| Post Office Who to Believe 23:22 - Feb 19 with 1971 views | Churchman |
The ex Post Office Chair or Business Secretary Badenoch?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68337728
Well given only 33 claims have been fully settled and the government has only been poked into any action thanks to a tv programme and what I’ve seen of what they do in the past, I think my money is on the ex Post Office Chair.
For them, the truth is for mugs, plebs and nobodies. Politics and their view of the world (an opportunity to fill their boots) is the only game in town.
The Post Office scandal is one of the worst ever and the victims of this appalling miscarriage of justice are still being treated like dirt. |  | | |  |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 23:28 - Feb 19 with 1934 views | benrhyddingblue |
And some will never get justice because they are no longer with us. |  | | |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 23:33 - Feb 19 with 1916 views | Churchman |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 23:28 - Feb 19 by benrhyddingblue |
And some will never get justice because they are no longer with us. |
Some of those even ended their own lives over this. Unforgivable. | | | |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 23:36 - Feb 19 with 1920 views | MattinLondon |
I know that this is very naïve but in these dreadful circumstances you would expect a Government minister not to lie. But, unfortunately that’s not the case. |  | | |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 23:49 - Feb 19 with 1884 views | Churchman |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 23:36 - Feb 19 by MattinLondon |
I know that this is very naïve but in these dreadful circumstances you would expect a Government minister not to lie. But, unfortunately that’s not the case. |
Sadly, they have been doing it for years. It’s normal as breathing to them. They also pressure people into doing stuff then claim it’s nothing to do with them. I’ve seen it done. | | | |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 08:55 - Feb 20 with 1642 views | Guthrum |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 23:36 - Feb 19 by MattinLondon |
I know that this is very naïve but in these dreadful circumstances you would expect a Government minister not to lie. But, unfortunately that’s not the case. |
It's all about liability (who pays the compensation) and short termism (can I not get found out before the press lose interest). |  |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:14 - Feb 20 with 1590 views | blueislander |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 08:55 - Feb 20 by Guthrum |
It's all about liability (who pays the compensation) and short termism (can I not get found out before the press lose interest). |
Henry Staunton went to Ipswich School. I played hockey with him for Suffolk schoolboys. He also went to the same uni as me , but I didn’t know him that well. He had a helluva career though. | | | |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:18 - Feb 20 with 1564 views | NthQldITFC |
If this T*ry government had a record of decency, honesty, fairness, responsibility, humility and the promotion of justice, I suppose I'd believe them.
We need personal accountability brought to bear on each and every member of this reprehensible, disgusting cadre of bastards where they can clearly be shown to have betrayed the UK and her people.
I hope one of the first things Starmer does is to put in place an immutable legal framework to clean up politics once and for all and leave no place for scum like the dregs of the T*ry party to scuttle off to. Without such a thing it's hard to commit to fixing the country knowing that parasites will come along and undo it all in the name of greed. Personal accountability to clean up politics. |  |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:20 - Feb 20 with 1560 views | blueasfook |
My money is on the Chairman. He says he sent an email to colleagues at the time noting what was said in the meeting. I'd love for that email to be dug up and expose Badenoch as a liar. She'd have to go and another huge nail in the Tories coffin. |  |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:27 - Feb 20 with 1481 views | Steve_M |
The bloke who was only there for a year and seems to have been the only person at either the Post Office or government to suffer any consequences for the decade and a bit of failure? |  |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:27 - Feb 20 with 1479 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 08:55 - Feb 20 by Guthrum |
It's all about liability (who pays the compensation) and short termism (can I not get found out before the press lose interest). |
Turbo charged in an election year no doubt. It’s quite reassuring to hear an executive not wanting to play along. |  |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:40 - Feb 20 with 1443 views | Keno |
To paraphrase one of the great Irishmen of History Gerry Nimmo
"Tory they speaks with forked tongue" |  |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:42 - Feb 20 with 1433 views | blueasfook |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:40 - Feb 20 by Keno |
To paraphrase one of the great Irishmen of History Gerry Nimmo
"Tory they speaks with forked tongue" |
His brother Leonard was great as Spock in Star Trek | |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:44 - Feb 20 with 1424 views | DJR |
He's not backing down, and the fourth point of his statement is pretty damning of what Badenoch said about bullying.
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:46 - Feb 20 with 1408 views | Guthrum |
Badenoch made some of those comments in the House of Commons where, of course, she is protected from libel challenge by Parliamentary Privilege. Tho if caught out, she can be censured by the House itself for deliberately misleading them (unlikely given the Government majority). | |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:53 - Feb 20 with 1376 views | DanTheMan |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:44 - Feb 20 by DJR |
He's not backing down, and the fourth point of his statement is pretty damning of what Badenoch said about bullying.
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That last sentence, oof. |  |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 10:04 - Feb 20 with 1339 views | Keno |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:46 - Feb 20 by Guthrum |
Badenoch made some of those comments in the House of Commons where, of course, she is protected from libel challenge by Parliamentary Privilege. Tho if caught out, she can be censured by the House itself for deliberately misleading them (unlikely given the Government majority). |
Perhaps some journalist could ask her to repeat it outside the house and if doesnt just make the point 'well I think we draw our own conclusion as why you wont make that statement without the protection of the house and it begs the questions can we actually believe anything you say?" | |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 11:45 - Feb 20 with 1137 views | giant_stow |
Can they make that note disappear from the system? or would his own copy he said he emailed to himself be enough proof?
Apart from anything, how can you sack someone for bullying without outlining the complaints / going through a proper process? Can he not go to an employment tribunal over that separately? |  |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 11:47 - Feb 20 with 1124 views | DanTheMan |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 11:45 - Feb 20 by giant_stow |
Can they make that note disappear from the system? or would his own copy he said he emailed to himself be enough proof?
Apart from anything, how can you sack someone for bullying without outlining the complaints / going through a proper process? Can he not go to an employment tribunal over that separately? |
"Can they make that note disappear from the system?"
Yes, would be possible. Of course, that means an IT person would have to action it and given everything that has been going on, I doubt they'd want to do so without kicking up a stink. I'd certainly be firing off emails to all sorts of managers to create a paper trail if I was asked to do something like that.
"or would his own copy he said he emailed to himself be enough proof?"
If he emailed it to a private account, something not hosted by the Post Office, it would be fairly trivial to verify if it was a real email. Having just re-read what he said, I think he's saying he emailed the note to his work account which means they could cover it up but for reasons explained above, would seem unlikely they would at this point. [Post edited 20 Feb 11:49]
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 11:50 - Feb 20 with 1112 views | ronnyd |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:42 - Feb 20 by blueasfook |
His brother Leonard was great as Spock in Star Trek |
His other brother Derek was a damn fine actor.  | | | |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 11:53 - Feb 20 with 1092 views | Keno |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 11:50 - Feb 20 by ronnyd |
His other brother Derek was a damn fine actor. |
and lets not forget their pet fish who after some searching for was eventually found | |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 11:54 - Feb 20 with 1089 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 09:42 - Feb 20 by blueasfook |
His brother Leonard was great as Spock in Star Trek |
And his other brother Derek always played a vicar. |  |
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| Post Office Who to Believe on 12:05 - Feb 20 with 1040 views | Churchman |
The situation is not improving for the government.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68146054
It’s almost like the last thy anyone in government, Fujitsu and and PO hierarchy cared about was the truth. | | | |
| Post Office Who to Believe on 07:47 - Feb 21 with 763 views | DJR |
The following from the Times suggests Staunton was telling the truth in his original claim.
Post Office boss was told ‘don’t rip off the band aid’ on finances
Unearthed memo says scandal-hit company was ordered to ‘hobble’ into election
A top civil servant told the former chairman of the Post Office to “hobble” into the election and not to “rip off the band aid” in terms of its finances, according to a memo unearthed on Tuesday.
Sarah Munby, who was then permanent secretary at the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, warned Henry Staunton that “politicians do not necessarily like to confront reality” and that “now was not the time for dealing with long-term issues”, according to a contemporaneous note of their first meeting on January 5 last year.
Staunton wrote the note that night and emailed it to himself. He forwarded a copy to Nick Read, the Post Office’s chief executive, the following day.
Staunton discovered the memo in his personal emails | | | |
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