| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes 22:25 - Dec 12 with 1241 views | homer_123 |
In equality, fairness, respect and personal responsibility.
Where we look out for one another, where we help and support those in need, regardless of whether that need is short or long term. Where we welcome, appreciate and endorse differing views, opinions and thinking. Where we look after those that have spent their lives contributing and now need care, support and love in their twilight years. Where we value education and educators, where people can learn regardless of their socioeconomic background. Where we have a properly funded NHS, free at the point of use and is ring fenced from politicians and political interference. Where businesses grow and create wealth, opportunities and research but where those businesses actively contribute to society and their local economy. Where social mobility moves forward. Where housing is affordable. Where we look after and care for our environment. Where there is no difference between the have or have nots.
Too much to ask? |  |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:26 - Dec 12 with 980 views | PJH |
Where are you moving them to? |  | | |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:33 - Dec 12 with 938 views | WeWereZombies |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:26 - Dec 12 by PJH |
Where are you moving them to? |
If you do not want to leave the United Kingdom may I suggest Scotland. And Fort William needs a decent football team if we can persuade the Town to relocate... |  |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:35 - Dec 12 with 919 views | sparks |
Seemingly- yes.
And Corbyn and his momentum zealots shoulder much of the blame if so. |  |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:36 - Dec 12 with 903 views | jimmyvet |
Oh stop bleating this hysterical trash .... |  | | |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:37 - Dec 12 with 902 views | sparks |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:36 - Dec 12 by jimmyvet |
Oh stop bleating this hysterical trash .... |
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| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:47 - Dec 12 with 855 views | jimmyvet |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:37 - Dec 12 by sparks |
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The OP and others being so hysterical it’s painful and very undignified....apologies if you thought I meant yourself absolutely not. | | | |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:50 - Dec 12 with 836 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:35 - Dec 12 by sparks |
Seemingly- yes.
And Corbyn and his momentum zealots shoulder much of the blame if so. |
I thought Labour ran a pretty decent campaign. They had a full manifesto, far more details on policy, more detailed coatings. They offered something radical, but not unduly so compared to other major European countries, and less risky that the Tory plan for Brexit. Corbyn carried himself well and they were the only main party with honest adverts. They’re not really my cup of tea, but they behaved in a manner most people say is lacking from politics.
The problem is more with the lies promoted by the Tories and their lobbyists, the distribution of those lies by a complicit partisan media, and people then believing those lies without critically examining any claims. |  |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:52 - Dec 12 with 820 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:50 - Dec 12 by Swansea_Blue |
I thought Labour ran a pretty decent campaign. They had a full manifesto, far more details on policy, more detailed coatings. They offered something radical, but not unduly so compared to other major European countries, and less risky that the Tory plan for Brexit. Corbyn carried himself well and they were the only main party with honest adverts. They’re not really my cup of tea, but they behaved in a manner most people say is lacking from politics.
The problem is more with the lies promoted by the Tories and their lobbyists, the distribution of those lies by a complicit partisan media, and people then believing those lies without critically examining any claims. |
Or maybe people just didn't like Labour's manifesto? So much nazel gazing | | | |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:53 - Dec 12 with 815 views | reusersfreekicks |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:50 - Dec 12 by Swansea_Blue |
I thought Labour ran a pretty decent campaign. They had a full manifesto, far more details on policy, more detailed coatings. They offered something radical, but not unduly so compared to other major European countries, and less risky that the Tory plan for Brexit. Corbyn carried himself well and they were the only main party with honest adverts. They’re not really my cup of tea, but they behaved in a manner most people say is lacking from politics.
The problem is more with the lies promoted by the Tories and their lobbyists, the distribution of those lies by a complicit partisan media, and people then believing those lies without critically examining any claims. |
Press in this country is a partisan disgrace |  | | |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:55 - Dec 12 with 802 views | BackToRussia |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:36 - Dec 12 by jimmyvet |
Oh stop bleating this hysterical trash .... |
The fact you think the OP is hysterical trash says a lot about you. |  |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:57 - Dec 12 with 787 views | BackToRussia |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:52 - Dec 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Or maybe people just didn't like Labour's manifesto? So much nazel gazing |
It's navel you utter pillock. | |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:57 - Dec 12 with 784 views | Leithblue |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:33 - Dec 12 by WeWereZombies |
If you do not want to leave the United Kingdom may I suggest Scotland. And Fort William needs a decent football team if we can persuade the Town to relocate... |
you in Fort William WeWereZombies? I grew up near there, little village called Corpach | | | |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:09 - Dec 12 with 758 views | sparks |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:47 - Dec 12 by jimmyvet |
The OP and others being so hysterical it’s painful and very undignified....apologies if you thought I meant yourself absolutely not. |
i agree with them.
If this once decent nation succumbs to the Trumpesque cult of dishonesty, bluster and hatred, I utterly despair. | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:10 - Dec 12 with 750 views | sparks |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:09 - Dec 12 by sparks |
i agree with them.
If this once decent nation succumbs to the Trumpesque cult of dishonesty, bluster and hatred, I utterly despair. |
Incidentally, anyone idiot claiming this is about the press and smear campaigns, is simply blocking out (for their own reasons) the fundamental problems with corbyn and his hard left ideology. | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:10 - Dec 12 with 750 views | itfcjoe |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:09 - Dec 12 by sparks |
i agree with them.
If this once decent nation succumbs to the Trumpesque cult of dishonesty, bluster and hatred, I utterly despair. |
It already has. Take a look around.
"Get Brexit Done" |  |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:11 - Dec 12 with 741 views | PJH |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:57 - Dec 12 by Leithblue |
you in Fort William WeWereZombies? I grew up near there, little village called Corpach |
The man is Lord of Skye.
Corpach, home of Treasures Of The Earth. | | | |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:13 - Dec 12 with 728 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:52 - Dec 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Or maybe people just didn't like Labour's manifesto? So much nazel gazing |
Maybe not, but did they not like the actual manifesto or did they not like the Tory interpretation of it?
‘Get Brexit Done’ seems to have gained more traction than any sensible analysis of Labour’s manifesto. | |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:15 - Dec 12 with 719 views | WeWereZombies |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 22:57 - Dec 12 by Leithblue |
you in Fort William WeWereZombies? I grew up near there, little village called Corpach |
I'm on Skye but I drove through Corpach last month when after more than six years living here I finally took the Armadale to Mallaig ferry instead of the bridge and drove on through Glenfinnan to Fort William. Few industrial estates in Corpach now but maybe not as built up as Leith yet. | |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:16 - Dec 12 with 705 views | itfcjoe |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:10 - Dec 12 by sparks |
Incidentally, anyone idiot claiming this is about the press and smear campaigns, is simply blocking out (for their own reasons) the fundamental problems with corbyn and his hard left ideology. |
Labour are losing C, D and E class voters hand over fist - their policies would have actually helped these people.
But all these people are interested in is Brexit, and that Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser who will bankrupt the country.
That's press and media pushing that. | |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:18 - Dec 12 with 686 views | BackToRussia |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:16 - Dec 12 by itfcjoe |
Labour are losing C, D and E class voters hand over fist - their policies would have actually helped these people.
But all these people are interested in is Brexit, and that Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser who will bankrupt the country.
That's press and media pushing that. |
Spot on Joe.
If people want to deny the significance of Corbyn I'd suggest anyone denying the significance of the media and the corporate interests behind them in turn has their own reasons for doing so. As always the truth is somewhere in the middle. | |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:19 - Dec 12 with 678 views | sparks |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:16 - Dec 12 by itfcjoe |
Labour are losing C, D and E class voters hand over fist - their policies would have actually helped these people.
But all these people are interested in is Brexit, and that Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser who will bankrupt the country.
That's press and media pushing that. |
To an extent- though thelabour press do the opposite. And these people dont buy the Mail, they buy the Mirror.
Its a cheap excuse. Corbyn's agenda has been extreme and dogmatic- in a way which has never played well with the public. Maos red book ffs.
Any moderate labour candidate would have walked this,. | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:20 - Dec 12 with 676 views | Leithblue |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:15 - Dec 12 by WeWereZombies |
I'm on Skye but I drove through Corpach last month when after more than six years living here I finally took the Armadale to Mallaig ferry instead of the bridge and drove on through Glenfinnan to Fort William. Few industrial estates in Corpach now but maybe not as built up as Leith yet. |
used to be just a paper mill, where my Dad worked - good to hear there is some sort of employment outside of tourism back there now. Loved that drive through Glenfinnan | | | |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:22 - Dec 12 with 668 views | BryanPlug |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:25 - Dec 12 with 656 views | itfcjoe |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:19 - Dec 12 by sparks |
To an extent- though thelabour press do the opposite. And these people dont buy the Mail, they buy the Mirror.
Its a cheap excuse. Corbyn's agenda has been extreme and dogmatic- in a way which has never played well with the public. Maos red book ffs.
Any moderate labour candidate would have walked this,. |
Do you think these people screaming Get Brexit Done even know who Mao is?
They've lost the working class, the middle classes held their nose and voted as thought it was best way to get to remain.
All I hear from those I know who I'd describe as Brexiteers is how Corbyn is a terrorist - even my Mum who is Conservative was saying how people don't like him because he supports ISIS. | |
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| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:27 - Dec 12 with 645 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I want my children to grow up in a Country that believes on 23:09 - Dec 12 by sparks |
i agree with them.
If this once decent nation succumbs to the Trumpesque cult of dishonesty, bluster and hatred, I utterly despair. |
^This
(Although it was the lies and smear that did for Hilary too; she didn’t have the same baggage as Corbyn, but that was no defence. But that’s a separate argument. [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 23:28]
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