| Best UK PM since 1970 18:22 - Sep 27 with 11598 views | BergholtBru |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 18:26 - Sep 27 with 6356 views | Blue_Order |
Paul Mariner. |  | | |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 19:16 - Sep 27 with 6283 views | blue_oyster |
What a great poll.
Next week: What's your favourite disease? |  |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 19:17 - Sep 27 with 6279 views | SpruceMoose |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 19:16 - Sep 27 by blue_oyster |
What a great poll.
Next week: What's your favourite disease? |
I read that as cheese initially and got excited. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 19:19 - Sep 27 with 6273 views | DanTheMan |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 19:17 - Sep 27 by SpruceMoose |
I read that as cheese initially and got excited. |
What's your favourite cheese? |  |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 19:19 - Sep 27 with 6268 views | SpruceMoose |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 19:19 - Sep 27 by DanTheMan |
What's your favourite cheese? |
Scurvy. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 19:21 - Sep 27 with 6261 views | DanTheMan |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 19:19 - Sep 27 by SpruceMoose |
Scurvy. |
Me too, thanks. | |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 01:30 - Sep 28 with 6064 views | The_Last_Baron |
Thatcher by a mile. |  |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 03:37 - Sep 28 with 6037 views | Currie10 |
Mighty Morphine Major Ranger ! ( Harry Enfield )
Serious note, crikey what a question..........
100% not war criminal and ' for the people despite having many a house ' Blair. Absolutely detest that ' man '. |  | | |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 08:02 - Sep 28 with 5979 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
100% evidence of the failure of democracy.......I think Major came out on top amongst the board last time! |  |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 08:39 - Sep 28 with 5939 views | BergholtBru |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 08:02 - Sep 28 by BanksterDebtSlave |
100% evidence of the failure of democracy.......I think Major came out on top amongst the board last time! |
What would you have in it`s place? | |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 08:52 - Sep 28 with 5917 views | uefacup81 |
Major - by a country mile.
Can't seem to see the poll though... [Post edited 28 Sep 2017 8:54]
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 09:09 - Sep 28 with 5895 views | connorscontract |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 08:52 - Sep 28 by uefacup81 |
Major - by a country mile.
Can't seem to see the poll though... [Post edited 28 Sep 2017 8:54]
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Major, for the Northern Ireland Peace Process.
Pre 9/11 and the Iraq madness, Blair would have had it in the bag.
But every amputee ex-service man or woman from that war is a visible icon of his legacy. We don't get to see many pictures of orphaned Iraqi children any more: the news agenda has moved on. |  | | |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:03 - Sep 28 with 5856 views | blue_oyster |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 09:09 - Sep 28 by connorscontract |
Major, for the Northern Ireland Peace Process.
Pre 9/11 and the Iraq madness, Blair would have had it in the bag.
But every amputee ex-service man or woman from that war is a visible icon of his legacy. We don't get to see many pictures of orphaned Iraqi children any more: the news agenda has moved on. |
Why are people proud of our surrender to the IRA? | |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:19 - Sep 28 with 5841 views | WeWereZombies |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:03 - Sep 28 by blue_oyster |
Why are people proud of our surrender to the IRA? |
Because it wasn't a surrender? The key is in the word 'process' and as far as I can see it is still going on...just. Thatcher had people talking to Sinn Fein so you might as well include her in your condemnation. However, what she was doing appears to have been ineffectual and Major seems to more or less have swept it aside and replaced it with something that worked, Martin McGuinness being a key element to his strategy. And then, for a few people in the Republic that I know, Blair rode in on his white horse and got all the credit. All of this underplays the role of Senator George Mitchell of course. |  |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:26 - Sep 28 with 5829 views | TJS |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:03 - Sep 28 by blue_oyster |
Why are people proud of our surrender to the IRA? |
I don't think we have 'surrendered' to the IRA.
I think it was a victory for common sense in a conflict that could have dragged on forever and had largely ruined the place.
NI is still part of the UK albeit with a devolved assembly and Dublin has given up its claim to the North. |  | | |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:35 - Sep 28 with 5811 views | blue_oyster |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:19 - Sep 28 by WeWereZombies |
Because it wasn't a surrender? The key is in the word 'process' and as far as I can see it is still going on...just. Thatcher had people talking to Sinn Fein so you might as well include her in your condemnation. However, what she was doing appears to have been ineffectual and Major seems to more or less have swept it aside and replaced it with something that worked, Martin McGuinness being a key element to his strategy. And then, for a few people in the Republic that I know, Blair rode in on his white horse and got all the credit. All of this underplays the role of Senator George Mitchell of course. |
You've hit the the nail on the head. It is indeed the word 'process' that fools people into thinking that it was anything but a surrender. But when only one side concedes, it's surrender. | |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:38 - Sep 28 with 5803 views | WeWereZombies |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 08:39 - Sep 28 by BergholtBru |
What would you have in it`s place? |
Serious question to both you and Bankster - the Kurds in Iraq have just voted 92% (in a 73% turnout) for secession in a non-binding referendum but the UN, US, Turkey and most other nations did not want the poll to happen - so is it democratic?
Edit: doh, forgot to post the link I had ready if you need a 'catch-up' on this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-41419633 [Post edited 28 Sep 2017 10:44]
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:42 - Sep 28 with 5789 views | WeWereZombies |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:35 - Sep 28 by blue_oyster |
You've hit the the nail on the head. It is indeed the word 'process' that fools people into thinking that it was anything but a surrender. But when only one side concedes, it's surrender. |
With the DUP having a decisive role in UK politics and, I was in Northern Ireland last month and saw them, the union flags flying en masse alongside UVF flags I don't think you can say one side has conceded. | |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:42 - Sep 28 with 5786 views | m14_blue |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:35 - Sep 28 by blue_oyster |
You've hit the the nail on the head. It is indeed the word 'process' that fools people into thinking that it was anything but a surrender. But when only one side concedes, it's surrender. |
There isn't a united Ireland though is there?
Seems to me that it was more a compromise than a surrender. I can see why that would still leave a bitter taste to many but surely the resultant (relative) peace is worth swallowing some pride for? | | | |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 13:31 - Sep 28 with 5709 views | blue_oyster |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:42 - Sep 28 by m14_blue |
There isn't a united Ireland though is there?
Seems to me that it was more a compromise than a surrender. I can see why that would still leave a bitter taste to many but surely the resultant (relative) peace is worth swallowing some pride for? |
Peace is indeed the result of one side surrendering to the other. A united Ireland is well on its way. | |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 13:36 - Sep 28 with 5696 views | SpruceMoose |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 13:31 - Sep 28 by blue_oyster |
Peace is indeed the result of one side surrendering to the other. A united Ireland is well on its way. |
Thanks to Brexit... | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 14:43 - Sep 28 with 5659 views | stickymockwell |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 01:30 - Sep 28 by The_Last_Baron |
Thatcher by a mile. |
I prefer Typhoid or meningitis |  |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 14:49 - Sep 28 with 5635 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Best UK PM since 1970 on 10:03 - Sep 28 by blue_oyster |
Why are people proud of our surrender to the IRA? |
It wasn't a surrender to the IRA. Quite the opposite in fact. The IRA were defeated militarily. They had been infiltrated by the security services so deeply that all trust between the provos had broken down. They couldn't function because they distrusted each other so much, fearing that their comrades in arms were informants for the security services.
History, however, has been re written by the defeated and those who offered them support when they were carrying out their murderous campaign. |  |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 15:39 - Sep 28 with 5596 views | Superfrans |
Blair.
Followed by Brown. |  |
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| Best UK PM since 1970 on 15:43 - Sep 28 with 5586 views | No9 |
There has only been one decent PM since 1970= Harold Wilson | | | |
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