| Is it right, right? 15:10 - Aug 11 with 9259 views | BrixtonBlue |
I voted for Chuka Umunna in the last General Election as a Labour candidate. Firstly, he left to be part of Change UK, now he's left that to join the Liberal Democrats, a party he described as "enabling Tory austerity" not so long ago.
I've also had a letter from him (calling me "Dear Friend") slating Corbyn and asking me to join him in the Lib Dems. The bloody cheek of it!
Jumping from party to party like Goldilocks is bad enough, but what irks me more is that Streatham (and parts of Balham, Brixton, Clapham and Tulse Hill) are now Liberal Democrat when they were previously staunch Labour.
Labour won in these areas fair and square, and I voted for them, but we are now Lib Dem just because Chuka decided to jump ship a couple of times. How is this right? I don't want a Lim Dem MOP, didn't vote for them, and they didn't win here. Yet now we have them.
Am I missing something? How is this allowed? |  |
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| Is it right, right? on 15:12 - Aug 11 with 3523 views | J2BLUE |
Chuka is someone who clearly believes his own hype and thinks he's much more important than he is judging by his interviews. If it was any other MP he wasn't aligned with he would demanding an election. |  |
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| Is it right, right? on 15:31 - Aug 11 with 3462 views | GeoffSentence |
Is it because in our electoral system you actually elect a candidate not a party? Maybe that's how it is allowed.
Under these circumstances though, the decent thing would be to stand down for a by-election. |  |
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| Is it right, right? on 15:39 - Aug 11 with 3433 views | BlueBoots |
"Am I missing something? How is this allowed?"
For the same reason that 125,000 people got to choose between 2 wholly unsuitable candidates to be our current prime minister...
Our entire electoral system is farked and not fit for purpose. |  |
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| Is it right, right? on 15:55 - Aug 11 with 3373 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
If you didn’t want a snivelling opportunistic chancer as your MP, then you probably shouldn’t have voted for Chuka Umunna |  |
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| Is it right, right? on 15:58 - Aug 11 with 3364 views | footers |
| Is it right, right? on 15:55 - Aug 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
If you didn’t want a snivelling opportunistic chancer as your MP, then you probably shouldn’t have voted for Chuka Umunna |
Indeed. The bloke's a self-serving toss arse. |  |
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| Is it right, right? on 15:59 - Aug 11 with 3360 views | Darth_Koont |
Change are/were as much a non-alternative alternative as UKIP/The Brexit Party. Similarly populated by people looking out for their own careers and media profiles.
But, as pointed out, we don't actually elect parties we elect candidates as MPs. Again causing problems for real representation of people's interests locally and nationally. |  |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:20 - Aug 11 with 3303 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Is it right, right? on 15:55 - Aug 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
If you didn’t want a snivelling opportunistic chancer as your MP, then you probably shouldn’t have voted for Chuka Umunna |
If I were a mind reader I wouldn't have bothered. | |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:21 - Aug 11 with 3294 views | m14_blue |
| Is it right, right? on 15:59 - Aug 11 by Darth_Koont |
Change are/were as much a non-alternative alternative as UKIP/The Brexit Party. Similarly populated by people looking out for their own careers and media profiles.
But, as pointed out, we don't actually elect parties we elect candidates as MPs. Again causing problems for real representation of people's interests locally and nationally. |
How were the change uk people looking out for their own careers?
I’d say it was the complete opposite, by abandoning the old tribal parties they have almost certainly sacrificed their careers in favour of their principles. I understand that you fundamentally disagree with those principles, but to call them opportunistic careerists is a lazy soundbite perpetuated by the bipartisan press at those who dare to stand up to red or blue. |  | | |
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| Is it right, right? (n/t) on 16:24 - Aug 11 with 3286 views | BlueBadger |
| Is it right, right? on 15:55 - Aug 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
If you didn’t want a snivelling opportunistic chancer as your MP, then you probably shouldn’t have voted for Chuka Umunna |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:27 - Aug 11 with 3264 views | BlueBadger |
| Is it right, right? on 15:12 - Aug 11 by J2BLUE |
Chuka is someone who clearly believes his own hype and thinks he's much more important than he is judging by his interviews. If it was any other MP he wasn't aligned with he would demanding an election. |
Can't you just do what you're doing with Boris and give him a chance? | |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:31 - Aug 11 with 3249 views | Darth_Koont |
| Is it right, right? on 16:21 - Aug 11 by m14_blue |
How were the change uk people looking out for their own careers?
I’d say it was the complete opposite, by abandoning the old tribal parties they have almost certainly sacrificed their careers in favour of their principles. I understand that you fundamentally disagree with those principles, but to call them opportunistic careerists is a lazy soundbite perpetuated by the bipartisan press at those who dare to stand up to red or blue. |
Because most of them were careerists beforehand - that's why the Labour lot were mostly on the verge of being deselected by the CLPs they were meant to represent.
They're getting their democratic desserts now which is good. | |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:32 - Aug 11 with 3244 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Is it right, right? on 16:21 - Aug 11 by m14_blue |
How were the change uk people looking out for their own careers?
I’d say it was the complete opposite, by abandoning the old tribal parties they have almost certainly sacrificed their careers in favour of their principles. I understand that you fundamentally disagree with those principles, but to call them opportunistic careerists is a lazy soundbite perpetuated by the bipartisan press at those who dare to stand up to red or blue. |
I think this is a fair point generally, but in Umunna’s case given the speed at which he abandoned the cause following their European election failure it does come across as though he was trying to further his career rather than genuinely trying to change the usual apple cart | |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:36 - Aug 11 with 3231 views | m14_blue |
| Is it right, right? on 16:31 - Aug 11 by Darth_Koont |
Because most of them were careerists beforehand - that's why the Labour lot were mostly on the verge of being deselected by the CLPs they were meant to represent.
They're getting their democratic desserts now which is good. |
That sounds exactly like the language the more rabid brexit people use about Dominic Grieve et al.
I couldn’t disagree more. | | | |
| Is it right, right? on 16:37 - Aug 11 with 3228 views | m14_blue |
| Is it right, right? on 16:32 - Aug 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I think this is a fair point generally, but in Umunna’s case given the speed at which he abandoned the cause following their European election failure it does come across as though he was trying to further his career rather than genuinely trying to change the usual apple cart |
Fair point about Chukka, he may well care more about his profile than his political career anyway. | | | |
| Is it right, right? on 16:37 - Aug 11 with 3229 views | J2BLUE |
| Is it right, right? on 16:27 - Aug 11 by BlueBadger |
Can't you just do what you're doing with Boris and give him a chance? |
That would be clever if it actually worked.
Stick to Daily Mash level 'humour', it's your level | |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:41 - Aug 11 with 3211 views | Darth_Koont |
| Is it right, right? on 16:36 - Aug 11 by m14_blue |
That sounds exactly like the language the more rabid brexit people use about Dominic Grieve et al.
I couldn’t disagree more. |
Well, they were in the Labour Party sabotaging a return to actual principles and policies that are desperately needed for the greater good.
They clearly weren't concerned in offering opposition or a genuine alternative at the time so it's good for them to leave and it's also good for people to show that they just don't see them as any kind of alternative. | |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:44 - Aug 11 with 3197 views | m14_blue |
| Is it right, right? on 16:41 - Aug 11 by Darth_Koont |
Well, they were in the Labour Party sabotaging a return to actual principles and policies that are desperately needed for the greater good.
They clearly weren't concerned in offering opposition or a genuine alternative at the time so it's good for them to leave and it's also good for people to show that they just don't see them as any kind of alternative. |
Centrist people and politicians can have principles too, they’re just different to yours.
If Labour want to be in power again then they need to keep the Centre left on side, not alienate them and/or force them out of the party. | | | |
| Is it right, right? on 16:49 - Aug 11 with 3181 views | IpswichKnight |
Simple get 10% of the electorate in Streatham to sign a recall petition and he will then have to fight a by-election. | | | |
| Is it right, right? on 16:52 - Aug 11 with 3160 views | The_Last_Baron |
How about taking your political whinging to a left wing political messaging board, such as the canary. No ones here cares . London Labour are a disaster, take a walk from Wandsworth into Lambeth and you see the immediate downgrade.
Vote Boris. |  |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:54 - Aug 11 with 3145 views | Darth_Koont |
| Is it right, right? on 16:44 - Aug 11 by m14_blue |
Centrist people and politicians can have principles too, they’re just different to yours.
If Labour want to be in power again then they need to keep the Centre left on side, not alienate them and/or force them out of the party. |
Hmmm. That these people are centre left is highly debatable.
Getting rid of careerist, party politicians is what's needed. Especially ones who don't actually represent an alternative to the status quo.
There is zero point having Labour as a centre party. It just pauses our inevitable slide to the right and towards the crazier nut jobs that we've got in power now. | |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:54 - Aug 11 with 3146 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Is it right, right? on 15:39 - Aug 11 by BlueBoots |
"Am I missing something? How is this allowed?"
For the same reason that 125,000 people got to choose between 2 wholly unsuitable candidates to be our current prime minister...
Our entire electoral system is farked and not fit for purpose. |
Boris is suitable for the current predicament and will win a general election, god willing.
The evening we leave the EU I intend to get drunk and dance the night away. What will you be doing? | |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:54 - Aug 11 with 3135 views | BlueBadger |
| Is it right, right? on 16:37 - Aug 11 by J2BLUE |
That would be clever if it actually worked.
Stick to Daily Mash level 'humour', it's your level |
What's the difference between giving one self-serving chancer a chance and not another? | |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:55 - Aug 11 with 3138 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Is it right, right? on 16:52 - Aug 11 by The_Last_Baron |
How about taking your political whinging to a left wing political messaging board, such as the canary. No ones here cares . London Labour are a disaster, take a walk from Wandsworth into Lambeth and you see the immediate downgrade.
Vote Boris. |
393 views and 19 replies (including one from you) but "no one here cares."
Ok. | |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:56 - Aug 11 with 3129 views | footers |
| Is it right, right? on 16:37 - Aug 11 by J2BLUE |
That would be clever if it actually worked.
Stick to Daily Mash level 'humour', it's your level |
He should have known not to mix it with such an intellectual heavyweight, eh, J2? | |
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| Is it right, right? on 16:56 - Aug 11 with 3126 views | BlueBadger |
| Is it right, right? on 15:55 - Aug 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
If you didn’t want a snivelling opportunistic chancer as your MP, then you probably shouldn’t have voted for Chuka Umunna |
Ironically enough, Chukka is, in his anti-Brexitism, standing up for Dolly's interests a lot more than the Dear Leader Who Can Do Wrong is. | |
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