| Drug buyers, you must be very proud 14:26 - Jan 9 with 19474 views | chicoazul |
It looks like you may have another young man's life on your hands.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/09/murder-leyton-east-london-boy-14
"In Waltham Forest a council-commissioned report, in June, which looked at youth violence and gangs,found poverty and the drugs trade were key factors. It found that younger children were being recruited as drug runners, and some aged 12-17 were said to be increasingly involved in serious violence, both as victims and perpetrators.
The gangs are driven increasingly by profits from the illegal drugs market, rather than post code rivalries and protecting territory, the study by academics at London South Bank University found." |  |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 14:28 - Jan 9 with 5824 views | J2BLUE |
As long as they aren't having a £1 accumulator bet each week there's no problem here. |  |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 14:50 - Jan 9 with 5749 views | WarkTheWarkITFC |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 14:28 - Jan 9 by J2BLUE |
As long as they aren't having a £1 accumulator bet each week there's no problem here. |
I was genuinely shocked upon joining her at the blasé and almost boasting nature of some drug users who seem to think it's clever and impressive to break the law and use illegal recreational drugs, oblivious to their contribution in not only an illegal activity but part of a really sad wider problem.
Still as long as these people have a good time then screw everyone else, including the law hey! |  |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:03 - Jan 9 with 5692 views | Deano69 |
That's a really disturbing read. :( |  |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:10 - Jan 9 with 5657 views | Coastalblue |
It is very sad though I think there are wider issues to be addressed than people buying a bit of weed. Yes that may add to the problem but maybe we should be looking at why kids need to be doing this in the first place.
My partner works with children who are involved like this and some of the stories are very tough. |  |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:11 - Jan 9 with 5646 views | giant_stow |
round the corner from my Son's school. Seems to happen a lot in my area - loads of them young too. |  |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:13 - Jan 9 with 5626 views | Herbivore |
Why aren't you also calling out capitalists? |  |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:14 - Jan 9 with 5627 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Did gangs exist before drugs? Yes.
Would eradicating drugs also eradicate gangs? No.
Why? Gangs exist to make money illegally from whatever source possible. If the drugs market disappears they will remain and fight over the next profitable enterprise. [Post edited 9 Jan 2019 15:16]
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:14 - Jan 9 with 5621 views | jjblue84 |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:13 - Jan 9 by Herbivore |
Why aren't you also calling out capitalists? |
Because they’re the good guys, remember?? |  | | |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:16 - Jan 9 with 5612 views | SpruceMoose |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:14 - Jan 9 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Did gangs exist before drugs? Yes.
Would eradicating drugs also eradicate gangs? No.
Why? Gangs exist to make money illegally from whatever source possible. If the drugs market disappears they will remain and fight over the next profitable enterprise. [Post edited 9 Jan 2019 15:16]
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:36 - Jan 9 with 5522 views | giant_stow |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:16 - Jan 9 by SpruceMoose |
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Match Attax actually - aka kiddy crack - get with the programme. | |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:01 - Jan 9 with 5439 views | Radlett_blue |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:14 - Jan 9 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Did gangs exist before drugs? Yes.
Would eradicating drugs also eradicate gangs? No.
Why? Gangs exist to make money illegally from whatever source possible. If the drugs market disappears they will remain and fight over the next profitable enterprise. [Post edited 9 Jan 2019 15:16]
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Such as dodgy tobacco & booze.
But the growth in drug culture & the associated profits has surely promoted the increase in gang culture as it offers a way for a poor kid from a bad area to make a fast buck. |  |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:07 - Jan 9 with 5418 views | noggin |
People the world over have always, and always will, use mind altering substances. Blaming users for the violence and suffering is far too simplistic. |  |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:08 - Jan 9 with 5396 views | Darth_Koont |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 15:10 - Jan 9 by Coastalblue |
It is very sad though I think there are wider issues to be addressed than people buying a bit of weed. Yes that may add to the problem but maybe we should be looking at why kids need to be doing this in the first place.
My partner works with children who are involved like this and some of the stories are very tough. |
Indeed. It's sidestepping a whole host of social and economic issues (and our wider responsibilities as a society) to reduce this to a question of supply and demand in a market. |  |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:10 - Jan 9 with 5374 views | Herbivore |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:01 - Jan 9 by Radlett_blue |
Such as dodgy tobacco & booze.
But the growth in drug culture & the associated profits has surely promoted the increase in gang culture as it offers a way for a poor kid from a bad area to make a fast buck. |
Drug use in the UK has been in decline over the past 20 years. | |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:12 - Jan 9 with 5370 views | giant_stow |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:08 - Jan 9 by Darth_Koont |
Indeed. It's sidestepping a whole host of social and economic issues (and our wider responsibilities as a society) to reduce this to a question of supply and demand in a market. |
i think loads of cheekychico, but its just not worth debating with him on this. pointless. | |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:13 - Jan 9 with 5356 views | Herbivore |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:08 - Jan 9 by Darth_Koont |
Indeed. It's sidestepping a whole host of social and economic issues (and our wider responsibilities as a society) to reduce this to a question of supply and demand in a market. |
He's completely ignored that poverty is listed first as a cause of knife crime. Poverty is easily eradicated in a wealthy country like the UK if the political will exists. | |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:15 - Jan 9 with 5342 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:01 - Jan 9 by Radlett_blue |
Such as dodgy tobacco & booze.
But the growth in drug culture & the associated profits has surely promoted the increase in gang culture as it offers a way for a poor kid from a bad area to make a fast buck. |
So would the next best enterprise.
Poor kids have always been drawn to gangs, and always will be. | |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:17 - Jan 9 with 5352 views | TNBlue |
One less hoodrat to worry about. Why was a 14 year old running around on a moped? Illegal in itself. I have absolutely no doubt he was involved in a gang - quite possibly a drug courier yes. Most certainly targetted by another gang. I really don't mind them wiping each other out - it's when innocent bystanders get caught up in it, then it's regrettable.
But of course, it's not their fault is it? You sound like one of these lefty apologists. | | | |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:20 - Jan 9 with 5332 views | Coastalblue |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:17 - Jan 9 by TNBlue |
One less hoodrat to worry about. Why was a 14 year old running around on a moped? Illegal in itself. I have absolutely no doubt he was involved in a gang - quite possibly a drug courier yes. Most certainly targetted by another gang. I really don't mind them wiping each other out - it's when innocent bystanders get caught up in it, then it's regrettable.
But of course, it's not their fault is it? You sound like one of these lefty apologists. |
You think it's a good thing a 14 year old boy is stabbed to death in the street?
I cannot believe you seriously think that. | |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:20 - Jan 9 with 5318 views | Darth_Koont |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:01 - Jan 9 by Radlett_blue |
Such as dodgy tobacco & booze.
But the growth in drug culture & the associated profits has surely promoted the increase in gang culture as it offers a way for a poor kid from a bad area to make a fast buck. |
"offers a way for a poor kid from a bad area" is the key in that. It's not an issue for kids with a better base and more opportunities even when the potential money dwarfs all other job choices for 15-25 year olds.
What are we doing about poor kids and bad areas as a society? Gang culture is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the effects of ignoring or at best under-investing in these environments. | |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:23 - Jan 9 with 5311 views | giant_stow |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:17 - Jan 9 by TNBlue |
One less hoodrat to worry about. Why was a 14 year old running around on a moped? Illegal in itself. I have absolutely no doubt he was involved in a gang - quite possibly a drug courier yes. Most certainly targetted by another gang. I really don't mind them wiping each other out - it's when innocent bystanders get caught up in it, then it's regrettable.
But of course, it's not their fault is it? You sound like one of these lefty apologists. |
what bollox - you have no idea what this lad was or wasn't involved in. Mistaken identity happens all the time in these things. And try remembering you're talking about a child ffs. | |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:25 - Jan 9 with 5305 views | BlueBadger |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:17 - Jan 9 by TNBlue |
One less hoodrat to worry about. Why was a 14 year old running around on a moped? Illegal in itself. I have absolutely no doubt he was involved in a gang - quite possibly a drug courier yes. Most certainly targetted by another gang. I really don't mind them wiping each other out - it's when innocent bystanders get caught up in it, then it's regrettable.
But of course, it's not their fault is it? You sound like one of these lefty apologists. |
You stay classy there. |  |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:46 - Jan 9 with 5246 views | stickymockwell |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:17 - Jan 9 by TNBlue |
One less hoodrat to worry about. Why was a 14 year old running around on a moped? Illegal in itself. I have absolutely no doubt he was involved in a gang - quite possibly a drug courier yes. Most certainly targetted by another gang. I really don't mind them wiping each other out - it's when innocent bystanders get caught up in it, then it's regrettable.
But of course, it's not their fault is it? You sound like one of these lefty apologists. |
Well seeing as you have already judged this character I predict you are:
A UKIPer
Brexiteer
50 to 60 years old
A bit over weight
Live in a Cul-de-sac
Divorced
Toupee wearer |  |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:48 - Jan 9 with 5231 views | Herbivore |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:17 - Jan 9 by TNBlue |
One less hoodrat to worry about. Why was a 14 year old running around on a moped? Illegal in itself. I have absolutely no doubt he was involved in a gang - quite possibly a drug courier yes. Most certainly targetted by another gang. I really don't mind them wiping each other out - it's when innocent bystanders get caught up in it, then it's regrettable.
But of course, it's not their fault is it? You sound like one of these lefty apologists. |
And you sound like a bellend. | |
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| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 17:12 - Jan 9 with 5196 views | chicoazul |
| Drug buyers, you must be very proud on 16:17 - Jan 9 by TNBlue |
One less hoodrat to worry about. Why was a 14 year old running around on a moped? Illegal in itself. I have absolutely no doubt he was involved in a gang - quite possibly a drug courier yes. Most certainly targetted by another gang. I really don't mind them wiping each other out - it's when innocent bystanders get caught up in it, then it's regrettable.
But of course, it's not their fault is it? You sound like one of these lefty apologists. |
My friend, you are very confused. You will find if you speak to the people who always debate me on this topic & hate my views on it, some of whom I see have contributed already to this thread, that I am anything but a "lefty apologist".
You however sound like a grade A copper-plate rsehole, celebrating the stabbing to death in the street of a terrified child. [Post edited 9 Jan 2019 17:15]
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