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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... 13:25 - Feb 2 with 3524 viewsBlueBadger

....she'd turn the other cheek and forgive them?

https://metro.co.uk/2023/02/02/christian-mum-sues-sons-school-for-making-him-tak

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:28 - Feb 2 with 2907 viewsFreddies_Ears

It is disgusting that the term 'Christian' is so often being used to mean 'bigot'. It is not mainstream Christianity that forms her views on LGBT+.
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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:32 - Feb 2 with 2872 viewsDJR

The legal action is being funded by the Christian Legal Centre which if Wikipedia is anything to go by is a slightly dodgy organisation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Legal_Centre

It has all the hallmarks of what is going on in the US, and seems just another front on the anti-woke culture wars.
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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:33 - Feb 2 with 2868 viewsStokieBlue

The pope doesn't agree with her:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/25/pope-francis-calls-for-end-to-anti

I suspect she doesn't agree with herself very often either.

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:34 - Feb 2 with 2862 viewsBlueBadger

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:28 - Feb 2 by Freddies_Ears

It is disgusting that the term 'Christian' is so often being used to mean 'bigot'. It is not mainstream Christianity that forms her views on LGBT+.


Mainstream Christianity is still pretty homophobic, tho.
There's a LOT of T's and C's attached tp 'let him who casts the first stone' and 'love thy neighbour'.

https://time.com/6248002/church-of-england-gay-marriage/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-56402096

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:35 - Feb 2 with 2850 viewsBlueBadger

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:33 - Feb 2 by StokieBlue

The pope doesn't agree with her:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/25/pope-francis-calls-for-end-to-anti

I suspect she doesn't agree with herself very often either.

SB


Let's face it, Jesus didn't agee with her. Don't forget about he never had a girlfriend and once told someone to 'get thee behind me'.

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:42 - Feb 2 with 2804 viewsJ2BLUE

If she really did say no and was then ignored then she really should win the case

Truly impaired.
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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:44 - Feb 2 with 2790 viewsJ2BLUE

There is some proper garbage on that site.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/02/01/man-flies-to-milan-and-buys-a-pizza-for-less-than

Let's not worry about the environmental cost for this ridiculous stunt. I bet others will try and replicate it now as well.

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:50 - Feb 2 with 2763 viewssotd78

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:34 - Feb 2 by BlueBadger

Mainstream Christianity is still pretty homophobic, tho.
There's a LOT of T's and C's attached tp 'let him who casts the first stone' and 'love thy neighbour'.

https://time.com/6248002/church-of-england-gay-marriage/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-56402096


The C of E is moving steadily towards much more tolerance. But the church has a wide variance of thoughts on LGBQT+ matters. The recent agreement to bless gay couples (but not bless their marriage) is a small step forward. But do remember it took 2000 years to get to this point so no one's going to change quickly. The evangelical wing of the C of E and the (not connected) fundamentsalist Christian church that presumably this mum belongs to are not even at the point of tolerancve that the majority of the Anglican bishops have reached.
As asides:
turn the other cheek does not mean be a doormat
we don't know enough about Jesus' sexuality to say he was straight, gay or even perhaps celebate. But some people will hold an opinion based on not much knoweldge.
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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:51 - Feb 2 with 2757 viewsKeno

I'll just leave this here


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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 14:10 - Feb 2 with 2683 viewsBlueBadger

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:50 - Feb 2 by sotd78

The C of E is moving steadily towards much more tolerance. But the church has a wide variance of thoughts on LGBQT+ matters. The recent agreement to bless gay couples (but not bless their marriage) is a small step forward. But do remember it took 2000 years to get to this point so no one's going to change quickly. The evangelical wing of the C of E and the (not connected) fundamentsalist Christian church that presumably this mum belongs to are not even at the point of tolerancve that the majority of the Anglican bishops have reached.
As asides:
turn the other cheek does not mean be a doormat
we don't know enough about Jesus' sexuality to say he was straight, gay or even perhaps celebate. But some people will hold an opinion based on not much knoweldge.
As most of those on TWTD find out each and every day!


'turn the other cheek does not mean be a doormat' - no, it means 'hey, maybe live and let live a little'.

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 14:22 - Feb 2 with 2633 viewsIllinoisblue

The parade was in 2018. The case is only now coming to court? What a waste of everyone’s time.

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 14:26 - Feb 2 with 2613 viewsSwansea_Blue

"A devout Christian.....Izzy Montagu claimed the school was ‘trying to indoctrinate us’".

you couldn't make it up.

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 14:33 - Feb 2 with 2596 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 14:26 - Feb 2 by Swansea_Blue

"A devout Christian.....Izzy Montagu claimed the school was ‘trying to indoctrinate us’".

you couldn't make it up.


She’s not the only one with such beliefs- quite frightening in this day and age:

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/26/birmingham-anderton-park-primary

It seems *insert favourite god here* has some very bigoted views.
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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 14:38 - Feb 2 with 2574 viewshoppy

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:44 - Feb 2 by J2BLUE

There is some proper garbage on that site.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/02/01/man-flies-to-milan-and-buys-a-pizza-for-less-than

Let's not worry about the environmental cost for this ridiculous stunt. I bet others will try and replicate it now as well.


Does he live at the airport, or just walked there so as not to add any additional cost to his claimed bargain?

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 14:40 - Feb 2 with 2566 viewsSwansea_Blue

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 14:33 - Feb 2 by SuperKieranMcKenna

She’s not the only one with such beliefs- quite frightening in this day and age:

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/26/birmingham-anderton-park-primary

It seems *insert favourite god here* has some very bigoted views.


Good grief. Of course the irony of if they did "Let kids be kids!" would be that the kids would be perfectly accepting and wouldn't care less.

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 15:26 - Feb 2 with 2468 viewsDJR

The thing is that if you read Jesus' words in the New Testament* (as opposed to the later teachings of organised religion), they set out a perfect framework to live one's life, and are extremely tolerant.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Sadly, organised religion appears to be obsessed with sin, and completely misses the humanity in Jesus' teachings.

* I have a pocket version of the New Testament with his word with his words in red ink.
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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 15:51 - Feb 2 with 2403 viewsRyorry

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 14:33 - Feb 2 by SuperKieranMcKenna

She’s not the only one with such beliefs- quite frightening in this day and age:

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/26/birmingham-anderton-park-primary

It seems *insert favourite god here* has some very bigoted views.


"in this day and age:" - the article was published nearly 4 years ago tho (May 2019) - maybe things have moved on a bit since then? (I have no idea whether they have tho).

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 15:59 - Feb 2 with 2379 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 15:51 - Feb 2 by Ryorry

"in this day and age:" - the article was published nearly 4 years ago tho (May 2019) - maybe things have moved on a bit since then? (I have no idea whether they have tho).


Fair point - 4 years has probably seen a period of major religious enlightenment, I’m sure they are all fully signed up ‘allies’ now.
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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 16:33 - Feb 2 with 2320 viewsRyorry

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 15:59 - Feb 2 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Fair point - 4 years has probably seen a period of major religious enlightenment, I’m sure they are all fully signed up ‘allies’ now.


On the speed of enlightenment scale, their movement seems at the glacial rather than the lightning fast end!

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 16:56 - Feb 2 with 2254 viewsKropotkin123

Or place their eye on the mantle piece...

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 17:32 - Feb 2 with 2203 viewsMullet

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:32 - Feb 2 by DJR

The legal action is being funded by the Christian Legal Centre which if Wikipedia is anything to go by is a slightly dodgy organisation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Legal_Centre

It has all the hallmarks of what is going on in the US, and seems just another front on the anti-woke culture wars.


They are a horrible organisation in my opinion. They formed "Alfie's army" that intimidated and threatened Alderhey staff and get involved with lots of right to life campaigns.

When parents are at their lowest and desperate they encourage lawsuits and going against NHS advice etc.

You might find this an informative listen on them https://www.tortoisemedia.com/audio/god-on-your-side-christians-courts-and-cultu

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 17:35 - Feb 2 with 2182 viewsDanTheMan

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:32 - Feb 2 by DJR

The legal action is being funded by the Christian Legal Centre which if Wikipedia is anything to go by is a slightly dodgy organisation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Legal_Centre

It has all the hallmarks of what is going on in the US, and seems just another front on the anti-woke culture wars.


These lot again eh? Bringing American-style Evangelical nonsense to the UK, wonderful.

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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 18:25 - Feb 2 with 2075 viewsjontysnut

Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 13:50 - Feb 2 by sotd78

The C of E is moving steadily towards much more tolerance. But the church has a wide variance of thoughts on LGBQT+ matters. The recent agreement to bless gay couples (but not bless their marriage) is a small step forward. But do remember it took 2000 years to get to this point so no one's going to change quickly. The evangelical wing of the C of E and the (not connected) fundamentsalist Christian church that presumably this mum belongs to are not even at the point of tolerancve that the majority of the Anglican bishops have reached.
As asides:
turn the other cheek does not mean be a doormat
we don't know enough about Jesus' sexuality to say he was straight, gay or even perhaps celebate. But some people will hold an opinion based on not much knoweldge.
As most of those on TWTD find out each and every day!


According to the Guardian today Welby would rather disesatablish the CofE as the 'official' church than risk annoying the more conservative global church if forced to allow same sex marriage. It's 2023 ffs.

You don't get theological discussion on Millwall's North Stand Banter.
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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 19:01 - Feb 2 with 2036 viewsZapers

Ok for you to take strike action in something you believe in, but not acceptable for the lady in question to sue because of what she believes in? Double standards I guess.
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Surely, if she was a REAL Christian.... on 23:00 - Feb 2 with 1884 viewsRyorry

Prevented from reading the article by my adblocker, but picking up the gist from the replies here, I hope someone rapidly points out to her & other bigots that she & her son, along with another approx 14 million people*, might not be alive today if it weren't for the work of a gay man who was eventually driven to suicide by the ignorance, hatred & malevolence of homophobes like her.

R.I.P. Alan Turing (hero).

*edit - estimated no. of lives saved by his Enigma machine, which was also estimated to have shortened WW2 by 2 years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18419691
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