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So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living 10:25 - Oct 12 with 1720 views

Then this: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/oct/12/half-a-billion-cheap-electri

Even if they only cost a couple of quid each, that's a billion which could have been spent on improving the country, rather than cheap tat to be thrown away (and which costs money to dispose of).

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So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:27 - Oct 12 with 1695 views

BlueBadger

Disposable vapes are an absolute menace. I suspect that in the next ten years we'll starting to see studies emerge around the long term harms(for my money, the conclusion will likely be 'not good for you, but better for you thank actually smoking').

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So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:32 - Oct 12 with 1663 views

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So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:27 - Oct 12 by BlueBadger
Disposable vapes are an absolute menace. I suspect that in the next ten years we'll starting to see studies emerge around the long term harms(for my money, the conclusion will likely be 'not good for you, but better for you thank actually smoking').

Shouldn't think disposable-type vapes will be around much longer. Banned over the littering aspect (at least cigarettes were made of mostly organic material).

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So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:35 - Oct 12 with 1649 views

BlueBadger

So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:32 - Oct 12 by Guthrum
Shouldn't think disposable-type vapes will be around much longer. Banned over the littering aspect (at least cigarettes were made of mostly organic material).

An outright ban on disposables would probably go a long way to solving the problem of kids vaping as well as littering.

Equally, I wouldn't;'t be surprised to see stricter controls on all the weird flavours' of vape that you can get as well.
As a by-the-by, is it just me or is the smell from some of the more wild and wacky vapes WORSE than cigarette smoke?

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So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:36 - Oct 12 with 1644 views

SuperKieranMcKenna

“Half a billion cheap electrical items go to UK landfills”

If we didn’t buy poorly made items you didn’t know you needed, from Chinese brands you’ve never heard of, then how would Amazon survive…

So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:37 - Oct 12 with 1648 views

BlueBadger

So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:36 - Oct 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna
“Half a billion cheap electrical items go to UK landfills” If we didn’t buy poorly made items you didn’t know you needed, from Chinese brands you’ve never heard of, then how would Amazon survive…

At this point, I would like to remind you of the Vimes Theory of Economic Unfairness(also known as 'boots theory').

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So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:42 - Oct 12 with 1615 views

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So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:35 - Oct 12 by BlueBadger
An outright ban on disposables would probably go a long way to solving the problem of kids vaping as well as littering. Equally, I wouldn't;'t be surprised to see stricter controls on all the weird flavours' of vape that you can get as well. As a by-the-by, is it just me or is the smell from some of the more wild and wacky vapes WORSE than cigarette smoke? [Post edited 12 Oct 2023 11:06]

Surprised you can smell anything given you've been working in a carbolic-rich environment for so long! ;-)

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So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:50 - Oct 12 with 1592 views

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So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:35 - Oct 12 by BlueBadger
An outright ban on disposables would probably go a long way to solving the problem of kids vaping as well as littering. Equally, I wouldn't;'t be surprised to see stricter controls on all the weird flavours' of vape that you can get as well. As a by-the-by, is it just me or is the smell from some of the more wild and wacky vapes WORSE than cigarette smoke? [Post edited 12 Oct 2023 11:06]

A lot of the US states have banned any flavours other than tobacco - they must be considering it here.

I do youth work and we are seeing a huge increase in school years 7 and 8 vaping. It just doesn't have the stigma that traditional smoking has and isn't getting the attention from anyone that can help. We've tracked where they're buying them and they just walk into a vape shop with zero checks. We've had the community police come with us to lecture the owners, but they don't care, they know they don't face any real sanctions as it's too much hassle.

Interestingly, the ones that are talking it seriously are the Criminal Exploitation Team. The younger ones that are vaping are being targeted by the skunk dealers who in turn have links to the county lines gangs.

Take away the bubblegum and it becomes a lot less attractive to under 16s.

So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:59 - Oct 12 with 1554 views

Swansea_Blue

I've finally been getting round to sorting out the stuff I cleared from my dad's house, and having a bit of a tidy up ourselves. It feels like I've contributed half a billion items myself! Cables, leads and chargers are a big problem. Everything seems to come with it's own set, but if we had universal standards we could cut out a huge amount of duplication and waste.

Also, ironically, I wonder if making recycling easier actually increases the amount people throw away? It's so easy to drop things off at the tip and feel like you're being 'responsible'. Whereas actually you're contributing to the costs of handling and treating all this waste.

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So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 17:11 - Oct 14 with 1215 views

rgp1

So people demand low tax and complain about the cost of living on 10:32 - Oct 12 by Guthrum
Shouldn't think disposable-type vapes will be around much longer. Banned over the littering aspect (at least cigarettes were made of mostly organic material).

Assuming you can class a disposable vape as a single use plastic and there is much concern over these and other things such as plastic forks. Then why is it that organisations such as just stop oil ( bering in mind that plastic is a byproduct of petroleum production) do lambast the owners of plastic companies ?

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