| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. 16:17 - Mar 29 with 5076 views | Lord_Lucan |
Apologies if it's been done to death but I haven't looked and I've started now so I'll do a Magnus Magnuson (sp)
I thin k it is nailed on that Mick Mack is a genuinely nice guy, has a bit of a brain, is polite and fiercely protective of his staff from tea lady to players.
Have to say though I think he comes across when interviewed as just a slight bit of a dick and a man that can't accept that he may have made an error or two along the way. I also accept that the players probably like him but I know that some of them feel very frustrated with his directives.
If Viz ever wanted a Yorkshire man as a character they need to look no further than Mick McCarthy. |  |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:19 - Mar 29 with 4029 views | BackToRussia |
"Can't help himself" comes to mind. |  |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:21 - Mar 29 with 4009 views | FinidiCentenary |
I don't think there is any doubt that Mick is a decent guy but he is too defensive and too eager to present himself as impenetrable.
He makes out like nothing we say gets to him, then lashes out.
He says if the fans want to say something say it to my face, then walks to the middle of the pitch after a defeat and walks off as far away from the stands as possible after as many people have gone as possible.
He doesn't like to accept criticism or accept he is wrong.
But perhaps some of these traits are why he's been a decent manager. Who knows. [Post edited 29 Mar 2018 16:26]
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:24 - Mar 29 with 3959 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:21 - Mar 29 by FinidiCentenary |
I don't think there is any doubt that Mick is a decent guy but he is too defensive and too eager to present himself as impenetrable.
He makes out like nothing we say gets to him, then lashes out.
He says if the fans want to say something say it to my face, then walks to the middle of the pitch after a defeat and walks off as far away from the stands as possible after as many people have gone as possible.
He doesn't like to accept criticism or accept he is wrong.
But perhaps some of these traits are why he's been a decent manager. Who knows. [Post edited 29 Mar 2018 16:26]
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There is a case that he has used players to form an us and them situation whereas it has never been about the players.
That has rankled me a bit.
And then to also say that he thought the Super Mick chants were stupid. (can't remember his actual term) [Post edited 29 Mar 2018 16:25]
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:31 - Mar 29 with 3855 views | artsbossbeard |
Bearing in mind a) We've not had a manager who united the fanbase since the latter days of Robson and b) the choice of a new man is with ME, the numbskulls may just have another easy target next season. Probably a less thicker skinned fall guy this time though.
I'm hoping for free flowing, masterclass footy. I'm expecting much the same as now though.
I might just irrationally turn on the new bloke from day one by dissecting interviews and pull out anything negative whilst posting my hatred on here incessantly. It works for some. |  |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:34 - Mar 29 with 3815 views | textbackup |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:31 - Mar 29 by artsbossbeard |
Bearing in mind a) We've not had a manager who united the fanbase since the latter days of Robson and b) the choice of a new man is with ME, the numbskulls may just have another easy target next season. Probably a less thicker skinned fall guy this time though.
I'm hoping for free flowing, masterclass footy. I'm expecting much the same as now though.
I might just irrationally turn on the new bloke from day one by dissecting interviews and pull out anything negative whilst posting my hatred on here incessantly. It works for some. |
The sht MM came out with weeklybwas too easy to pick apart.
Thank fck he’s gone |  |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:36 - Mar 29 with 3775 views | artsbossbeard |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:34 - Mar 29 by textbackup |
The sht MM came out with weeklybwas too easy to pick apart.
Thank fck he’s gone |
You just wait for Phil Brown and his headset. | |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:37 - Mar 29 with 3758 views | chicoazul |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:31 - Mar 29 by artsbossbeard |
Bearing in mind a) We've not had a manager who united the fanbase since the latter days of Robson and b) the choice of a new man is with ME, the numbskulls may just have another easy target next season. Probably a less thicker skinned fall guy this time though.
I'm hoping for free flowing, masterclass footy. I'm expecting much the same as now though.
I might just irrationally turn on the new bloke from day one by dissecting interviews and pull out anything negative whilst posting my hatred on here incessantly. It works for some. |
Mick isnt thick skinned, he's the opposite. |  |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:38 - Mar 29 with 3753 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:34 - Mar 29 by textbackup |
The sht MM came out with weeklybwas too easy to pick apart.
Thank fck he’s gone |
You've got the ear of some players Texty, am I right about the frustration over the playing style? It's what I am told.
Anything you can share on here. | |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:39 - Mar 29 with 3740 views | tcblue |
I'd say that's true and I'd add that I think he's very much not the thick skinned person he wants to portray.
Interestingly, when I was watching the press conference there was a lot of times where it seemed to flit between 'nothing to do with the fans' and 'people got bored of me'.
The worst part of this, the continued refusal to accept or analyse what might have gone wrong (at least publicly) retains that bad blood, and it makes it very difficult to do what we ought to be doing - thanking him and wishing him well. | | | |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:40 - Mar 29 with 3731 views | Keaneish |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:31 - Mar 29 by artsbossbeard |
Bearing in mind a) We've not had a manager who united the fanbase since the latter days of Robson and b) the choice of a new man is with ME, the numbskulls may just have another easy target next season. Probably a less thicker skinned fall guy this time though.
I'm hoping for free flowing, masterclass footy. I'm expecting much the same as now though.
I might just irrationally turn on the new bloke from day one by dissecting interviews and pull out anything negative whilst posting my hatred on here incessantly. It works for some. |
Weren't the fan base united under Burley? |  |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:41 - Mar 29 with 3712 views | artsbossbeard |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:40 - Mar 29 by Keaneish |
Weren't the fan base united under Burley? |
Not when he went mad and lost the plot. | |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:43 - Mar 29 with 3689 views | Darth_Koont |
To me, he seems to focus on his job and the squad and doesn't care about anything or anyone else outside of that. Rightly or wrongly.
That may piss a few fans off but also probably why he builds such a strong spirit and togetherness among the squad. |  |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:46 - Mar 29 with 3668 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:39 - Mar 29 by tcblue |
I'd say that's true and I'd add that I think he's very much not the thick skinned person he wants to portray.
Interestingly, when I was watching the press conference there was a lot of times where it seemed to flit between 'nothing to do with the fans' and 'people got bored of me'.
The worst part of this, the continued refusal to accept or analyse what might have gone wrong (at least publicly) retains that bad blood, and it makes it very difficult to do what we ought to be doing - thanking him and wishing him well. |
Yes, I think you and Chico may be correct.
He keeps saying what a good job he has done and he has in a way but if he was to just say that he had done his best but it's time for another man to have a stab at it - and wish us the best of luck then it would be a better ending.
To harp on about what a great job he has done and call a section of the fans numbskulls is, as he would say, "Bonkers" | |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:47 - Mar 29 with 3653 views | Lightningboy |
Spot on Lord Lucan.
“I’m always right me” that seems to be MicCarthy’s motto/attitude.
..and why he’s only ever got so far in the game. |  | | |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:51 - Mar 29 with 3605 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:38 - Mar 29 by Lord_Lucan |
You've got the ear of some players Texty, am I right about the frustration over the playing style? It's what I am told.
Anything you can share on here. |
I've heard from a certain former full-back he wasn't allowed to take it forward or play a pass inside to the midfield, but to look forward and try and hit Murphy.... |  |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:52 - Mar 29 with 3594 views | dirtyboy |
Having watched that press conference, I think Mick would still have been here had he been given the guarantee he was going to be given the money to make us truly competitive.
He says it was mutual after a conversation and that's probably correct.
Our current squad are fiercely loyal to Mick, a lot of his ex-players have followed him over the years and I have no doubt we'll be losing a few good ones if he does pop up at another club.
The next manager here has to be nailed on, if it isn't the players will jump very quickly and I don't blame them. Mick is clearly very much appreciated by all at the club, so they big boots to fill, regardless of what we think. |  | | |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:54 - Mar 29 with 3581 views | Coco |
Spot on.
I keep flitting between sympathy and respect to shaking my head at his arrogance. He has little respect for the fans and is clearly desperate for us to fail when he is gone. |  |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:54 - Mar 29 with 3567 views | artsbossbeard |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:46 - Mar 29 by Lord_Lucan |
Yes, I think you and Chico may be correct.
He keeps saying what a good job he has done and he has in a way but if he was to just say that he had done his best but it's time for another man to have a stab at it - and wish us the best of luck then it would be a better ending.
To harp on about what a great job he has done and call a section of the fans numbskulls is, as he would say, "Bonkers" |
Numbskulls is easier on the tongue than "collection of tyre fitters, pipe laggers & wheelie bin cleaners who think that they know more about football than me" to be fair. | |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:54 - Mar 29 with 3575 views | tcblue |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:46 - Mar 29 by Lord_Lucan |
Yes, I think you and Chico may be correct.
He keeps saying what a good job he has done and he has in a way but if he was to just say that he had done his best but it's time for another man to have a stab at it - and wish us the best of luck then it would be a better ending.
To harp on about what a great job he has done and call a section of the fans numbskulls is, as he would say, "Bonkers" |
His emotional frailties (seems a harsh way to put it but I think there's truth there) have been becoming very obvious to me this season.
I dunno, to some extent there's value in shielding the players, if that's part of what he's been trying to do. But the refusal to accept that the entertainment factor was any part of the conversations is deeply troubling, and should we worry that it was Mick who had to call the summit meeting? | | | |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 17:03 - Mar 29 with 3530 views | SWGF |
Re: players' frustrations, I can't believe that the more technically able ones aren't hugely frustrated in being asked to play a more "simplistic" style. Also can't believe the forwards particularly enjoy feeding off scraps, chasing their own flick ons or having to sprint down the channels as the ball is slung towards the corner flag.
Will be intriguing to see if a different coach can get a different tune from the bulk of the same squad [Post edited 29 Mar 2018 17:04]
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 17:04 - Mar 29 with 3505 views | BackToRussia |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 17:03 - Mar 29 by SWGF |
Re: players' frustrations, I can't believe that the more technically able ones aren't hugely frustrated in being asked to play a more "simplistic" style. Also can't believe the forwards particularly enjoy feeding off scraps, chasing their own flick ons or having to sprint down the channels as the ball is slung towards the corner flag.
Will be intriguing to see if a different coach can get a different tune from the bulk of the same squad [Post edited 29 Mar 2018 17:04]
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Basically, it's no fun being sh1t. | |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 17:06 - Mar 29 with 3491 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:54 - Mar 29 by tcblue |
His emotional frailties (seems a harsh way to put it but I think there's truth there) have been becoming very obvious to me this season.
I dunno, to some extent there's value in shielding the players, if that's part of what he's been trying to do. But the refusal to accept that the entertainment factor was any part of the conversations is deeply troubling, and should we worry that it was Mick who had to call the summit meeting? |
If Mick called the meeting, it was probably because he wanted to know one way or the other - ME had said the announcement would be made well before the Early Bird deadline, so Mick thought he may as well sort it out now. | |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 17:11 - Mar 29 with 3472 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:54 - Mar 29 by Coco |
Spot on.
I keep flitting between sympathy and respect to shaking my head at his arrogance. He has little respect for the fans and is clearly desperate for us to fail when he is gone. |
Exactly the same way I felt, same same.
Depressingly I reckon he would throw a party if we were relegated. | |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 17:25 - Mar 29 with 3415 views | textbackup |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:38 - Mar 29 by Lord_Lucan |
You've got the ear of some players Texty, am I right about the frustration over the playing style? It's what I am told.
Anything you can share on here. |
‘Had’ the ear, they’ve since moved on!
However the ones you chat with on the odd occasion in town etc, they don’t have to say it to make it obvious that many of them don’t like what MM has them doing.
I fully expect to see Bishop (if fit) become a key player in the team.
Also be nice to see Downes back after TC made his time here this season pretty uncomfortable. Did I just say that out loud?! | |
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| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 17:29 - Mar 29 with 3377 views | keighleyblue |
| Mmmm. Just watched the presser. on 16:47 - Mar 29 by Lightningboy |
Spot on Lord Lucan.
“I’m always right me” that seems to be MicCarthy’s motto/attitude.
..and why he’s only ever got so far in the game. |
what, like a World Cup manager. |  | | |
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