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Risk is overstated by media 21:20 - Mar 21 with 19855 viewsOxford_Blue

In the U.S. alone, the flu (not coronavirus) has caused an estimated 36 million illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

World wide it causes about 500,000 deaths a year.

Millions die of starvation.

We have less than 200 deaths.

We need to get a sense of perspective.

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Risk is overstated by media on 22:52 - Mar 21 with 2511 viewsfooters

Risk is overstated by media on 22:45 - Mar 21 by StokieBlue

The flu false equivalence is one perpetrated by morons without an understanding of the science and I am tired of rebuffing.

You do think rather a lot of yourself though, belittling people you don't know with regards to their qualifications because they don't agree with you, the implication being that because you're a lawyer you're smarter than them.

To quote myself in our previous exchanges:

"For someone who spends a good percentage of their time telling us about their intelligence and their success through hard work you don't half talk a load of simplistic sh*te."

SB


Keep up. 'Thinking', 'feeling' and 'believing' are the new knowing.

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:21 - Mar 21 with 2471 viewsGaryCooper

We need to know the life expectancy of all of the deceased prior to the testing of CV.

The media really must stop showing empty shelves, it is in no way the true picture.

How many of those who have died were already in hospital?
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Risk is overstated by media on 23:22 - Mar 21 with 2465 viewsvapour_trail

Risk is overstated by media on 23:21 - Mar 21 by GaryCooper

We need to know the life expectancy of all of the deceased prior to the testing of CV.

The media really must stop showing empty shelves, it is in no way the true picture.

How many of those who have died were already in hospital?


Shelves are empty in my hood, Garry.

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:24 - Mar 21 with 2460 viewsjeera

Risk is overstated by media on 23:21 - Mar 21 by GaryCooper

We need to know the life expectancy of all of the deceased prior to the testing of CV.

The media really must stop showing empty shelves, it is in no way the true picture.

How many of those who have died were already in hospital?


Got to say the exact same as Vapour man.

The shelves in Tesco, Sainsbury's and Morrisons this week were empty.

And the same large gaps in all my local shops too where deliveries are not keeping up and actually seemed to have given up trying.

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:25 - Mar 21 with 2458 viewsGaryCooper

Risk is overstated by media on 23:22 - Mar 21 by vapour_trail

Shelves are empty in my hood, Garry.


Not in my parish, one may not be able to buy exactly what they wish but the shelves are 75% stacked. Food is available.
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Risk is overstated by media on 23:28 - Mar 21 with 2449 viewshomer_123

Risk is overstated by media on 23:21 - Mar 21 by GaryCooper

We need to know the life expectancy of all of the deceased prior to the testing of CV.

The media really must stop showing empty shelves, it is in no way the true picture.

How many of those who have died were already in hospital?


Well...I can safely say in N Essex the local Co Op, Sainsburys, Iceland, Aldi and M&S all have empty shelves....not all shelves but more than just one or two.

Covid-19 is def affecting those with underlying health issues in terms or mortality.

You only need look at Imperial London paper from last week and the recent WHO data and announcement to see just how many are need hospital treatment...which was always the overriding concern here.

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:28 - Mar 21 with 2448 viewsGaryCooper

Risk is overstated by media on 23:22 - Mar 21 by vapour_trail

Shelves are empty in my hood, Garry.


I was a little flippant, the shelves are not empty where I am if one knows to avoid the masses.
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Risk is overstated by media on 23:29 - Mar 21 with 2445 viewshomer_123

Risk is overstated by media on 23:25 - Mar 21 by GaryCooper

Not in my parish, one may not be able to buy exactly what they wish but the shelves are 75% stacked. Food is available.


No one has said food isn't available though.

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:33 - Mar 21 with 2432 viewsvapour_trail

Risk is overstated by media on 23:25 - Mar 21 by GaryCooper

Not in my parish, one may not be able to buy exactly what they wish but the shelves are 75% stacked. Food is available.


No fruit, veg (except brussel sprouts), meat, eggs, bread, pasta, lager. And loo roll obvs.

I can’t go anyway. I got a rib of beef, half leg of lamb and some sausages from the butchers this morning. Cost me over forty sheets mind.

I phoned the order in, drove and parked over the road, and they sent the young lad out who left it on the pavement next to the car.

I’m quite excited about the lamb which I’ll be doing tomorrow afternoon.

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:36 - Mar 21 with 2420 viewsBrixtonBlue

Risk is overstated by media on 23:22 - Mar 21 by vapour_trail

Shelves are empty in my hood, Garry.


Yeah same here. No eggs, bread or pasta in our local Sainoes.

I bet Bloots will downarrow this.
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Risk is overstated by media on 23:37 - Mar 21 with 2407 viewsvapour_trail

Risk is overstated by media on 23:36 - Mar 21 by BrixtonBlue

Yeah same here. No eggs, bread or pasta in our local Sainoes.


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Risk is overstated by media on 23:38 - Mar 21 with 2407 viewsjeera

Risk is overstated by media on 23:33 - Mar 21 by vapour_trail

No fruit, veg (except brussel sprouts), meat, eggs, bread, pasta, lager. And loo roll obvs.

I can’t go anyway. I got a rib of beef, half leg of lamb and some sausages from the butchers this morning. Cost me over forty sheets mind.

I phoned the order in, drove and parked over the road, and they sent the young lad out who left it on the pavement next to the car.

I’m quite excited about the lamb which I’ll be doing tomorrow afternoon.


"I’m quite excited about the lamb which I’ll be doing tomorrow afternoon."

Whatever gets you through this buddy.

But what you cooking for dinner?

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:39 - Mar 21 with 2399 viewsStokieBlue

Risk is overstated by media on 23:36 - Mar 21 by BrixtonBlue

Yeah same here. No eggs, bread or pasta in our local Sainoes.


The local shops seem to have quite a bit of stuff left, although costs a bit more.

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:41 - Mar 21 with 2392 viewsBrixtonBlue

Risk is overstated by media on 23:25 - Mar 21 by GaryCooper

Not in my parish, one may not be able to buy exactly what they wish but the shelves are 75% stacked. Food is available.


You realise your parish isn't indicative of the whole country?

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:41 - Mar 21 with 2391 viewshomer_123

Risk is overstated by media on 23:39 - Mar 21 by StokieBlue

The local shops seem to have quite a bit of stuff left, although costs a bit more.

SB


Managed to get veg at local Farm Shop in the end.

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:41 - Mar 21 with 2391 viewsvapour_trail

Risk is overstated by media on 23:38 - Mar 21 by jeera

"I’m quite excited about the lamb which I’ll be doing tomorrow afternoon."

Whatever gets you through this buddy.

But what you cooking for dinner?


I went to a wedding once next to a farm, me and my brother spent about an hour running around a field in the dark attempting to catch a sheep that we could leave as a surprise for the happy couple in the bridal suite.

Failed and got muddy, which took some explaining.

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:45 - Mar 21 with 2378 viewsBrixtonBlue

Risk is overstated by media on 23:37 - Mar 21 by vapour_trail

Enjoying life in the Palace, dollers?


Yeah lovely, thanks. We're a 5 min walk from the park, so that's nice when you can't do much else.

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:47 - Mar 21 with 2362 viewsvapour_trail

Risk is overstated by media on 23:45 - Mar 21 by BrixtonBlue

Yeah lovely, thanks. We're a 5 min walk from the park, so that's nice when you can't do much else.


We nearly bought there in 2005, but everywhere we went for was riddled with damp. Loved the triangle, shame you can’t make use of it all currently, but eventually...

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:57 - Mar 21 with 2344 viewsOsborneOneNil

Listen to this UK Doctor, you dick.

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Risk is overstated by media on 23:58 - Mar 21 with 2345 viewssparks

Its more contagious and more deadly than Flu.

If 50% of the US gets it. 10% need hospital (18.5m). and 2% of those die (370,000) that is massive. Even if many others dont die or the mortality rate doesnt rocket as a result of healthcare systems being totally overloaded- which is clearly a very real prospect.

You need a sense of perspective.

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Risk is overstated by media on 00:14 - Mar 22 with 2313 viewsClapham_Junction

Risk is overstated by media on 23:58 - Mar 21 by sparks

Its more contagious and more deadly than Flu.

If 50% of the US gets it. 10% need hospital (18.5m). and 2% of those die (370,000) that is massive. Even if many others dont die or the mortality rate doesnt rocket as a result of healthcare systems being totally overloaded- which is clearly a very real prospect.

You need a sense of perspective.


To put some actual numbers on that:

According to the Wiki article on coronavirus, the death rate is about 4% (for diagnosed cases).

In contrast, the US government estimates that 0.1% of people who had flu in 2018/19 died (34,200 deaths from 35.5m cases).

The equivalent deaths from coronavirus at 4.1% would be nearly 1.5 million.
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Risk is overstated by media on 00:19 - Mar 22 with 2291 viewsvapour_trail

Risk is overstated by media on 00:14 - Mar 22 by Clapham_Junction

To put some actual numbers on that:

According to the Wiki article on coronavirus, the death rate is about 4% (for diagnosed cases).

In contrast, the US government estimates that 0.1% of people who had flu in 2018/19 died (34,200 deaths from 35.5m cases).

The equivalent deaths from coronavirus at 4.1% would be nearly 1.5 million.
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That in itself isn’t right though CJ, diagnosed cases are a fraction of unknown degree of infections. Until we can test who has had it, we won’t know this.

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Risk is overstated by media on 00:33 - Mar 22 with 2247 viewsClapham_Junction

Risk is overstated by media on 00:19 - Mar 22 by vapour_trail

That in itself isn’t right though CJ, diagnosed cases are a fraction of unknown degree of infections. Until we can test who has had it, we won’t know this.


Mea culpa. I guess this means the actual death rate is likely to be quite a bit lower?
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Risk is overstated by media on 00:36 - Mar 22 with 2239 viewsSpruceMoose

Well done for spectacularly missing the point.

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Risk is overstated by media on 00:39 - Mar 22 with 2449 viewsvapour_trail

Risk is overstated by media on 00:33 - Mar 22 by Clapham_Junction

Mea culpa. I guess this means the actual death rate is likely to be quite a bit lower?


I think so, yes.

Disclaimer: I am not medically qualified, and in fact, a bit of a fckwit.

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