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By the rivers of effluent ..... 07:34 - Sep 5 with 1267 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

... where we sat down

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66670132

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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 07:38 - Sep 5 with 1246 viewsSwansea_Blue

Peaceful environment protestors facing prison sentences and CEOs getting massive bonus for polluting our rivers. Britain in 2023, eh?

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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 08:12 - Sep 5 with 1180 viewsBlueBadger

By the rivers of effluent ..... on 07:38 - Sep 5 by Swansea_Blue

Peaceful environment protestors facing prison sentences and CEOs getting massive bonus for polluting our rivers. Britain in 2023, eh?


Those bonuses will be trickling down to poor people any day now.

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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 08:13 - Sep 5 with 1181 viewsNthQldITFC

Why are we letting them get away with this?

'We' is all of us, and 'them' is a hell of a lot of us too.

If we don't reset our value systems soon, there really won't be much of a future left to fight for.

Many of our children are already giving up before they have a chance to do anything positive.

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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 08:18 - Sep 5 with 1172 viewsBlueBadger

By the rivers of effluent ..... on 08:13 - Sep 5 by NthQldITFC

Why are we letting them get away with this?

'We' is all of us, and 'them' is a hell of a lot of us too.

If we don't reset our value systems soon, there really won't be much of a future left to fight for.

Many of our children are already giving up before they have a chance to do anything positive.


That's why they're proposing reintroducing national service....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/08/30/penny-mordaunt-great-british-nat

(Paywalled, but opening sentence suggests and automatic sign up.)

Hilariously, the Torygraph then decide that unpaid 'good works' is workers of the worst kind.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/03/national-service-would-just-enslave-

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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 08:33 - Sep 5 with 1154 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

By the rivers of effluent ..... on 08:13 - Sep 5 by NthQldITFC

Why are we letting them get away with this?

'We' is all of us, and 'them' is a hell of a lot of us too.

If we don't reset our value systems soon, there really won't be much of a future left to fight for.

Many of our children are already giving up before they have a chance to do anything positive.


Swimming in sh1t is what this government do best.
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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 08:58 - Sep 5 with 1136 viewsChurchman

By the rivers of effluent ..... on 08:13 - Sep 5 by NthQldITFC

Why are we letting them get away with this?

'We' is all of us, and 'them' is a hell of a lot of us too.

If we don't reset our value systems soon, there really won't be much of a future left to fight for.

Many of our children are already giving up before they have a chance to do anything positive.


The Environment Agency has had their budget halved since 2010 thanks to austerity. Small government - the private sector ‘will do it cheaper, more efficiently’ so there’s nobody to stop these companies. It’s tory philosophy.

These companies are foreign owned and if I’m say a shareholder in Abu Dhabi I’d demand maintenance and investment reduced to zero. Use the rivers and the seas and increase my dividends - I don’t live on turd island and don’t care would be my view. It’s why if you use the private sector like this you need rigorous, meaningful controls. But there’s neither the will, mechanism or the people to do anything about this.

If people get sick, their problem. If the rivers die and the beaches are a toilet, no problem, the privileged will be in the Maldives. It is utterly disgusting.

The solutions are obvious and easy but start with getting rid of this bowl of effluent of a government. The last 16 months or so is going to drag badly as they steal their way into oblivion.

Rant over
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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 09:23 - Sep 5 with 1115 viewsBlueBadger

By the rivers of effluent ..... on 08:33 - Sep 5 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Swimming in sh1t is what this government do best.


Strictly speaking, INSISTING that there is no sh1t and in any case, swimming in it is character building and saying otherwise is traitorous woke rhetoric that should be punishable by hanging is more on-brand for this lot.

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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 10:25 - Sep 5 with 1083 viewsGuthrum

By the rivers of effluent ..... on 08:13 - Sep 5 by NthQldITFC

Why are we letting them get away with this?

'We' is all of us, and 'them' is a hell of a lot of us too.

If we don't reset our value systems soon, there really won't be much of a future left to fight for.

Many of our children are already giving up before they have a chance to do anything positive.


There is no mechanism, short of a revolution, to fix this problem before the government is forced to call an election 15 months hence. And the main alternative seem to have decided they want to emulate the present lot as far as humanly possible, just with different personnel.

Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 10:41 - Sep 5 with 1060 viewsNthQldITFC

By the rivers of effluent ..... on 10:25 - Sep 5 by Guthrum

There is no mechanism, short of a revolution, to fix this problem before the government is forced to call an election 15 months hence. And the main alternative seem to have decided they want to emulate the present lot as far as humanly possible, just with different personnel.


While the tories are the filthy, evil, kleptomaniac bastards at the tip of the spear and the opposition as you say seem to want to follow them, the weight of the spear, the thing without which the spear does no damage, is the insane insistence that we 'all' seem to have on persisting with and worshipping the cancerous ideas of growth, profit and capitalism in a finite, dying world.

Let's not make too much of a fuss lest it effect our dividends, eh?

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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 13:05 - Sep 5 with 1010 viewsDarth_Koont

By the rivers of effluent ..... on 10:41 - Sep 5 by NthQldITFC

While the tories are the filthy, evil, kleptomaniac bastards at the tip of the spear and the opposition as you say seem to want to follow them, the weight of the spear, the thing without which the spear does no damage, is the insane insistence that we 'all' seem to have on persisting with and worshipping the cancerous ideas of growth, profit and capitalism in a finite, dying world.

Let's not make too much of a fuss lest it effect our dividends, eh?


Indeed. It’s a cult.

There is no underlying need for an economy to grow per se.

Although growth does help social mobility and progress in developing countries, developed countries and economies have largely moved beyond those side benefits and need to be focused much more on sustainable and equitable value ... quality over quantity. Which isn’t just vital for the planet but we also know that wealth accumulation and the resulting inequalities doesn’t make anybody’s lives better or societies healthier.

There is a reason why the UK and the US are the political and social basketcases of the developed world. It’s because our free-market, profit-at-all-costs approach is pretty extreme and pulls everything apart. Mostly people.

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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 13:40 - Sep 5 with 949 viewsitfc_bucks

By the rivers of effluent ..... on 10:41 - Sep 5 by NthQldITFC

While the tories are the filthy, evil, kleptomaniac bastards at the tip of the spear and the opposition as you say seem to want to follow them, the weight of the spear, the thing without which the spear does no damage, is the insane insistence that we 'all' seem to have on persisting with and worshipping the cancerous ideas of growth, profit and capitalism in a finite, dying world.

Let's not make too much of a fuss lest it effect our dividends, eh?


"don't look up".

Or out.

Or down.

Best not to look at all really.
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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 14:38 - Sep 5 with 906 viewsHARRY10

By the rivers of effluent ..... on 10:41 - Sep 5 by NthQldITFC

While the tories are the filthy, evil, kleptomaniac bastards at the tip of the spear and the opposition as you say seem to want to follow them, the weight of the spear, the thing without which the spear does no damage, is the insane insistence that we 'all' seem to have on persisting with and worshipping the cancerous ideas of growth, profit and capitalism in a finite, dying world.

Let's not make too much of a fuss lest it effect our dividends, eh?


And therein lies the problem. While red wallers, brexiters and sundry cap doffers are receiving huge dividends from the Water companies, Northern Rail and the excessive profits from private (un) care homes nothing will change.

When you have millions tucked away in offshore funds you don't want naughty folk like the EU making them accountable. And it is not your children at these crumbling schools, so why should you be bothered. It is not true either one of your MPs stated (when visiting a red wall seat)

"I was brought up at Eton, you people look like you were eaten and brought up"

And as dear old MacMillan once said "you've never had it so good".

And one day you will move out of your Northern council house or your Clacton prefab and take your place among the wealthy elite. You just have to believe.

Meanwhile, enjoy the benefits and remember the slogan

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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 16:10 - Sep 5 with 873 viewsNthsuffolkblue

By the rivers of effluent ..... on 08:12 - Sep 5 by BlueBadger

Those bonuses will be trickling down to poor people any day now.


It trickling down the river of effluent (or not actually doing so at all) seems very apt for this thread.

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By the rivers of effluent ..... on 18:15 - Sep 5 with 808 viewsHARRY10

By the rivers of effluent ..... on 16:10 - Sep 5 by Nthsuffolkblue

It trickling down the river of effluent (or not actually doing so at all) seems very apt for this thread.


Looks like the Lords are now fighting back against brexit. As they oppose,

"Last week, Gove and the environment secretary, Thérèse Coffey, announced plans to amend the levelling up bill, which would undo EU-derived rules stopping housebuilders from polluting sensitive areas"

Naughty EU setting standards for clean rivers and beaches

And in response to the claim that it any pollution was due to freak conditions., we have "Water companies have been releasing sewage on to beaches and in rivers even when it is not raining" *

Ah but, claim the righties, without checks how would you know how bad things are. Well, now the UK is out of the EU the requirement for annual checks has been dropped, and checks will now be every six years. The thought there being we have to suppose that as rivers have become fcked why bother to check. As we are not going to do anything about it.

Of course, some might think the government is being painted in a bad light by exposing all this stuff, hmmm .......

Ex-environment secretary to take role at UK waste firm fined for polluting water. A former UK environment secretary is to take a consultancy role with a waste management firm that had to pay £36,000 after an Environment Agency (EA) investigation found contamination of groundwater at a site."

Yes, the same George Eustice MP who lied through his teeth about the supposed benefits of brexit, then blamed others as brexit turned sour. Another Dorries, lining his pockets before he leaves at the next GE. Jumping, before being pushed. Rather akin to having Ronnie Biggs employed by the Post Office.



* https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/three-major-water-companies-accused-308673
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