite Relayer is turning. |
The only sound bites Peston relays are the ones he wrote for himself the day before. |  | | |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:32 - Apr 18 with 1496 views | pointofblue |
This might be the wrong place to ask but what’s the difference between tests and People tested? As of 9am today the U.K. has carried out 460,437 tests but only 357,023 people have been tested. Answering my own question, I assume that means a few people are being tested more than once? | |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:33 - Apr 18 with 1499 views | ElephantintheRoom |
There is no point in testing for testing's sake. If you take a test and are virus clear... you may have got it by the time you get the results in a country where no effective isolation is being carried out.
The holy grail at the moment is to test those in hospital who may or may not have it... fair enough... but patients will be treated regardless.... and i doubt sneezy, coughing NHS workers will rush back to work anyway.
Much more important is to test vulnerable people and their carers where they might actually catch it.... in the community, care homes, cared for in their own homes etc.alas we dont have the testing capacity to do this, shameful though that is.
So our government for better or for worse has allowed the virus to get into the country unchecked and is waiting whilst it spreads around the community..... it might even be a good strategy. But hey nobody cares because the stay at home mantra is working - and those who are being invited to catch the virus are even clappingdutifully on thursday nights. | |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:43 - Apr 18 with 1480 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:32 - Apr 18 by pointofblue |
This might be the wrong place to ask but what’s the difference between tests and People tested? As of 9am today the U.K. has carried out 460,437 tests but only 357,023 people have been tested. Answering my own question, I assume that means a few people are being tested more than once? |
Earlier this year my mother was admitted into Addenbrookes on two occasions, each time she was tested. Her death early March was not coronavirus related although she did have underlying medical conditions they frequently refer to. |  |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:43 - Apr 18 with 1472 views | longtimefan |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:32 - Apr 18 by pointofblue |
This might be the wrong place to ask but what’s the difference between tests and People tested? As of 9am today the U.K. has carried out 460,437 tests but only 357,023 people have been tested. Answering my own question, I assume that means a few people are being tested more than once? |
It does indeed. Explicitly mentioned on the following link:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public | | | |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:45 - Apr 18 with 1462 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:43 - Apr 18 by Pinewoodblue |
Earlier this year my mother was admitted into Addenbrookes on two occasions, each time she was tested. Her death early March was not coronavirus related although she did have underlying medical conditions they frequently refer to. |
Sorry to hear that Pinewood. | |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:51 - Apr 18 with 1440 views | longtimefan |
Indeed. Mind you a significant number of those ranked above us have a vastly smaller number of tests i.e. Falkland Islands with 310. Even Germany are only ranked 22 by that measure. | | | |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:54 - Apr 18 with 1423 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
How come the Faroe Isles (a British dependency) is top of the list?
Also, a significant number do not appear to have released figures on tests as they have no data in that column (including China so it can't simply be those that have not tested at all).
EDIT: Also, why is our total recovered N/A. Shouldn't it simply be the difference between total cases and the sum of active cases and deceased? [Post edited 18 Apr 2020 14:58]
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:56 - Apr 18 with 1411 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:54 - Apr 18 by Nthsuffolkblue |
How come the Faroe Isles (a British dependency) is top of the list?
Also, a significant number do not appear to have released figures on tests as they have no data in that column (including China so it can't simply be those that have not tested at all).
EDIT: Also, why is our total recovered N/A. Shouldn't it simply be the difference between total cases and the sum of active cases and deceased? [Post edited 18 Apr 2020 14:58]
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What I find damning is that only one Country in the whole world doesn’t bother to record the number of recoveries. No prizes for guessing which country that is. | |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:00 - Apr 18 with 1369 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:56 - Apr 18 by Pinewoodblue |
What I find damning is that only one Country in the whole world doesn’t bother to record the number of recoveries. No prizes for guessing which country that is. |
I think there is a lot of variability in the data depending on where it has come from. There are a number of active cases and a number for total cases and deaths. How does that not lead to a total for recovered? At what point does someone decide that they are recovered too? Some appear to have relapses. | |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:04 - Apr 18 with 1359 views | Trequartista |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:56 - Apr 18 by Pinewoodblue |
What I find damning is that only one Country in the whole world doesn’t bother to record the number of recoveries. No prizes for guessing which country that is. |
Netherlands, Sweden, Ireland don't |  |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:05 - Apr 18 with 1358 views | Trequartista |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 14:54 - Apr 18 by Nthsuffolkblue |
How come the Faroe Isles (a British dependency) is top of the list?
Also, a significant number do not appear to have released figures on tests as they have no data in that column (including China so it can't simply be those that have not tested at all).
EDIT: Also, why is our total recovered N/A. Shouldn't it simply be the difference between total cases and the sum of active cases and deceased? [Post edited 18 Apr 2020 14:58]
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Faroe Islands is not British. | |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:09 - Apr 18 with 1354 views | factual_blue |
Work done by a relative of Keno's? |  |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:09 - Apr 18 with 1349 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:05 - Apr 18 by Trequartista |
Faroe Islands is not British. |
Is it Argentine now?
EDIT: My mistake, that's the Falklands isn't it? Doh!
Second EDIT: which is still 3rd in the list. Why did they get 319 tests? [Post edited 18 Apr 2020 15:13]
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:18 - Apr 18 with 1318 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Interestingly when you rank it that way and then scan down the deaths per 1M, the figures appear to be fairly random. They certainly don't seem to show the upward trend that the mantra of test, test, test WHO are suggesting makes a significant difference at this stage. | |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:25 - Apr 18 with 1300 views | ronnyd |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:09 - Apr 18 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Is it Argentine now?
EDIT: My mistake, that's the Falklands isn't it? Doh!
Second EDIT: which is still 3rd in the list. Why did they get 319 tests? [Post edited 18 Apr 2020 15:13]
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Danish. | | | |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:32 - Apr 18 with 1283 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:25 - Apr 18 by ronnyd |
Danish. |
Yes, my edits show my flawed working. | |
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| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:48 - Apr 18 with 1244 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Our lack of testing laid bare on 15:18 - Apr 18 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Interestingly when you rank it that way and then scan down the deaths per 1M, the figures appear to be fairly random. They certainly don't seem to show the upward trend that the mantra of test, test, test WHO are suggesting makes a significant difference at this stage. |
Some comfort for everyone, unless you are Belgian. | |
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