| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer 11:50 - Aug 12 with 3428 views | thebooks |
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2022/aug/12/labour-pledges-to-scrap-outrageous
Pathetic. It'll save those on energy meters about £100/year, and that's it.
Somehow manages to make the situation even worse as the energy companies will be reimbursed for any losses they suffer.
The Lib Dems are effortlessly outflanking Lab by saying the price increases should just be scrapped. |  | | |  |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 11:53 - Aug 12 with 1983 views | StokieBlue |
The only thing Labour should be pushing on this subject is the nationalisation of the energy companies, much like the French have done with EDF.
There is simply no excuse for profiteering in the current circumstances, the companies didn't even keep their profits flat (which they could have done by reducing prices) but instead took advantage of the situation to drastically increase their profits.
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:00 - Aug 12 with 1921 views | cressi |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 11:53 - Aug 12 by StokieBlue |
The only thing Labour should be pushing on this subject is the nationalisation of the energy companies, much like the French have done with EDF.
There is simply no excuse for profiteering in the current circumstances, the companies didn't even keep their profits flat (which they could have done by reducing prices) but instead took advantage of the situation to drastically increase their profits.
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Always voted Labour
But his a wet lettuce
Bloo*y hopeless |  | | |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:08 - Aug 12 with 1871 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 11:53 - Aug 12 by StokieBlue |
The only thing Labour should be pushing on this subject is the nationalisation of the energy companies, much like the French have done with EDF.
There is simply no excuse for profiteering in the current circumstances, the companies didn't even keep their profits flat (which they could have done by reducing prices) but instead took advantage of the situation to drastically increase their profits.
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Not sure the figures quoted in the article are accurate. It suggests prepayment cap is 2% higher than those who pay by direct debit then further down suggests the potential savings are, over the next two quarters £84 & £100. Presumably worked in the back of a fag packet.
To sugges that government would then refund the energy companies is stupid. |  |
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:09 - Aug 12 with 1871 views | ElderGrizzly |
I’m a Lib Dem, but Labour here are rightly addressing just one issue on pre-payment meters.
It doesn’t mean this is their only plan, just their plan on one historically unfair issue. |  | | |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:14 - Aug 12 with 1841 views | peterleeblue |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:00 - Aug 12 by cressi |
Always voted Labour
But his a wet lettuce
Bloo*y hopeless |
I had high hopes for KS and I am now having serious doubts.
To be fair he saw Johnson of in the end. But he needs to up his game now.
Truss will be there for the taking but it may well take a change of Labour leader to make it happen. |  | | |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:15 - Aug 12 with 1824 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
“The announcement is the first strand of what the party has promised will be a “fuller package” on the energy crisis that Reeves has been working on with Keir Starmer and that will be rolled out in the coming days.” | | | |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:15 - Aug 12 with 1823 views | SaleAway |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:09 - Aug 12 by ElderGrizzly |
I’m a Lib Dem, but Labour here are rightly addressing just one issue on pre-payment meters.
It doesn’t mean this is their only plan, just their plan on one historically unfair issue. |
The announcement is the first strand of what the party has promised will be a “fuller package” on the energy crisis that Reeves has been working on with Keir Starmer and that will be rolled out in the coming days. | |
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:23 - Aug 12 with 1795 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 11:53 - Aug 12 by StokieBlue |
The only thing Labour should be pushing on this subject is the nationalisation of the energy companies, much like the French have done with EDF.
There is simply no excuse for profiteering in the current circumstances, the companies didn't even keep their profits flat (which they could have done by reducing prices) but instead took advantage of the situation to drastically increase their profits.
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The French also had the foresight to produce 70pc of their energy from Nuclear which has also left them less exposed to the volatile wholesale gas price for power generation.
Energy is the primary (not only) driver or inflation at the moment, and France is running at a much lower (sub 6pc) rate than the UK and most of continental Europe. | | | |
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:32 - Aug 12 with 1758 views | GlasgowBlue |
The UK should have followed Sturgeon's lead to tackle the energy crisis. I'm looking forward to my cheap energy bills this winter. Or maybe not.
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:36 - Aug 12 with 1729 views | NthQldITFC |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:23 - Aug 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
The French also had the foresight to produce 70pc of their energy from Nuclear which has also left them less exposed to the volatile wholesale gas price for power generation.
Energy is the primary (not only) driver or inflation at the moment, and France is running at a much lower (sub 6pc) rate than the UK and most of continental Europe. |
...and is a far better option environmentally. |  |
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:46 - Aug 12 with 1678 views | StokieBlue |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:36 - Aug 12 by NthQldITFC |
...and is a far better option environmentally. |
We should be investing heavily in offshore wind and SMRs such as these for baseline power:
https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#/
Rolls Royce will even build them in the UK and get 80% of the supply chain from UK companies.
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:50 - Aug 12 with 1660 views | giant_stow |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:36 - Aug 12 by NthQldITFC |
...and is a far better option environmentally. |
As long as no one starts a war near them. |  |
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:51 - Aug 12 with 1654 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:15 - Aug 12 by SaleAway |
The announcement is the first strand of what the party has promised will be a “fuller package” on the energy crisis that Reeves has been working on with Keir Starmer and that will be rolled out in the coming days. |
Indeed. He literally said it was just a part
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:57 - Aug 12 with 1632 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:15 - Aug 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“The announcement is the first strand of what the party has promised will be a “fuller package” on the energy crisis that Reeves has been working on with Keir Starmer and that will be rolled out in the coming days.” |
Well quite, but boo Starmer still etc |  |
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 13:01 - Aug 12 with 1603 views | Darth_Koont |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:51 - Aug 12 by ElderGrizzly |
Indeed. He literally said it was just a part
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So he’s going to deliver it bit by bit?
The opening policy while giving some small relief doesn’t look anything like on the right scale to match the problem for ordinary people.
Feels like a typical token effort pretending to be a solution. And if that doesn’t do it, they’ll reluctantly wheel out something else equally uninspiring and lacking in genuine substance or value. |  |
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 13:07 - Aug 12 with 1571 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 13:01 - Aug 12 by Darth_Koont |
So he’s going to deliver it bit by bit?
The opening policy while giving some small relief doesn’t look anything like on the right scale to match the problem for ordinary people.
Feels like a typical token effort pretending to be a solution. And if that doesn’t do it, they’ll reluctantly wheel out something else equally uninspiring and lacking in genuine substance or value. |
Literally that’s how you normally publish policy in Government.
Labour have also met with energy companies apparently and the main part of the plan will be out in the next 7-10 days.
Crucially of course, Labour have no way of changing anything because someone’s belligerence and incompetence let Johnson win a huge majority a few years ago… | | | |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 13:29 - Aug 12 with 1511 views | Darth_Koont |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 13:07 - Aug 12 by ElderGrizzly |
Literally that’s how you normally publish policy in Government.
Labour have also met with energy companies apparently and the main part of the plan will be out in the next 7-10 days.
Crucially of course, Labour have no way of changing anything because someone’s belligerence and incompetence let Johnson win a huge majority a few years ago… |
Indeed.
But the Labour right/People’s Vote lot and their equally self-satisfied pundits in the media are still around. Self-serving tosspots.
They’ll lap up these Starmer small potatoes because they actively like politics that’s not going to change anything materially for anyone. | |
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 13:39 - Aug 12 with 1480 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 13:07 - Aug 12 by ElderGrizzly |
Literally that’s how you normally publish policy in Government.
Labour have also met with energy companies apparently and the main part of the plan will be out in the next 7-10 days.
Crucially of course, Labour have no way of changing anything because someone’s belligerence and incompetence let Johnson win a huge majority a few years ago… |
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 13:58 - Aug 12 with 1441 views | thebooks |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:15 - Aug 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“The announcement is the first strand of what the party has promised will be a “fuller package” on the energy crisis that Reeves has been working on with Keir Starmer and that will be rolled out in the coming days.” |
I'd be very happy to proven wrong, but it doesn't make any sense not to make a splash with your big policy first.
I suspect it'll be a series of policies that do tiny things around the edges.
Completely inadequate response. | | | |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 14:10 - Aug 12 with 1416 views | BlueRaider |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:15 - Aug 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“The announcement is the first strand of what the party has promised will be a “fuller package” on the energy crisis that Reeves has been working on with Keir Starmer and that will be rolled out in the coming days.” |
Surely you would go with the most significant thing first ?!? | |
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 14:13 - Aug 12 with 1401 views | itfc_bucks |
Would it be helpful to remind you (again) that Labour aren't in power? | | | |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 14:30 - Aug 12 with 1380 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 13:58 - Aug 12 by thebooks |
I'd be very happy to proven wrong, but it doesn't make any sense not to make a splash with your big policy first.
I suspect it'll be a series of policies that do tiny things around the edges.
Completely inadequate response. |
He could promise everyone free energy for life and a baby unicorn, but it’s irrelevant if they aren’t in power. | | | |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 14:34 - Aug 12 with 1355 views | monytowbray |
But Corbyn. |  |
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 14:38 - Aug 12 with 1349 views | tractordownsouth |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 11:53 - Aug 12 by StokieBlue |
The only thing Labour should be pushing on this subject is the nationalisation of the energy companies, much like the French have done with EDF.
There is simply no excuse for profiteering in the current circumstances, the companies didn't even keep their profits flat (which they could have done by reducing prices) but instead took advantage of the situation to drastically increase their profits.
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This announcement is supposedly the first of many policies so it won't be just this.
However, I agree with you regarding nationalisation. Before I wasn't too fussed either way because it was a way down the list of things a Labour government would need to fix in office, but the current ownership model is in a complete crisis and people will die if nothing is done about it. At the very least there should be an even bigger windfall tax than before, or a cap set on profits and the companies that can't cope can be nationalised.
Liz Truss was playing up to the Tory membership yesterday saying a windfall tax is "anti-business." I can't think of anything more anti-business than allowing energy companies to swallow up every penny of disposable income, which will inevitably end in thousands of firms in other sectors going to the wall. |  |
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| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 14:39 - Aug 12 with 1345 views | monytowbray |
| Typically feeble energy bill response from Starmer on 12:50 - Aug 12 by giant_stow |
As long as no one starts a war near them. |
Or no one gives complete control to venture capitalists like the existing energy corps who prioritise profit over safety.
Or no natural disasters happen near them at a time when we'll be seeing more natural disasters from climate change.
The reason nuclear power never really took off is purely safety, not to mention when it does go wrong the consequences are huge. It's quicker to run across speeding traffic on a busy M25 than it is to locate/walk over a footbridge, but chances are you'll take the footbridge. | |
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