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Pert No Fan of 13-Minute Injury Time
Tuesday, 8th Aug 2023 12:19

Blues assistant manager Martyn Pert isn’t a fan of the lengthy stoppage time which the authorities are adding to games with Town’s match at Sunderland on Sunday going on for almost another quarter of an hour.

Officials are being instructed to add on World Cup-style levels of time for injuries, goal celebrations and other stoppages as well as clamping down on time-wasting and dissent.

This led to the fourth official’s board showing 13 minutes at the end of the 90 at the Stadium of Light but with the actual time played stretching on beyond even that.

“I don’t really like it, if I’m honest,” Pert admitted. “When it came up 13, I was shocked. I was expecting it to be long because we had the injury to Janoi [Donacien] and you expect there to be some, and they’d already come in and told us that they’re going to add on every single second that they could.

“But 13, from the players’ perspective, we certainly haven’t thought about that in terms of training.

“You’re really adding games onto the players throughout the season if the games are going to be 10, 13 minutes longer. There was actually near enough 14 and a half minutes, I think, by my watch on Sunday. I don’t think it’s probably the right thing, to be honest.”



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Blue_In_Boston added 12:28 - Aug 8
I'm sure that the added time will gradually decline, probably because it will sink into players that it will all get added on. Lets face it, the modern term 'game management' incorporates a big element of time wasting in disrupting momentum - we were on the wrong end of it plenty of times last season.
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chepstowblue added 12:43 - Aug 8
It's long overdue. The game is predominantly full of cheats who for decades have exploited the gullibility of authorities and officials. I'm staggered it's taken until 2023 to implement the bleeding obvious. Goal celebrations go on for nigh on two minutes but thirty seconds get added on. The people who suffer most are the paying public, who get short changed on a weekly basis. Mogga was right on Sunday. We did our very best to ass about at every opportunity. I'd have been livid had we conceded late on as it would have been all of our own making. Due to either the shoddy game management or the quite blatant time wasting. I dont want to see that of us.
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BlueRaider added 13:16 - Aug 8
I'm all for it too after the antics of many teams over the last few years. It just needs refining in my view so that the clock stops, and so the game finishes at 90 minutes. Everyone will know the time left then, and players will be able to see when its stopped and that their timewasting is doing nothing.
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Radlett_blue added 13:16 - Aug 8
Most of the additional time is resulting from officials having been instructed to add on the exact amount of time lost from goal celebrations, substitutions etc rather than the old rule of 1 minute for a goal & 30 seconds for a sub. I don't think players are going to shorten their celebrations or jog off the pitch when subbed so these huge additions look here to stay.
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Europablue added 13:24 - Aug 8
chepstowblue, it's good that something is being done about it, but this is not the way to go about it. I'd prefer to see more yellow cards for time-wasting and fines for clubs that waste too much time in a match.
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IpswichT62OldBoy added 13:38 - Aug 8
There was a time when no one but the ref knew what was going to be added, we now get an indication but it's already formulated. As a matter of interest, is it the ref who tells the 4th official or does the 4th official keep the time?

I suspect a visible clock, as used in Rugby, will become the norm.
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Orraman added 13:40 - Aug 8
Players and managers have become very adept over the past few years at the art of cheating. How many times last season did we see time wasting starting as early as the tenth minute? Players have brought these new rules upon themselves and even at Ipswich we are not squeaky clean. Vaz got a yellow card for time wasting on Sunday and when Chaplin scores he is always the very last to return to his position for the restart.
Players and managers will learn through yellow cards and late goals conceded during lengthy add-ons that their time wasting, cheating and ridiculous goal celebrations are counter productive. We never saw Mariner, Gates and Co hugging, kissing and dancing around back in the day, nor did we see other teams do it.
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Rozeeboy74 added 14:28 - Aug 8
It's a double edged sword. I'm sure Sunderland were keen to get every second out of the game. We will score our fair share of goals in the 90+ minutes.
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BlueandTruesince82 added 14:56 - Aug 8
If you don't want the game to drag done waste time. Simple
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OxtonBlue added 15:04 - Aug 8
I can't understand why they don't try and have the equivalent of a basketball stop clock and agree a time, whether that be 60,70 mins when the ball is typically jn play during an "average" match and just stop the clock when the ball goes out or is not "in play"
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Portman51 added 15:37 - Aug 8
Pert says "We haven't thought about it (added time) in terms of training." Why do they need to? Players are only standing around or having a drink during stoppages, not racing around at 90mph. A rugby-style clock managed
by an independent timekeeper, which stops during hold ups and runs to 90 minutes, is the obvious way to deal with this issue. At least then we would all know what's going on.
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Steve_ITFC_Sweden added 17:39 - Aug 8
Simples. Rather than stopping the clock à la rugby, just dish out yellow cards immediately for time wasting. If a player knew he (or indeed she) was likely to get booked a second time, they would be unlikely to repeat the offence.
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Cadiar added 19:09 - Aug 8
We were on the wrong end of it so many times last season. Hopefully the new rules will stop it. I'm more concerned with the way players argue with officials, you just don't see it in rugby & the players show far greater respect.
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Cadiar added 19:09 - Aug 8
We were on the wrong end of it so many times last season. Hopefully the new rules will stop it. I'm more concerned with the way players argue with officials, you just don't see it in rugby & the players show far greater respect.
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Karlosfandangal added 20:41 - Aug 8
Hlakey got a yellow for time wasting so he must had in the back of his mind that any more time wasting and he would be off

But the time he wasted was then add on so a yellow for no reason….. the only reason would be to stop the momentum of the other side
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grow_our_own added 22:56 - Aug 8
Agree with all the comments that transparency is needed, per rugby. This extended added time is ripe for abuse. Just show the clock stopping so everyone knows and get rid of fricking added time!
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Jugsy added 16:07 - Aug 9
Agree with the more transparency. I'm sure I could google to find out, but who's overseeing this process? Seems a lot to put onto the ref. For example, Hladky was timewasting, how does that get added on? He checks his watch to see the time, realises he's wasting time so books him and then allocated 15 seconds to the pot? Can't be the way it's done.

Using something like stop clock like they do in rugby would be good but would only work for injuries, subs and bookings. Actually on-pitch timewasting has a retrospective element which gets complicated. Again... I should google this...
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grow_our_own added 19:57 - Aug 9
"would only work for injuries, subs and bookings" - nah, just give them x seconds to take a kickthrow. If they take longer, the clock stops. If they take it quicker than the x second threshold, the clock never stops.
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