| England v Belgium........ 08:15 - Jun 25 with 2405 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
.......could become a 'yellow card off' for second place with a 0-0 draw to boot! What fun! Or maybe not. |  |
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| England v Belgium........ on 08:28 - Jun 25 with 2375 views | itfcjoe |
Both teams will want to win.
They may make change, most likely will, but those players coming in will be desperate to impress to play in latter stages. |  |
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| England v Belgium........ on 08:40 - Jun 25 with 2340 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| England v Belgium........ on 08:28 - Jun 25 by itfcjoe |
Both teams will want to win.
They may make change, most likely will, but those players coming in will be desperate to impress to play in latter stages. |
Hope you're right but second place looks the best route as things stand. | |
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| England v Belgium........ on 08:43 - Jun 25 with 2330 views | Reuser_is_God |
| England v Belgium........ on 08:40 - Jun 25 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Hope you're right but second place looks the best route as things stand. |
I’d like to avoid Columbia. |  |
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| England v Belgium........ on 08:51 - Jun 25 with 2315 views | GlasgowBlue |
| England v Belgium........ on 08:40 - Jun 25 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Hope you're right but second place looks the best route as things stand. |
Yes second place would ensure we don’t face a top team until the semis. First could see us face Germany or Brazil in the quarters.
We have a young exciting team but we lack experience. This young exciting team is capable of turning on a world class performance and shocking any of the big guns. Unfortunately I don’t think they are capable of doing that over three consecutive games against the world’s elite. |  |
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| England v Belgium........ on 08:56 - Jun 25 with 2306 views | Lord_Lucan |
| England v Belgium........ on 08:51 - Jun 25 by GlasgowBlue |
Yes second place would ensure we don’t face a top team until the semis. First could see us face Germany or Brazil in the quarters.
We have a young exciting team but we lack experience. This young exciting team is capable of turning on a world class performance and shocking any of the big guns. Unfortunately I don’t think they are capable of doing that over three consecutive games against the world’s elite. |
Personally I see it like this.
To win the cup you have to get rid of everyone else. Are we looking to win it or just get to the semis?
We have a fearless young side - largely due to Southgates refreshing approach to the tournament, I think we ought to attempt to win every game.
Momentum and confidence is the key. |  |
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| England v Belgium........ on 09:01 - Jun 25 with 2294 views | GlasgowBlue |
| England v Belgium........ on 08:56 - Jun 25 by Lord_Lucan |
Personally I see it like this.
To win the cup you have to get rid of everyone else. Are we looking to win it or just get to the semis?
We have a fearless young side - largely due to Southgates refreshing approach to the tournament, I think we ought to attempt to win every game.
Momentum and confidence is the key. |
If we can avoid an elite team until the semis, and beat them, then we are in the final. And then anything can happen. | |
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| England v Belgium........ on 09:16 - Jun 25 with 2257 views | tractordownsouth |
| England v Belgium........ on 09:01 - Jun 25 by GlasgowBlue |
If we can avoid an elite team until the semis, and beat them, then we are in the final. And then anything can happen. |
Oh Glassers please stop I'm trying to stay level headed about our chances |  |
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| England v Belgium........ on 09:22 - Jun 25 with 2237 views | GlasgowBlue |
| England v Belgium........ on 09:16 - Jun 25 by tractordownsouth |
Oh Glassers please stop I'm trying to stay level headed about our chances |
Our defence hasn’t been tested by a decent front line. That should bring me back down to earth. | |
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| England v Belgium........ on 09:23 - Jun 25 with 2237 views | Lord_Lucan |
| England v Belgium........ on 09:01 - Jun 25 by GlasgowBlue |
If we can avoid an elite team until the semis, and beat them, then we are in the final. And then anything can happen. |
Maybe but I think confidence is key and if The Belgians beat us they have to face other teams knowing they didn't, or couldn't beat The Belgians.
Anyhoo, I don't see how you can go into a game not aiming to win, by playing an unnatural game you can pick up injuries easier. I do see the value of rotating the side but whatever team he picks needs to go out to win. | |
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| England v Belgium........ on 09:24 - Jun 25 with 2230 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
There are no duds left in the tournament by the time you get to the Quarter Finals.. So IF we make it that far, the opposition is irrelevant.
The only thing England can control is England.. So try and win all your matches and deal with who comes next.. With the confidence that we can give anyone a good test. |  | | |
| England v Belgium........ on 09:52 - Jun 25 with 2162 views | StokieBlue |
| England v Belgium........ on 08:40 - Jun 25 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Hope you're right but second place looks the best route as things stand. |
We should try and win every match and keep momentum.
In the end the winner will need to beat good teams.
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| England v Belgium........ on 10:02 - Jun 25 with 2147 views | farkenhell |
| England v Belgium........ on 09:23 - Jun 25 by Lord_Lucan |
Maybe but I think confidence is key and if The Belgians beat us they have to face other teams knowing they didn't, or couldn't beat The Belgians.
Anyhoo, I don't see how you can go into a game not aiming to win, by playing an unnatural game you can pick up injuries easier. I do see the value of rotating the side but whatever team he picks needs to go out to win. |
I agree he should pick an attacking formation and go for the win. We have qualified for the knock-out stage, so we really have nothing to lose (and, anyway, we are second guessing as to who will finish 1st and 2nd in group H).
Confidence and momentum are important. However, in these circumstances, limiting fatigue, avoiding injuries and suspensions are probably more important if we want to progress beyond the last 16 and as far as possible. Remember that the games will continue to come at a rate of roughly two per week until the final, including the likelihood of extra time somewhere along the way.
Personally, I would change the entire starting 11 against Belgium. If we win or draw, fantastic. If we lose, then the whole first-choice 11 will be available for the last 16 game (save for any injuries in training) and we should be more refreshed than our opponents. That team should still have momentum from the Panama game, which will have been played just over a week before.
The Belgium game is a dead rubber. i hope he uses it wisely. |  | | |
| England v Belgium........ on 10:08 - Jun 25 with 2133 views | uefacup81 |
| England v Belgium........ on 10:02 - Jun 25 by farkenhell |
I agree he should pick an attacking formation and go for the win. We have qualified for the knock-out stage, so we really have nothing to lose (and, anyway, we are second guessing as to who will finish 1st and 2nd in group H).
Confidence and momentum are important. However, in these circumstances, limiting fatigue, avoiding injuries and suspensions are probably more important if we want to progress beyond the last 16 and as far as possible. Remember that the games will continue to come at a rate of roughly two per week until the final, including the likelihood of extra time somewhere along the way.
Personally, I would change the entire starting 11 against Belgium. If we win or draw, fantastic. If we lose, then the whole first-choice 11 will be available for the last 16 game (save for any injuries in training) and we should be more refreshed than our opponents. That team should still have momentum from the Panama game, which will have been played just over a week before.
The Belgium game is a dead rubber. i hope he uses it wisely. |
No need for second-guessing - we'll be playing once Group H has been decided, so if we wanted to we could decide our game plan based on who we'd rather face. |  |
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| England v Belgium........ on 10:18 - Jun 25 with 2118 views | IpswichKnight |
| England v Belgium........ on 09:52 - Jun 25 by StokieBlue |
We should try and win every match and keep momentum.
In the end the winner will need to beat good teams.
SB |
Indeed I'd only make 3 changes
Cahill in for Maguire
Rose in for Young
Rashford in for Sterling
Nothing in Group H scares me, Colombia look great going forward, Japan are another well organised team but look so rigid and formulated don't think they would cope with us coming with pace from out wide and through the middle, Senegal look pacey but again suspect at the back. I don't fear having to play any of Brazil ( bang average even with Neymar ) Germany or Mexico later.
We are not perfect you can get at us with balls whipped in behind Walker and we can be hit on the counter by over reaching when we attack, we do look a bit clueless when a team parks the bus or when they flood the midfield. | | | |
| England v Belgium........ on 10:31 - Jun 25 with 2093 views | farkenhell |
| England v Belgium........ on 10:08 - Jun 25 by uefacup81 |
No need for second-guessing - we'll be playing once Group H has been decided, so if we wanted to we could decide our game plan based on who we'd rather face. |
Thanks. I hadn't realised our game starts after group H on Thursday.
Back to the points made by Lucan and others about the importance of winning. Now I'm really not sure. Ordinarily I would agree that winning/momentum is key for confidence building. However, if he plays a reserve team against Belgium, I think that becomes much less of an issue.
If Columbia should finish second and if both Belgium and England would prefer to play Japan, could we really have the scenario where both teams are desperate to lose? Could be something of an "own-goal fest"! | | | |
| England v Belgium........ on 10:38 - Jun 25 with 2079 views | Lord_Lucan |
| England v Belgium........ on 10:31 - Jun 25 by farkenhell |
Thanks. I hadn't realised our game starts after group H on Thursday.
Back to the points made by Lucan and others about the importance of winning. Now I'm really not sure. Ordinarily I would agree that winning/momentum is key for confidence building. However, if he plays a reserve team against Belgium, I think that becomes much less of an issue.
If Columbia should finish second and if both Belgium and England would prefer to play Japan, could we really have the scenario where both teams are desperate to lose? Could be something of an "own-goal fest"! |
These are professional sportsmen, they will go out to win, suggesting anything else is daft IMHO.
Anyhoo, some people also seem to be thinking about the Belgian result with a view to who we could face in the quarter finals.
That's just madness to me. | |
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| Totally agree on 10:40 - Jun 25 with 2070 views | Dyland |
| England v Belgium........ on 08:56 - Jun 25 by Lord_Lucan |
Personally I see it like this.
To win the cup you have to get rid of everyone else. Are we looking to win it or just get to the semis?
We have a fearless young side - largely due to Southgates refreshing approach to the tournament, I think we ought to attempt to win every game.
Momentum and confidence is the key. |
I never look at rankings or stats or history when it comes to the national team at the World Cup or even Euros. If we get to the QF, and that's still a very definite if of course, and lose to a better team on the day, that's no great shakes and means no less to me than if the same happened in the SF. |  |
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| England v Belgium........ on 10:54 - Jun 25 with 2042 views | farkenhell |
| England v Belgium........ on 10:38 - Jun 25 by Lord_Lucan |
These are professional sportsmen, they will go out to win, suggesting anything else is daft IMHO.
Anyhoo, some people also seem to be thinking about the Belgian result with a view to who we could face in the quarter finals.
That's just madness to me. |
I agree it is rather stupid to look beyond the last 16 at the moment. However, on a straight toss up between Columbia and Japan and based on what I've seen of both teams so far, I would prefer us to face Japan. They are no mugs, however Columbia were very impressive yesterday and, I thought, the stronger team for much of the game between both sides, even though they played most of that match with 10 men.
I do agree with you that, to win it, you have to beat everyone you play. However, I am just looking at the next match (after the dead rubber). | | | |
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