| P20 W12 D6 L2 23:09 - Dec 2 with 2871 views | CopfordBlue |
The best record we have ever had after 20 games, we’re in the top two and on course for automatic promotion with 90+ points. Is there anyone who can honestly say they wouldn’t have settled for this at the start of the season? |  |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:13 - Dec 2 with 2211 views | FrimleyBlue |
IF we were on an upward trend of form yes.
But throwing away 7 points at home in a promotion challenging season isn't good enough and won;t be if it continues.
The acceptance of dropping points is worrying, not just supporters but players like Chaplin coming out tonight saying we showed different qualities....
it's not acceptable, the players and manager alike should be saying the same. |  |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:23 - Dec 2 with 2167 views | CopfordBlue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:13 - Dec 2 by FrimleyBlue |
IF we were on an upward trend of form yes.
But throwing away 7 points at home in a promotion challenging season isn't good enough and won;t be if it continues.
The acceptance of dropping points is worrying, not just supporters but players like Chaplin coming out tonight saying we showed different qualities....
it's not acceptable, the players and manager alike should be saying the same. |
What’s unacceptable is supporters thinking that because we were successful decades ago that we should be winning every game.
We’re where we are because we were going backwards for 15 years until very recently. We have the manager, squad and owners to take the club forwards at last. That does not mean we won’t go through patches where we drop points and play below our potential. Negativity and whinging after a bit of a dip is pathetic. | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:28 - Dec 2 with 2138 views | Stewart27 |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:13 - Dec 2 by FrimleyBlue |
IF we were on an upward trend of form yes.
But throwing away 7 points at home in a promotion challenging season isn't good enough and won;t be if it continues.
The acceptance of dropping points is worrying, not just supporters but players like Chaplin coming out tonight saying we showed different qualities....
it's not acceptable, the players and manager alike should be saying the same. |
That’s rubbish.
The stats are the stats. We’re in better form than Plymouth and are on par with Wednesday and have a large gap to 4th.
Why can’t we look at the overall table as an assessment of this season so far? The form we have shown is pretty consistent throughout the season. We’ve had minor peaks and troughs. We haven’t lost for 2 months, for example. For all of us who were actually there tonight it feels bloody awful, but to take to the keyboard and pick out every negative is getting very tiresome. | | | |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:28 - Dec 2 with 2127 views | FrimleyBlue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:23 - Dec 2 by CopfordBlue |
What’s unacceptable is supporters thinking that because we were successful decades ago that we should be winning every game.
We’re where we are because we were going backwards for 15 years until very recently. We have the manager, squad and owners to take the club forwards at last. That does not mean we won’t go through patches where we drop points and play below our potential. Negativity and whinging after a bit of a dip is pathetic. |
It's not about football decades ago. we have spent a fortune in league 1 standards, with facitlities that most of the league would dream to have.
Acceptance of failure is what got us relegated yet the fans clapped our efforts........ | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:30 - Dec 2 with 2121 views | multiplescoregasms |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:23 - Dec 2 by CopfordBlue |
What’s unacceptable is supporters thinking that because we were successful decades ago that we should be winning every game.
We’re where we are because we were going backwards for 15 years until very recently. We have the manager, squad and owners to take the club forwards at last. That does not mean we won’t go through patches where we drop points and play below our potential. Negativity and whinging after a bit of a dip is pathetic. |
Yes we are doing well, no doubt about that. However, what Frimley says is correct. We are throwing away too may points from games and positions where we should be putting our foot on the oppositions neck and not letting up. Transfers in January are a must, otherwise we will end up in the Play-offs and none of us want that. Some players need a bit of a kick up the backside or come the end of the season we will be looking forward to yet another season in this terrible league. Squad depth isn't looking that deep at the moment. |  | | |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:33 - Dec 2 with 2102 views | NeedhamChris |
I'm still relatively positive but the happy clapping is almost as annoying as the blubbing.
1) I'm really not that bothered by the best start we've ever had. It would mean something if we weren't in the third tier compared to most of our history being above that
2) We are not currently on course for automatic promotion (very close, but not quite)
Yes, would have settled for it after the years we've had but doesn't mean that fans can't criticise when we drop 7 points in the last 4 home games + the Charlton debacle in recent weeks. | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:34 - Dec 2 with 2089 views | FrimleyBlue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:28 - Dec 2 by Stewart27 |
That’s rubbish.
The stats are the stats. We’re in better form than Plymouth and are on par with Wednesday and have a large gap to 4th.
Why can’t we look at the overall table as an assessment of this season so far? The form we have shown is pretty consistent throughout the season. We’ve had minor peaks and troughs. We haven’t lost for 2 months, for example. For all of us who were actually there tonight it feels bloody awful, but to take to the keyboard and pick out every negative is getting very tiresome. |
what on earth is being there got to do with anything, Oh I forgot, it changes the result.
ok so taking the table as it is, i feel it's dissapointing we dropped a lead at the top of the table go and at one point a 5 point gap to 3rd.
We had the opportunity to break away but we haven;t and have given ourselves a harder job of getting promoted with little room for further drops of points. | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:38 - Dec 2 with 2079 views | CopfordBlue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:28 - Dec 2 by FrimleyBlue |
It's not about football decades ago. we have spent a fortune in league 1 standards, with facitlities that most of the league would dream to have.
Acceptance of failure is what got us relegated yet the fans clapped our efforts........ |
We’re not failing. | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:40 - Dec 2 with 2063 views | FrimleyBlue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:38 - Dec 2 by CopfordBlue |
We’re not failing. |
anytime you drop points it's a failure, more so when it's a regular occurance. | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:44 - Dec 2 with 2042 views | CopfordBlue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:33 - Dec 2 by NeedhamChris |
I'm still relatively positive but the happy clapping is almost as annoying as the blubbing.
1) I'm really not that bothered by the best start we've ever had. It would mean something if we weren't in the third tier compared to most of our history being above that
2) We are not currently on course for automatic promotion (very close, but not quite)
Yes, would have settled for it after the years we've had but doesn't mean that fans can't criticise when we drop 7 points in the last 4 home games + the Charlton debacle in recent weeks. |
I’m no happy clapper. If we’re in this league next season McKenna has failed. I just don’t think it’s realistic to expect any team to go through a 46 game season without a few spells where they are below their best. | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:48 - Dec 2 with 2014 views | CopfordBlue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:40 - Dec 2 by FrimleyBlue |
anytime you drop points it's a failure, more so when it's a regular occurance. |
Don’t be so silly | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:48 - Dec 2 with 2016 views | Stewart27 |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:34 - Dec 2 by FrimleyBlue |
what on earth is being there got to do with anything, Oh I forgot, it changes the result.
ok so taking the table as it is, i feel it's dissapointing we dropped a lead at the top of the table go and at one point a 5 point gap to 3rd.
We had the opportunity to break away but we haven;t and have given ourselves a harder job of getting promoted with little room for further drops of points. |
We’ve got no god given right to be 5 points clear. Wednesday must have been seething at their dropped points when we were.
Plymouth have dropped more points recently than us. Wednesday must be devastated they haven’t been in the top 2 really all season.
You’re creating this vision that we should be home and dry and using it as a stick to beat us with that we’re not. | | | |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:51 - Dec 2 with 1994 views | FrimleyBlue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:48 - Dec 2 by Stewart27 |
We’ve got no god given right to be 5 points clear. Wednesday must have been seething at their dropped points when we were.
Plymouth have dropped more points recently than us. Wednesday must be devastated they haven’t been in the top 2 really all season.
You’re creating this vision that we should be home and dry and using it as a stick to beat us with that we’re not. |
I've no interest in what other supporters feel about their club,
You said to take the table as it is, im doing so. It's annoying that we let the lead slip and let the gap to 3rd slip. that's taking the table as it is. | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 00:00 - Dec 3 with 1970 views | TalkingBlues |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:28 - Dec 2 by Stewart27 |
That’s rubbish.
The stats are the stats. We’re in better form than Plymouth and are on par with Wednesday and have a large gap to 4th.
Why can’t we look at the overall table as an assessment of this season so far? The form we have shown is pretty consistent throughout the season. We’ve had minor peaks and troughs. We haven’t lost for 2 months, for example. For all of us who were actually there tonight it feels bloody awful, but to take to the keyboard and pick out every negative is getting very tiresome. |
Some valid points, I haven't looked at the recent stats, fortunately Plymouth appear to have been rocky, but alas Wednesday have clearly not let up the chase.
As you say, it's not doom and gloom, there's 3 teams in it at the moment and we're one of them, with a big gap to 4th. If we can get through December with what we've got currently and manage to pick up reasonable points along the way, I'd be happy, but we really do need 4 or 5 in January IMO. |  |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 00:09 - Dec 3 with 1933 views | SitfcB |
The D6 is a concern.
Should be W 16 D 2 L2 (Charlton, Fleetwood and Cheltenham, our own doing) (Barnsley the ref) |  |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 00:20 - Dec 3 with 1901 views | pointofblue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 00:09 - Dec 3 by SitfcB |
The D6 is a concern.
Should be W 16 D 2 L2 (Charlton, Fleetwood and Cheltenham, our own doing) (Barnsley the ref) |
Could argue the ref to an extent tonight, though we may have missed the last gasp penalty anyway. | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 00:56 - Dec 3 with 1854 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Oh duck off…. That’s ridiculous.
You are blind. |  |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 03:15 - Dec 3 with 1783 views | davblue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:51 - Dec 2 by FrimleyBlue |
I've no interest in what other supporters feel about their club,
You said to take the table as it is, im doing so. It's annoying that we let the lead slip and let the gap to 3rd slip. that's taking the table as it is. |
We a currently 2nd 1 point off the top of the table… that’s the table as it is. |  | | |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 03:16 - Dec 3 with 1777 views | davblue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 23:40 - Dec 2 by FrimleyBlue |
anytime you drop points it's a failure, more so when it's a regular occurance. |
We will drop points that’s football.
Letting leads slip is starting to become a concern but I trust in the manager that he will sort it out. | | | |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 05:28 - Dec 3 with 1695 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Alas only two get promoted and Franchise Town will probably be third after tonight. BUT it was a point gained against Plymouth and only two more are required over the next 26 games even if Sheff Wed keep going at their current rate. That seems quite a plausible target. Trouble is some people expect to win every game. | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 07:43 - Dec 3 with 1597 views | itfcjoe |
We are in a fantastic position - there will be bumps along the way but we are in track for 97 points and are the top goal scorers in the league plus safely in the 3rd round of the cup.
Every frustration is massively over analysed - fortunately McKenna is sensible enough to trust the process and that is what any fan that isn’t a bed wetter is doing |  |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 10:32 - Dec 3 with 1446 views | FrimleyBlue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 07:43 - Dec 3 by itfcjoe |
We are in a fantastic position - there will be bumps along the way but we are in track for 97 points and are the top goal scorers in the league plus safely in the 3rd round of the cup.
Every frustration is massively over analysed - fortunately McKenna is sensible enough to trust the process and that is what any fan that isn’t a bed wetter is doing |
you have full trust in a manager in his first full season as a manager whose side has thrown away point after point from winning positions at home and someone who'd rather take 4 defenders on the bench.
Of course in 3/4 years time when he's no longer with town he may have learnt from these mistakes... but for Town, we need him to learn and learn fast. | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 11:01 - Dec 3 with 1396 views | davblue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 10:32 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
you have full trust in a manager in his first full season as a manager whose side has thrown away point after point from winning positions at home and someone who'd rather take 4 defenders on the bench.
Of course in 3/4 years time when he's no longer with town he may have learnt from these mistakes... but for Town, we need him to learn and learn fast. |
That manager also has his team 2nd in the league 1 point off top.
Stop being a melt all your life. | | | |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 11:04 - Dec 3 with 1384 views | FrimleyBlue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 11:01 - Dec 3 by davblue |
That manager also has his team 2nd in the league 1 point off top.
Stop being a melt all your life. |
lol, can't have a debate without getting personal can you, bless. | |
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| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 11:07 - Dec 3 with 1367 views | pointofblue |
| P20 W12 D6 L2 on 07:43 - Dec 3 by itfcjoe |
We are in a fantastic position - there will be bumps along the way but we are in track for 97 points and are the top goal scorers in the league plus safely in the 3rd round of the cup.
Every frustration is massively over analysed - fortunately McKenna is sensible enough to trust the process and that is what any fan that isn’t a bed wetter is doing |
I was going to say the issue is the repetitiveness of the bumps, but that isn’t quite true, in fairness. We’ve ended up dropping points in different ways.
Lincoln - had chance after chance we couldn’t convert
Cheltenham - dominated possession but couldn’t create
Charlton - defensive horror show including uncharacteristic errors from Walton
Fleetwood - allowed them possession and were pushed back
So it’s not a case of being unable to learn from our mistakes. More different ways of dropping points. | |
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