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Sadiq Kahn 17:17 - Jun 3 with 4708 viewsreusersfreekicks

Top bloke - dares to say it how ot is re Trump.
Slagged off by that pompous edwardian extremist JRM, complete tool
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Sadiq Kahn on 15:19 - Jun 4 with 370 viewsSpruceMoose

Sadiq Kahn on 15:17 - Jun 4 by MrTown

I don’t live in America, that’s the yanks job to sort out that problem, Mr. Kahn needs to be sorting out what is happening in our country and our capital.


It's a desperate bozo argument to say that a few interviews and an Op Ed means he's not doing that.

He might have watched some TV last, better slam him for that as well. Bloody Khan, taking his eye off the ball to watch Eastenders.
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Sadiq Kahn on 15:19 - Jun 4 with 369 viewsSpruceMoose

Sadiq Kahn on 15:18 - Jun 4 by unbelievablue

This is quite substantial and I'm certain most of Khan's detractors have never heard of any of it. Some of it is lip service, but much of it is tangible, active work to help combat knife crime. Now, given all this is being done, it might be worth CONSIDERING other factors when it comes to why London is getting less safe.

-The Mayor has funded a new dedicated Violent Crime Taskforce of nearly 300 police officers focusing on the areas worst affected

-Since the VCTF was launched in April 2018, the command has carried out 7,056 weapon sweeps in public parks and open spaces looking for weapons and drugs. They seized 731 knives, 539 offensive weapons, 263 firearms and arrested 3,907 suspects

-A Violence Reduction Unit has been established. This brings the police together with specialists from health, local government, probation and community organisations to tackle violent crime and the underlying causes of violent crime. The Unit is learning from counterparts in Glasgow, where a public health approach was successfully implemented over several years and led to a fall in violence.

-The Mayor has created the £45 million Young Londoners Fund to provide young people with positive alternatives to crime and to help Londoners to get out of gangs and violence and into employment and training. The second round of applications for the Young Londoners Fund opens in May 2019

-Our Stepping Stones programme, supporting at-risk young people in their transition from primary to secondary school, has been expanded to 15 schools, helping 2,100 vulnerable young Londoners

-The widely shared London Needs You Alive campaign, viewed over 4 million times, brings together role models and youth influencers to send a positive message to young people - that they shouldn’t put their lives at risk by carrying a knife. The campaign recently expanded to engage community groups, faith groups and schools with a new educational toolkit

-The Mayor’s granted £7 million to projects to combat youth violence across London and £250,000 to community groups and grassroots initiatives

-The Mayor is working to bring in more Safer Schools Officers to help to drive down knife crime in schools

-The Mayor is investing £1.4 million to continue to provide youth workers in Major Trauma Centres, and place more youth workers in hospital A&E departments, to help steer young Londoners who have been involved in knife crime away from violence in the future

-We are working with the MPS, Trading Standards and retailers to stop knives getting into the hands of underage Londoners. We are supporting and promoting the National Business Crime Centre’s Top Ten Tips for preventing the underage sale and theft of knives to all London retailers

-Knife wands are now available for every school in London to help keep young people safe, with 200 schools so far taking up the offer

-The Mayor is investing £2 million in London Gang Exit services to support young people at risk of or engaged in serious violence and help them into employment, education or training

-City Hall works with the police, charities and councils on two programmes aimed at ending and preventing gang violence and exploitation, working with victims and young people at risk.


Yeah but he sent a Tweet on Sunday so that means nothing.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:24 - Jun 4 with 348 viewsHerbivore

Sadiq Kahn on 15:09 - Jun 4 by MrTown

What will attacking Trump achieve?.... nothing

What will tackling knife crime achieve?...... lives.


I'm not sure how many more ways I can explain to you that you're setting up a false choice. I'm not the only one struggling to get this message through either.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:24 - Jun 4 with 347 viewsMrTown

Sadiq Kahn on 15:14 - Jun 4 by SpruceMoose

Well, in this discussion you are more in his corner. I'm not suggestion you're a MAGA hat wearing fanboy though, sorry if that was what came across.

We do need those crime stats to judge what you're saying though:

What are the actual rates of the crimes below, not just the increases:

Residential burglary
Robbery
Homicide
Knife Crime
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Report i read this morning after his quote on London not being “less safe”. I’m sure you can get it up if you google that.

Think the figure on homicide was about 130 in London.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:25 - Jun 4 with 343 viewsBlueBoots

Sadiq Kahn on 14:47 - Jun 4 by MrTown

Cutting budgets yet an additional £100m was given enough to police forces to tackle knife crime, it may not be enough but it’s a start, and it’s certainly better than not been given any funding.

I don’t know the answer, you don’t know the answer, but we are not mayors of cities.


Well, considering central government funding for the Metropolitan Police has been cut by £700m since 2010-11 (works out at about 33-40% of budget in real terms), with respect, £100m is like trying to fix a broken leg with a sticking plaster. (Also, IIRC, that extra £100m was generated by raising council taxes and business rates in London - not an increase in government funding)

In terms of numbers, the drop works out roughly at 10k Police Officers (down from 15k), and 1.5k Community Support Officers (down from 4.5k), with a loss of 120 Police Stations.

Maybe the Home Secretary at that time who green-lighted these cuts deserves a bigger share of the blame for this problem than the current mayor who is trying to solve it despite having his hands tied?

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:26 - Jun 4 with 336 viewsSpruceMoose

It's a shame that, when asked directly in the press conference today if she agreed that Khan was a stone cold loser, May, the Prime Minister of the UK, dodged answering and didn't take the chance to defend the Mayor of the UK's largest city and tell the sexual abuser standing next to her to keep his corrupt beak out.

That's the special relationship in a nut shell. We bend over, grab our ankles and Uncle Sam goes to town on our collective nugholes.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:27 - Jun 4 with 327 viewsMrTown

Sadiq Kahn on 15:14 - Jun 4 by SpruceMoose

Well, in this discussion you are more in his corner. I'm not suggestion you're a MAGA hat wearing fanboy though, sorry if that was what came across.

We do need those crime stats to judge what you're saying though:

What are the actual rates of the crimes below, not just the increases:

Residential burglary
Robbery
Homicide
Knife Crime
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And please don’t suggest I’m a Trump fanboy or supporter, don’t be putting words in my mouth. I simply agreed with one comment he made about a real and true problem in our capital. That doesn’t make me a supporter.

His racial views are f***ing disgusting to be honest.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:28 - Jun 4 with 322 viewsNo9

Sadiq Kahn on 15:06 - Jun 4 by MrTown

See post below to just how safe London has become under Mr. Kahn.


Serous crime in the UK is a big problem now because Mrs May cut the police numbers.

The Mayor of London has limited ability to increse police and has limited jurisdiction over the suburbs where much of the knife crime is committed.

The mayor of London has no jurisdiction over the serious increases in what we might call white collar crime in the financial servcies and cyber related issues.
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Sadiq Kahn on 15:29 - Jun 4 with 322 viewsMrTown

Sadiq Kahn on 15:24 - Jun 4 by Herbivore

I'm not sure how many more ways I can explain to you that you're setting up a false choice. I'm not the only one struggling to get this message through either.


I understand your opinion, but I would like meaningful things to be done, not meaningless things to be said.

Maybe you don’t.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:30 - Jun 4 with 317 viewsHerbivore

Sadiq Kahn on 15:29 - Jun 4 by MrTown

I understand your opinion, but I would like meaningful things to be done, not meaningless things to be said.

Maybe you don’t.


Ffs.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:30 - Jun 4 with 317 viewsSpruceMoose

Sadiq Kahn on 15:24 - Jun 4 by MrTown

Report i read this morning after his quote on London not being “less safe”. I’m sure you can get it up if you google that.

Think the figure on homicide was about 130 in London.


So now we are into judgement calls. Do you think 132 murders in 2018, in a city of 8 million qualifies London as a dangerous place?

For contrast NYC had 289 in a city of 8.6 million.

For further contrast, in Port au Prince there were 757 reported murders in 2018. The population there is an estimated 900,000 people.

To be honest, London doesn't seem very dangerous to me.
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Sadiq Kahn on 15:30 - Jun 4 with 316 viewsMrTown

Sadiq Kahn on 15:26 - Jun 4 by SpruceMoose

It's a shame that, when asked directly in the press conference today if she agreed that Khan was a stone cold loser, May, the Prime Minister of the UK, dodged answering and didn't take the chance to defend the Mayor of the UK's largest city and tell the sexual abuser standing next to her to keep his corrupt beak out.

That's the special relationship in a nut shell. We bend over, grab our ankles and Uncle Sam goes to town on our collective nugholes.


A symbol of the relationship between two terrible leaders.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:33 - Jun 4 with 309 viewsMrTown

Sadiq Kahn on 15:25 - Jun 4 by BlueBoots

Well, considering central government funding for the Metropolitan Police has been cut by £700m since 2010-11 (works out at about 33-40% of budget in real terms), with respect, £100m is like trying to fix a broken leg with a sticking plaster. (Also, IIRC, that extra £100m was generated by raising council taxes and business rates in London - not an increase in government funding)

In terms of numbers, the drop works out roughly at 10k Police Officers (down from 15k), and 1.5k Community Support Officers (down from 4.5k), with a loss of 120 Police Stations.

Maybe the Home Secretary at that time who green-lighted these cuts deserves a bigger share of the blame for this problem than the current mayor who is trying to solve it despite having his hands tied?


The extent to the cuts are clearly a factor.

How can the statistics be up so high on crime in London since just 2016, by which the cuts likewise would have been in place then?

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:33 - Jun 4 with 308 viewsunbelievablue

Sadiq Kahn on 15:30 - Jun 4 by SpruceMoose

So now we are into judgement calls. Do you think 132 murders in 2018, in a city of 8 million qualifies London as a dangerous place?

For contrast NYC had 289 in a city of 8.6 million.

For further contrast, in Port au Prince there were 757 reported murders in 2018. The population there is an estimated 900,000 people.

To be honest, London doesn't seem very dangerous to me.
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London isn't dangerous, relatively speaking, as you say.

It also doesn't feel dangerous to me, living and working here for 7 years.

Violent crime, as always, is almost exclusively contained in certain areas among certain demogaphics and has its roots in gang culture and drugs.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:36 - Jun 4 with 294 viewsMrTown

Sadiq Kahn on 15:30 - Jun 4 by SpruceMoose

So now we are into judgement calls. Do you think 132 murders in 2018, in a city of 8 million qualifies London as a dangerous place?

For contrast NYC had 289 in a city of 8.6 million.

For further contrast, in Port au Prince there were 757 reported murders in 2018. The population there is an estimated 900,000 people.

To be honest, London doesn't seem very dangerous to me.
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Trump likewise said that the Mayor of NYC is also appalling yesterday IIRC.

I don’t like being in certain areas of London, there are others areas I would say are fine. 130 may seem minimal, but it’s still a rise of 27% under Mr. Kahn’s term, and to the families of the victims, I’m sure they will be v upset with such a rise.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:36 - Jun 4 with 293 viewsSpruceMoose

Sadiq Kahn on 15:33 - Jun 4 by unbelievablue

London isn't dangerous, relatively speaking, as you say.

It also doesn't feel dangerous to me, living and working here for 7 years.

Violent crime, as always, is almost exclusively contained in certain areas among certain demogaphics and has its roots in gang culture and drugs.


Indeed.

If you had no idea of murder statistics and a bloke said to you "There's 8 million people in this city, and I promise you that I will restrict the murder of those 8,000,000 people to just 132 individuals' you'd rip their arm off. He can't control human nature.

There isn't a single metric by which London can be judged to be dangerous. Only fearful country folk who never go near the place think it is.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:37 - Jun 4 with 289 viewsunbelievablue

Sadiq Kahn on 15:36 - Jun 4 by MrTown

Trump likewise said that the Mayor of NYC is also appalling yesterday IIRC.

I don’t like being in certain areas of London, there are others areas I would say are fine. 130 may seem minimal, but it’s still a rise of 27% under Mr. Kahn’s term, and to the families of the victims, I’m sure they will be v upset with such a rise.


Which areas?

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:39 - Jun 4 with 287 viewsMrTown

Sadiq Kahn on 15:33 - Jun 4 by unbelievablue

London isn't dangerous, relatively speaking, as you say.

It also doesn't feel dangerous to me, living and working here for 7 years.

Violent crime, as always, is almost exclusively contained in certain areas among certain demogaphics and has its roots in gang culture and drugs.


From your opinion, if we know this information, and we know these areas, surely it would make it an easier task to target these problems.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:40 - Jun 4 with 283 viewsunbelievablue

Sadiq Kahn on 15:39 - Jun 4 by MrTown

From your opinion, if we know this information, and we know these areas, surely it would make it an easier task to target these problems.


We do, and we are (see previous post).

There just aren't enough police to do so effectively.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:42 - Jun 4 with 277 viewsSpruceMoose

Sadiq Kahn on 15:36 - Jun 4 by MrTown

Trump likewise said that the Mayor of NYC is also appalling yesterday IIRC.

I don’t like being in certain areas of London, there are others areas I would say are fine. 130 may seem minimal, but it’s still a rise of 27% under Mr. Kahn’s term, and to the families of the victims, I’m sure they will be v upset with such a rise.


I'm sure if there was one murder the family of that victim would be upset. That's not how we judge danger though. The fact that you don't like being in some areas of London is a matter of your perception. Thousands of people live happily in those areas.

You're arguing that London has become more dangerous under Khan, and that is his fault. The point is London wasn't dangerous before Khan, it isn't dangerous now, and it won't be dangerous when he leaves office.

By the way, Bill de Blasio is truly awful. But not for any of the reasons Trump thinks he is.
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Sadiq Kahn on 15:42 - Jun 4 with 277 viewsfooters

Sadiq Kahn on 15:36 - Jun 4 by SpruceMoose

Indeed.

If you had no idea of murder statistics and a bloke said to you "There's 8 million people in this city, and I promise you that I will restrict the murder of those 8,000,000 people to just 132 individuals' you'd rip their arm off. He can't control human nature.

There isn't a single metric by which London can be judged to be dangerous. Only fearful country folk who never go near the place think it is.


If you've taken the Tube recently you'd consider that number *incredibly* low. I think of hurting my fellow man much more than I ever used to. Just a little nudge onto the tracks, there's a good boy.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:42 - Jun 4 with 271 viewsjaykay

Sadiq Kahn on 13:40 - Jun 4 by No9

Playing to the Londodn bubble is his job.
At least he isn't chucking £millions of taxpayer money on private projects


that bridge only cost us 53 and a half million quid

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:43 - Jun 4 with 267 viewsMrTown

Sadiq Kahn on 15:40 - Jun 4 by unbelievablue

We do, and we are (see previous post).

There just aren't enough police to do so effectively.


We’ll see seems the best response to that.

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Sadiq Kahn on 15:52 - Jun 4 with 248 viewsMrTown

Sadiq Kahn on 15:42 - Jun 4 by SpruceMoose

I'm sure if there was one murder the family of that victim would be upset. That's not how we judge danger though. The fact that you don't like being in some areas of London is a matter of your perception. Thousands of people live happily in those areas.

You're arguing that London has become more dangerous under Khan, and that is his fault. The point is London wasn't dangerous before Khan, it isn't dangerous now, and it won't be dangerous when he leaves office.

By the way, Bill de Blasio is truly awful. But not for any of the reasons Trump thinks he is.
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In your opinion of course.

danger is not through just the number of homicides I may add. The rates of which crime has risen under Mr. Kahn throughout his tenure is scary, that is my point, a rise crime clearly leads to a rise is danger. As the mayor of the City they certainly will be one of forefront to take a portion of the blame whilst other culprits will I’m sure.
But that’s just my opinion, of course.

In terms of Blasio, don’t know him, don’t know any other comments Trump has made about him, don’t care about him. Not my problem as they would say.

As I did state though, don’t ever suggest I’m a Trump supporter, fanboy, his racial views are absolutely appalling.




Over and out.
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Sadiq Kahn on 15:42 - Jun 4 by jaykay

that bridge only cost us 53 and a half million quid


But the contracting and 'interesting deals involved would be worth looking at?
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