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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:54 - Sep 7 with 16327 views | Darth_Koont |
I imagine he gets his chimney swept out by street urchins.
Take that as a euphemism if you want. If we're all allowed to be judgy now, there's a definite Viz's Victorian Dad vibe about him. |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:54 - Sep 7 with 16310 views | GlasgowBlue |
JRM isn't a serious contender for high office. The whole Moggmentum is a bit of a joke.
As for his views? Whether you agree or disagree with them surely you can't criticise him for standing my his principles and answering a question directly, which is in sharp contrast to the way Tim Farron handled himself when asked to clarify his position during on abortion and gay marriage during the election campaign.
I would also add that he wouldn't be getting the same stick if he were a follower of another type of religion which holds the same views. |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:55 - Sep 7 with 16336 views | Superfrans |
I've read so much garbage online over the last 24 hours about the reaction - suggesting that lefties are moaning who wouldn't moan if he was a muslim. What a crock.
The man is putting himself forward as a leader of the Conservative Party, a potential PM. Any Muslim (or anyone of another faith) would be treated the same way in the same circumstances.
Of course his views are going to come under scrutiny - especially if he's saying that a rape victim who finds herself pregnant as a result shouldn't be allowed to have the foetus aborted. Saying he is a repugnant throwback for holding such views isn't challenging his free speech, its voicing an opinion on someone with such a lack of human decency. |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:56 - Sep 7 with 16320 views | hype313 |
Completely out of touch with modern Britain, for balance, would be nice to hear Sadiq Khan's views on FGM.
Having said all that, does it really matter what their personal views are? Blair had strong faith, and probably some views we all would find unpalatable, but it shouldn't get in the way of the job in hand.
An old boss of mine was a Jehovah's witness, he was brilliant at his job, but one day he asked me some bizarre questions about life in general according to his faith, I just humored him, as much as i didn't agree with them, it didn't make me respect him any less. |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:56 - Sep 7 with 16320 views | Stenvict |
Refreshing to hear a politician telling the truth for once and not saying what the general public want to hear. | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:58 - Sep 7 with 16304 views | StokieBlue |
Totally agree.
I'm no fan of the current Labour leadership as probably everyone knows but he's made himself totally unelectable if he becomes leader - I couldn't vote for him if those views are imposed as policy. It is worth noting that not all leaders views become policy though.
It's fine (and sometimes amusing) being a 19th century MP when you have no real power but if you get into power you can't have those idiotic views driven by superstitious nonsense. You certainly can't quote Thomas More from the 16th Century as support for your view.
To be fair he has said his views wouldn't be the law of the land. He did actually answer questions as well which is quite unusual.
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:59 - Sep 7 with 16273 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:55 - Sep 7 by Superfrans |
I've read so much garbage online over the last 24 hours about the reaction - suggesting that lefties are moaning who wouldn't moan if he was a muslim. What a crock.
The man is putting himself forward as a leader of the Conservative Party, a potential PM. Any Muslim (or anyone of another faith) would be treated the same way in the same circumstances.
Of course his views are going to come under scrutiny - especially if he's saying that a rape victim who finds herself pregnant as a result shouldn't be allowed to have the foetus aborted. Saying he is a repugnant throwback for holding such views isn't challenging his free speech, its voicing an opinion on someone with such a lack of human decency. |
Superfrans: "The man is putting himself forward as a leader of the Conservative Party, a potential PM".
JRM: Let me be absolutely clear: I’m not a candidate, there is not a vacancy, I fully support Theresa May and want her to continue. And I’m a backbench MP. In the whole history of the Prime Ministership, the party in office has never felt so desperate that it has dragged somebody from the obscurity of the backbenches to thrust them into the highest office. So the answer to your question is that it is simply not something that is going to happen.”
Can you link any quote from JRM where he is "putting himself forward as a leader of the Conservative Party"? | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:01 - Sep 7 with 16267 views | No9 |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:56 - Sep 7 by Stenvict |
Refreshing to hear a politician telling the truth for once and not saying what the general public want to hear. |
Even if he is representative of a political view that wishes to take us back to previous centuries? | | | |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:02 - Sep 7 with 16253 views | StokieBlue |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:59 - Sep 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Superfrans: "The man is putting himself forward as a leader of the Conservative Party, a potential PM".
JRM: Let me be absolutely clear: I’m not a candidate, there is not a vacancy, I fully support Theresa May and want her to continue. And I’m a backbench MP. In the whole history of the Prime Ministership, the party in office has never felt so desperate that it has dragged somebody from the obscurity of the backbenches to thrust them into the highest office. So the answer to your question is that it is simply not something that is going to happen.”
Can you link any quote from JRM where he is "putting himself forward as a leader of the Conservative Party"? |
To be fair GB, nothing is certain in politics anymore. Nobody thought JC would be leader or perform well in the election.
I wouldn't be surprised to see JRM in a ministerial position at some point fairly soon and we know what the endgame of that type of move would be. Can you name another non-ministerial MP who is on TV/Radio/Papers so much?
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:03 - Sep 7 with 16257 views | Superfrans |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:56 - Sep 7 by hype313 |
Completely out of touch with modern Britain, for balance, would be nice to hear Sadiq Khan's views on FGM.
Having said all that, does it really matter what their personal views are? Blair had strong faith, and probably some views we all would find unpalatable, but it shouldn't get in the way of the job in hand.
An old boss of mine was a Jehovah's witness, he was brilliant at his job, but one day he asked me some bizarre questions about life in general according to his faith, I just humored him, as much as i didn't agree with them, it didn't make me respect him any less. |
You see, I would have a problem with Jehovah's Witness being my boss, as it might well influence his decisions on the development, recruitment and promotion of women - not to mention those of an LGBT persuasion.
I say this as someone who has a JW sibling. [Post edited 7 Sep 2017 12:29]
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:05 - Sep 7 with 16219 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:02 - Sep 7 by StokieBlue |
To be fair GB, nothing is certain in politics anymore. Nobody thought JC would be leader or perform well in the election.
I wouldn't be surprised to see JRM in a ministerial position at some point fairly soon and we know what the endgame of that type of move would be. Can you name another non-ministerial MP who is on TV/Radio/Papers so much?
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Nothing is certain. But SF stated that JRM had put himself forward as a leader of the Conservative Party which he blatantly hasn't done. | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:06 - Sep 7 with 16229 views | blue_oyster |
A good instance of how to be an open and honest politician, and not get bullied by Piers Morgan on TV. If only more MPs could follow this example. |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:06 - Sep 7 with 16221 views | homer_123 |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:01 - Sep 7 by No9 |
Even if he is representative of a political view that wishes to take us back to previous centuries? |
Well, oddly yes, if those are his views, I'd rather know in advance.... |  |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:07 - Sep 7 with 16202 views | StokieBlue |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:05 - Sep 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Nothing is certain. But SF stated that JRM had put himself forward as a leader of the Conservative Party which he blatantly hasn't done. |
Agreed.
There is maneuvering though, I certainly can't think of another non-ministerial MP with such a large media exposure.
You don't think he will get a ministerial position at some point fairly soon then?
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:07 - Sep 7 with 16198 views | No9 |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:56 - Sep 7 by hype313 |
Completely out of touch with modern Britain, for balance, would be nice to hear Sadiq Khan's views on FGM.
Having said all that, does it really matter what their personal views are? Blair had strong faith, and probably some views we all would find unpalatable, but it shouldn't get in the way of the job in hand.
An old boss of mine was a Jehovah's witness, he was brilliant at his job, but one day he asked me some bizarre questions about life in general according to his faith, I just humored him, as much as i didn't agree with them, it didn't make me respect him any less. |
Aren't the views of SK well aired ?
http://jennettearnold.com/2017/01/eradicating-female-genital-mutilation-in-londo | | | |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:09 - Sep 7 with 16192 views | tcblue |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 11:54 - Sep 7 by GlasgowBlue |
JRM isn't a serious contender for high office. The whole Moggmentum is a bit of a joke.
As for his views? Whether you agree or disagree with them surely you can't criticise him for standing my his principles and answering a question directly, which is in sharp contrast to the way Tim Farron handled himself when asked to clarify his position during on abortion and gay marriage during the election campaign.
I would also add that he wouldn't be getting the same stick if he were a follower of another type of religion which holds the same views. |
Right, let's get stuck in:
Standing by his views: yes, I will criticise him for this as they are utterly reprehensible and not befitting of a politician, but we already knew this from his voting record.
Answering a question directly: meh.
Not getting the same stick if he was a different religion: utter codswallop, had it been Sadiq Khan then he would be under WAY more scrutiny - not just from the political right in this country, Trump and co over there haven't exactly been shy in jumping on him just for being a Muslim, regardless of knowing his views! | | | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:14 - Sep 7 with 16128 views | Archer4721 |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:05 - Sep 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Nothing is certain. But SF stated that JRM had put himself forward as a leader of the Conservative Party which he blatantly hasn't done. |
No MP has ever said in public they're looking to oust a PM for themselves to take over.But behind the scenes they're always plotting..... Look at Buffoon Boris for your example. |  | | |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:17 - Sep 7 with 16098 views | No9 |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:05 - Sep 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Nothing is certain. But SF stated that JRM had put himself forward as a leader of the Conservative Party which he blatantly hasn't done. |
So when you proposed Mr Gove would become the next leader of the conservagive party do you think he would have rejected it if it were offered? | | | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:06 - Sep 7 by blue_oyster |
A good instance of how to be an open and honest politician, and not get bullied by Piers Morgan on TV. If only more MPs could follow this example. |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:46 - Sep 7 with 15989 views | imsureazzure |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:03 - Sep 7 by Superfrans |
You see, I would have a problem with Jehovah's Witness being my boss, as it might well influence his decisions on the development, recruitment and promotion of women - not to mention those of an LGBT persuasion.
I say this as someone who has a JW sibling. [Post edited 7 Sep 2017 12:29]
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I wonder how Blair's decisions were swayed by his religion that allows absolvement of any sin if declared?
Religions should be mocked not pandered to, 21st century education and government actively encouraging seperation and belief in controling fairy story lies, strange. |  | | |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:58 - Sep 7 with 15916 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:07 - Sep 7 by StokieBlue |
Agreed.
There is maneuvering though, I certainly can't think of another non-ministerial MP with such a large media exposure.
You don't think he will get a ministerial position at some point fairly soon then?
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I'd be amazed if he got a ministerial position. Then again I was amazed that Corbyn became Labour leader. | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 13:02 - Sep 7 with 15873 views | Superfrans |
| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 12:46 - Sep 7 by imsureazzure |
I wonder how Blair's decisions were swayed by his religion that allows absolvement of any sin if declared?
Religions should be mocked not pandered to, 21st century education and government actively encouraging seperation and belief in controling fairy story lies, strange. |
That's true. Although his religion is arguably irrelevant - it kind of depends whether you select your beliefs based on your religion, or you adopt a religion because it corresponds with your beliefs.
Personally, I'm not particularly religious, but I have no problem with those who are - I respect their right to hold opinions different to mine, as long as they respect my right to disagree with them. | |
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| Jacob Rees-Mogg has made a tit of himself... on 13:17 - Sep 7 with 15795 views | flimflam |
I watched it and thought the presenters were the ones who made tits of themselves.
He has his beliefs and is prepared to stand by them whether others agree with him or not.
Would they have pressed so hard against the Major of London? Probably not but the fact we can have different cultures with different beliefs and values living side by side in this country should be celebrated and not ridiculed.
Just because you have different views to someone does not give you the right to bully someone for theirs.
Good for him for standing by his own personal views which in this day and age for a politician is quite refreshing whether you agree or not. |  |
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